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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #882 on: February 09, 2022, 02:30:53 PM »
Hugh Aynesworth on the Garrison Investigation
Part one of a five party series of the farce in New Orleans. This series appeared in the Pittsburgh Press in February 1969.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/hugh-aynesworth-on-the-garrison-investigation

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #883 on: February 09, 2022, 07:42:55 PM »
Hugh Aynesworth on the Garrison Investigation
Part one of a five party series of the farce in New Orleans. This series appeared in the Pittsburgh Press in February 1969.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/hugh-aynesworth-on-the-garrison-investigation
Garrison's general view on the assassination - that the national security state of the US that emerged after WWII due to the actions by Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union killed JFK because he threatened their power and status - still holds sway among a group of people including Oliver Stone. Who, in case it's not known, made a famous, widely shown movie promoting Garrison's claims about the murder of JFK.

If none of this happened, if Stone et al. weren't still to this day promoting Garrison's nonsense, you likely wouldn't be writing about it. And we wouldn't be talking about it much if at all.

The problem is not with you; the problem is some people still believe and promote these falsehoods. And I find it both interesting and revealing that the people who are angry with you aren't angry with Garrison and Stone. They are the ones discrediting the conspiracy view not you.

If you're a conspiracy believer or think the lone assassin explanation is wrong (the two aren't the same) you should be furious with what Stone and DiEugenio are doing. They make your side look quite foolish.
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Online W. Tracy Parnell

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #884 on: February 09, 2022, 08:19:36 PM »
Garrison's general view on the assassination - that the national security state of the US that emerged after WWII due to the actions by Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union - killed JFK because he threatened their power and status - still holds sway among a group of people including Oliver Stone. Who, in case it's not known, made a famous, widely shown movie promoting Garrison's claims about the murder of JFK.

If none of this happened, if Stone et al. weren't still to this day promoting Garrison's nonsense, you likely wouldn't be writing about it. And we wouldn't be talking about it much if at all.

The problem is not with you; the problem is some people still believe and promote these falsehoods. And I find it both interesting and revealing that the people who are angry with you aren't angry with Garrison and Stone. They are the ones discrediting the conspiracy view not you.

If you're a conspiracy believer or think the lone assassin explanation is wrong (the two aren't the same) you should be furious with what Stone and DiEugenio are doing. The make your side look quite foolish.

Perfectly stated.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #885 on: February 10, 2022, 03:30:13 AM »
Garrison's general view on the assassination - that the national security state of the US that emerged after WWII due to the actions by Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union killed JFK because he threatened their power and status - still holds sway among a group of people including Oliver Stone. Who, in case it's not known, made a famous, widely shown movie promoting Garrison's claims about the murder of JFK.

If none of this happened, if Stone et al. weren't still to this day promoting Garrison's nonsense, you likely wouldn't be writing about it. And we wouldn't be talking about it much if at all.

I'll grant you that Stone's film, 'JFK', and his other films like 'Platoon', impacted my political views.

But nothing made me more distrustful of the US national security state aka Military Industrial Complex than seeing the way they've carried themselves in the post-9/11/01 era.

And I'm not alone. The MIC and their enablers in the US Press has itself to blame for the increasing distrust Americans have of those institutions. Stone is responsible for maybe a fraction of that problem.

Stone didn't teach me about US coups and assassinations abroad. He didn't teach me about US imperialism. He didn't teach me about the CIA's role in arms smuggling and drug trafficking. All those things I discovered independently of Oliver Stone's film catalogue.

People believe the US government lies because well, the US government lies. And a government that refuses to stop being secretive about an assassination of a US President that happened over 50 years ago deserves every ounce of doubt that Americans have about the Kennedy assassination.

The exchange below between an AP reporter and the current US State Dept Press Secretary highlights the fact that no one buys the lies from the MIC anymore. Even some in the Press are catching on...

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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #886 on: February 11, 2022, 02:19:35 PM »
Hugh Aynesworth on the Garrison Investigation, Part Three
Garrison's list of conspirators in the JFK assassination was longer than Joseph McCarthy's list of communists in the State Department.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/hugh-aynesworth-on-the-garrison-investigation-part-three

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Re: Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?
« Reply #887 on: March 13, 2023, 05:21:28 PM »
I was searching through a load of stuff on the three tramps, trying to find some stuff A.J. Weberman wrote. And I came across an article Chauncey Holt allegedly wrote in reply to a review of Posner's Case Closed. I don't know if it was ever published by the San Diego Union Tribune. Holt appeared to have researched the assassination minutia (going by his article). 

I don't really want to paste a whole load of JPG's of the document so I'll drop it in PDF form and anyone interested can read.

I forgot I've had this document. Was kinda interesting Chauncey Holt claims he and Marvin Wise were in talks to meet up and discuss facts. Or something along those lines.

https://smallpdf.com/result#r=b8be6ab63e33ad8feefc0a8e067a4cad&t=share-document

Posted six weeks ago by Ron Bulman on the Ed Forum,

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I guess we shouldn't delve into the Weberman theory of two set's of tramps.  The shadows in the pictures.  The train stop after Bowers released it because he saw men climbing on down the track towards Union Station around two o'clock.  The men in the grain car.  Documented, then it disappeared.

Offline Mike Orr

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Re: On The Trail Of Delusion
« Reply #888 on: July 22, 2023, 10:39:17 PM »
JFK had one bullet hole in his back and no bullet was found and the bullet hole was only about one small finger 1st knuckle deep , but Gerald Ford moved that bullet hole up to the base of the back of JFK's neck so it would somehow make it look like CE 399 could make all those moves and break bones on its way to finally ending up in John Connallys thigh and that bullet was not removed so why do we have CE 399 , the magic bullet being shown as a bullet that was said to cause all that damage in JFK & JC and not have damage to it when the bullet was said to be in John Connally. CE 399 can't be in two places at the same time just like Oswald could not be in the lunchroom and on the 6th floor at the same time and the you have Oswald being in the theater while Tippit is being killed .