The Bus Stop Farce

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2020, 03:27:10 AM »
Set aside the description of color for a minute.

And why would you want to set aside such a crucial part of the description?

Virginia Davis and Barbara Davis saw the same man cut across their front yard.  They stood beside each other and watched this guy flee the scene.  Virginia stated the jacket that he was wearing was light colored. Barbara said it was dark.  They were referring to the same jacket.

Are you seriously asking why we'd set aside description of color for a minute?

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2020, 03:28:55 AM »
Mrs. Roberts' affidavit:

I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a dark color and it was the type that zips up the front. He was zipping the jacket up as he left.

Note the details: dark coloured - zipper type - zipping it as Oswald left.

Being half blind does not make her half-witted.

Bingo.  We have a winner.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2020, 01:26:12 PM »
Virginia Davis and Barbara Davis saw the same man cut across their front yard.  They stood beside each other and watched this guy flee the scene.  Virginia stated the jacket that he was wearing was light colored. Barbara said it was dark.  They were referring to the same jacket.

Are you seriously asking why we'd set aside description of color for a minute?

Yes I am, as it goes to the credibility of the witness as it demonstrates just how bad most people are at sound observation. The Davis sisters only saw the killer passing by for a second or two. Not enough for them to register the color of his jacket, yet we are to believe they registered his face well enough to pick him out of a line up. Really?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2020, 01:28:02 PM »
Bingo.  We have a winner.

Cherry picking a little piece out of the evidence and ignoring the bigger picture isn't very persuasive.

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2020, 05:14:42 PM »
Yes I am, as it goes to the credibility of the witness as it demonstrates just how bad most people are at sound observation. The Davis sisters only saw the killer passing by for a second or two. Not enough for them to register the color of his jacket, yet we are to believe they registered his face well enough to pick him out of a line up. Really?

Most people can't take in everything at once. But clothing wouldn't exactly be top priority in a scene with shots fired and a guy with a gun walking by.
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« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2020, 06:50:37 PM »
Most people can't take in everything at once. But clothing wouldn't exactly be top priority in a scene with shots fired and a guy with a gun walking by.

Yet they still described the jacket instead of saying they didn't get a good look... Go figure

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2020, 08:36:23 PM »


When you falsely claim that John Iacoletti has denied that Oswald had a revolver, yes you do have to show that.

Officer McDonald provided evidence of Oswald pulling his gun out. Witness testimony is evidence.

Yes, yes... we all know what McDonald said. And we also know that Fritz wrote in his notes that Oswald admitted that he carried a revolver. But which revolver, that's the question

Dishonest John I. has denied that Oswald had a gun when arrested.  "Except he wasn't carrying a gun when he was arrested.  And how do you know those shells were even found at the crime scene?"

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