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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #592 on: December 02, 2021, 03:43:12 PM »
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It seems Oswald was good with kids. Whenever he was in Irving he was always playing with them.

So silly.  Playing with kids means what exactly in this context?  Did anyone ever suggest Oswald didn't like kids?  Wow.  Hilarious that you are so desperate to play the contrarian on everything.  Even when it goes against your own claim that someone other than Oswald or Marina wrote "hunter of fascists" on the BY photos.  The point being discussed was that there is no evidence of Oswald displaying any type of self-deprecating humor such as contained in that sentiment.   He certainly would not do so on the BY photos which depict him holding weapons and displaying Commie literature just before trying to kill General Walker.  I'm agreeing with you that Oswald did not write that notation on the BY photo.  Given that it is written in Russian that substantially narrows the list of possibilities in Dallas to Marina or DeM.   The sentiment sounds much more like that of Marina who found Oswald's behavior to be absurd.  And it was traced over pencil which is consistent with how Marina apparently wrote on her own personal photos.
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #593 on: December 02, 2021, 03:45:25 PM »
You are reading what other people have written about him. When people are negative against an individual they are going to write negative things.

So, you never met the man personally which is why you can't speculate using absolute statements.   

I've known several people who felt uncomfortable around a certain group of people and acted serious. When they were in their own environment and loosened up their demeanor and personality completely changed. They were joking, enjoying themselves, and were having a good time.     

I don't know how credible George DeMorenschildt is but his book on Oswald humanizes and shows his complexity more than most other books.

I'm still undecided on what role Oswald played in JFK's assassination (co-conspirator or patsy?) but I'm unconvinced that he was just a deranged madman.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #594 on: December 02, 2021, 03:57:19 PM »

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"JFK Revisited" Misleads on Guy Banister
« Reply #595 on: December 02, 2021, 04:07:10 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-revisited-misleads-on-guy-banister

Oliver Stone's so-called documentary is extremely misleading on the relationship between Guy Banister and Lee Harvey Oswald. The film claims that Banister gave Oswald an office at 544 Camp Street. The evidence does not support the allegation.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #596 on: December 02, 2021, 04:28:55 PM »
So you can't come up with a single example of Oswald having any sense of humor.  Got it.  What point are you trying to make?  That Oswald wrote "Hunter of Fascists, HA HA HA" in Russian on the DeM BY photo as a joke on himself?  Do you think he thought of himself as being humorous in that photo?  My point was that the sentiment is more aligned with Marina's view of his erratic behavior.  Thus, she likely wrote.  Why don't you stick with your endless political rants and leave the discussion of the JFK case to others?

My point was that the sentiment is more aligned with Marina's view of his erratic behavior.  Thus, she likely wrote.

Your point is, as usual, nothing more than selfserving speculation for which there is not a shred of evidence. Marina did not write on the back of the DeMohrenschildt BY photo. If she had we would have known it by now.

and leave the discussion of the JFK case to others?

Perhaps you should follow your own advise..


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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #597 on: December 02, 2021, 04:34:42 PM »
So silly.  Playing with kids means what exactly in this context?  Did anyone ever suggest Oswald didn't like kids?  Wow.  Hilarious that you are so desperate to play the contrarian on everything.  Even when it goes against your own claim that someone other than Oswald or Marina wrote "hunter of fascists" on the BY photos.  The point being discussed was that there is no evidence of Oswald displaying any type of self-deprecating humor such as contained in that sentiment.   He certainly would not do so on the BY photos which depict him holding weapons and displaying Commie literature just before trying to kill General Walker.  I'm agreeing with you that Oswald did not write that notation on the BY photo.  Given that it is written in Russian that substantially narrows the list of possibilities in Dallas to Marina or DeM.   The sentiment sounds much more like that of Marina who found Oswald's behavior to be absurd.  And it was traced over pencil which is consistent with how Marina apparently wrote on her own personal photos.

I'm agreeing with you that Oswald did not write that notation on the BY photo.

Of course you agree. You have no other option. Even a nearly blind person can see that the handwriting is completely different from what is supposed to be Oswald's handwriting.

Given that it is written in Russian that substantially narrows the list of possibilities in Dallas to Marina or DeM. The sentiment sounds much more like that of Marina who found Oswald's behavior to be absurd.

And on and on the selfserving speculation goes on.... Again, there is not a shred of evidence to show that Marina wrote that text.

And it was traced over pencil

Which actually means that anybody could have written the ink version

which is consistent with how Marina apparently wrote on her own personal photos.

Apparently? Really... back to making assumptions again that you can not prove?
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #599 on: December 02, 2021, 04:40:36 PM »
I'm agreeing with you that Oswald did not write that notation on the BY photo.

Of course you agree. You have no other option. Even a nearly blind person can see that the handwriting is completely different from what is supposed to be Oswald's handwriting.

Given that it is written in Russian that substantially narrows the list of possibilities in Dallas to Marina or DeM.   The sentiment sounds much more like that of Marina who found Oswald's behavior to be abb]surd. [/

And on and on the selfserving speculation goes on....

And it was traced over pencil

Which actually means that anybody could have written the ink version

which is consistent with how Marina apparently wrote on her own personal photos.

Apparently? Really... back to making assumptions again that you can not prove?

Instead of playing the endless contrarian how about you provide us with some explanation of how a note written in Russian is on this BY photo?  How many people, for example, who had access to this picture in Dallas could write in Russian?  That can't be a long list.  If it wasn't Marina, then who do you believe are the suspects and why did they write it?  It's not clear what you are even suggesting.  You appear to accept the photo is genuine.  Oswald himself signed and inscribed it to DeM.  So tell us what point you are trying to make here.

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