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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #416 on: November 21, 2021, 12:36:35 PM »
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Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?

She didn't give a crap about guns, in fact called them something like 'man toys' She was always putting Oswald down, such as his musing about becoming an ambassador, or something. She laughed at this macho back-yard boy thing as well.

As for any inconsistency in testifying generally, I recall something about her referring to the fact that he was her husband; that the first thing one does is protect one's spouse.

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #417 on: November 21, 2021, 05:10:36 PM »
Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?

So you are questioning that they are authentic?  I thought you just said they were genuine and you were only questioning whether they depict the same MC rifle found on the 6th floor.   Again, she didn't forget that she took them.  She has always been consistent on that fact.  Only in the pedantic world or CTers in which someone can't remember the exact day and number of such photos that she took has she ever been hazy.  She seemed dismissive of Oswald's nutty behavior while they were married.  Taking a few pictures of him pretending to be some type of revolutionary figure must have struck her as humorous.  It only becomes a notable event many months later.  In hindsight it is easy to say that she should have committed every detail to memory but she had no cause to do so at the time.  That doesn't cast doubt on the authenticity of the photos.  She confirms that she took them. 

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JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
« Reply #418 on: November 21, 2021, 06:37:30 PM »
JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
Oliver Stone's so-called documentary includes a video clip of John Connally seemingly disputing the single bullet theory. Oliver Stone doesn't tell you the whole truth about John Connally.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-revisited-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-truth-about-john-connally

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JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #419 on: November 21, 2021, 10:19:04 PM »
Most likely she wanted to distance herself from any involvement with Lee so she played dumb. People do this all the time.

It's possible but doesn't explain her inconsistent testimony once she finally admitted to taking the photos. 

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #420 on: November 21, 2021, 10:19:42 PM »
Brokaw specifically mentions ballistics tests.
In her denial, Marina specifically mentions ballistics tests.

Not sure what you're seeing.

Yeah, Fred is reaching with this one...

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #421 on: November 21, 2021, 10:24:09 PM »
So you are questioning that they are authentic?

No. I accept the authenticity of the photos.

Given her inconsistent testimony on the photos, I question if she was the person who actually took them. You don't need a great memory if you tell the truth...

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Re: JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
« Reply #422 on: November 21, 2021, 10:39:24 PM »
It's explained in the documentary that the FBI originally concluded that none of the three shots missed. The Single-bullet theory came later during the Warren Commission investigation.

Connally disagreed with the SBT. He didn't believe that he and Kennedy were struck by the same bullet. The film doesn't mislead on his testimony at all.

The SBT only became necessary once investigators concluded that one of the shots had to have completely missed the limo. If the first shot missed then all the wounds had to have been caused by two, not three bullets. 

I think there are some LN researchers who still believe that none of the shots missed the limo. So it remains contested even on the LN side.
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #423 on: November 21, 2021, 10:41:50 PM »
As I've posted in another thread, the Oswald Backyard photos went under rigorous forensic photo analysis just a few years ago and every photo was proven to be 100% authentic with absolutely no forgery. Forged photos from the 60's would be easy to identify, unlike from today, with the best computer technology that can alter photos making it more difficult to ascertain if they are indeed legitimate. Obviously Marina had to take them because Oswald wasn't really close to other people who would have taken them for him.     

At no point in the film does anyone suggest that the photos are faked.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #423 on: November 21, 2021, 10:41:50 PM »