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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #413 on: November 21, 2021, 06:58:53 AM »
  Obviously Marina had to take them because Oswald wasn't really close to other people who would have taken them for him.     
Still wondering why it is so obvious. When demonstrating to Robert Blakey and the HSCA panel.. how she had used the camera ...she held it upside down. She couldn't state at first whether she took more than one picture...no one could explain how a 3rd B Y photo popped up out of the blue thirteen years later ---
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In 1976, during the Schweiker-Hart assassination investigation, another "backyard photograph" emerged. This one was found by Mrs. Geneva Ruth Dees, widow of Roscoe Anthony White, who began working for the Dallas Police, in the photographic department, on October 7, 1963. The picture was found among a collection of 40 photographs retained by White as souvenirs. According to Mrs. Dees, White, her former husband, was skilled in trick photography.


 I suspect that Roscoe White could have been involved in framing Oswald.

I still wonder why.... Why no other rolls of film were ever connected to that camera?...Also where were the negatives processed and printed? ..Why was the rest of the film roll not utilized? ... I mean regular routine family pictures should have conscientiously occurred to a somewhat frugal Oswald.
 Sorry...58 years later and it all still really stinks.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #414 on: November 21, 2021, 07:23:40 AM »
.. the Oswald Backyard photos went under rigorous forensic photo analysis just a few years ago and every photo was proven to be 100% authentic with absolutely no forgery.
...and Hussein had WMDs.

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Lee Harvey Oswald in the backyard of his Dallas apartment home in April 1963.

For decades, conspiracy theorists have claimed the famous "backyard photo" of Lee Harvey Oswald, which shows him holding the same type of rifle used to assassinate JFK, is a fake — a claim that Oswald himself made when he was arrested. But thanks to a scientist who has studied this photo before and stated previously it was "highly improbable that anyone could have created such a perfect forgery with the technology available in 1963," that claim has now been debunked.

A new study out of Dartmouth, published in the Journal of Digital Forensics, Security, and Law, used sophisticated 3D imaging technology to analyze key details of the photo, including Oswald's pose, and found that the photo is indeed authentic, a press release notes.

"Our detailed analysis of Oswald's pose, the lighting and shadows, and the rifle in his hands refutes the argument of photo tampering," said Hany Farid, the study's senior author.

Both the Warren Commission and a special House committee on assassinations had already found photo tampering hadn't taken place, and Farid had done studies in 2009 and 2010 that determined the photo's lighting and shadows were indeed feasible, per Phys.org. But some said that Oswald's pose in the photo, in which he appears to be standing somewhat off-balance, was a physical impossibility, so this time around Farid and his team put the photo through a rigorous 3D stability analysis. By adding appropriate mass little by little to each section of a 3D model of Oswald, they were able to examine Oswald's balance to show he certainly could have stood that way. The study also found, once again, that the lighting, shadows, and rifle length were also plausible.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/20/newser-lee-harvey-oswald/74264150/
 Words like feasible and plausible don't sound all that exact to me.
The "study" reproduced models of the photos but did they ever find an actual guy who could stand like that rifle in hand? Oswald could have been on Americas got talent.
Someone explain why the rifle has a scope in some pictures and in others not?

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #415 on: November 21, 2021, 08:08:46 AM »
JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
Oliver Stone's so-called documentary, JFK Revisited, misuses an interview clip of Marina Porter to try and show her denying that she took the backyard photographs.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-revisited-uses-marina-porter-to-mislead-viewers


Brokaw specifically mentions ballistics tests.
In her denial, Marina specifically mentions ballistics tests.

Not sure what you're seeing.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #416 on: November 21, 2021, 12:36:35 PM »
Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?

She didn't give a crap about guns, in fact called them something like 'man toys' She was always putting Oswald down, such as his musing about becoming an ambassador, or something. She laughed at this macho back-yard boy thing as well.

As for any inconsistency in testifying generally, I recall something about her referring to the fact that he was her husband; that the first thing one does is protect one's spouse.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #417 on: November 21, 2021, 05:10:36 PM »
Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?

So you are questioning that they are authentic?  I thought you just said they were genuine and you were only questioning whether they depict the same MC rifle found on the 6th floor.   Again, she didn't forget that she took them.  She has always been consistent on that fact.  Only in the pedantic world or CTers in which someone can't remember the exact day and number of such photos that she took has she ever been hazy.  She seemed dismissive of Oswald's nutty behavior while they were married.  Taking a few pictures of him pretending to be some type of revolutionary figure must have struck her as humorous.  It only becomes a notable event many months later.  In hindsight it is easy to say that she should have committed every detail to memory but she had no cause to do so at the time.  That doesn't cast doubt on the authenticity of the photos.  She confirms that she took them. 

Online Fred Litwin

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JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
« Reply #418 on: November 21, 2021, 06:37:30 PM »
JFK Revisited Doesn't Tell the Whole Truth about John Connally
Oliver Stone's so-called documentary includes a video clip of John Connally seemingly disputing the single bullet theory. Oliver Stone doesn't tell you the whole truth about John Connally.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-revisited-doesn-t-tell-the-whole-truth-about-john-connally

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: JFK Revisited Uses Marina Porter to Mislead Viewers
« Reply #419 on: November 21, 2021, 10:19:04 PM »
Most likely she wanted to distance herself from any involvement with Lee so she played dumb. People do this all the time.

It's possible but doesn't explain her inconsistent testimony once she finally admitted to taking the photos.