On The Trail Of Delusion

[Tom Scully]

Why does Salandria's name keep popping up?  Poor Vince went to his grave knowing he would be a 'postumous senior member in perpetuity' of Ralph Stinky's beloved Oswald Innocence Campaign....... LOL.  Gosh, I wonder how Ralph's name keeps changing by itself???

Watcha smokin'?

It reads C1nque if you spell C_nque with a "1" 'stead-o-n' eye!

Anyway, looks like you read Fred's screed thoroughly, but I don't think this controversy is so "black or white," nothing involving "circus barker" Garrison and his CIA, smoke n' mirrors ever is!

Wander over to the Sirhan thread
Link: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3076.msg115643.html#msg115643

 and watch me try to pull a rabbit out of this hat...

Fred's blog post opens with this caption under an image of Bradley "decked out" with polygraph equipment in a sort of PR photo.:

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/edgar-eugene-bradley-another-garrison-victim
....
Original caption: (January 4, 1968)

"The photo shows Edgar Eugene Bradley, who was accused by District Attorney Jim Garrison of New Orleans of being part of the conspiracy to assassinate the late President Kennedy, as he holds a press conference to report the findings of a private lie detector test he had taken to prove his innocence in the case. Posing here only to show the equipment is Bradley. Behind him at left is his attorney, George Jensen, and at right, polygraph expert Major Chris Dugas." ...

So, this confirmed to me that Fred didn't do enough homework, and that there might be more here than meets the eye....

[Fred Litwin]

Was Edgar Eugene Bradley One of the Three Tramps?

Richard E. Sprague convinced Jim Garrison that Bradley was one of the tramps. Some staffers weren't so sure. None of it made any sense - particularly since Roger Craig said that Bradley was one of the 'secret service' men outside the TSBD. Here is an exercise in silly conspiracy thinking.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/was-edgar-eugene-bradley-one-of-the-three-tramps

[Robert Reeves]

Oi Fred, if Fred is your real name? Are you an American? I don't know many Americans named Fred.

Anyway, you might want to amend your details about the three tramps.

- It emerged in 1993 that the three tramps were exactly that - the Dallas City Council released its JFK assassination files. Arrest records were found for the three tramps - their names were Harold Doyle, John Gedney, and Gus Abrams. Two of the tramps were still alive and they confirmed that they were the ones pictured.

You might not have been closely following thing's around here lately. I noticed you drop a bomb and leave. Anyway, I have shown that the three tramps (photographed) were actually released on the day of the assassination. Lets just say that. Rather than start a debate about if these suspects were released within an hour of being detained at his majesty Decker's  pleasure.



That document above is the FBI interview conducted with Marvin Wise, one of the arresting officers, and one of the photographed Dallas cops. He CLEARLY states that the tramps he arrested were released, on the day. Like I said, I wont get into a debate of exactly when on the 22nd they were allowed to walk out of the [doors]. But they did.

Below is Doyle's FBI statement where he says they (him and his tramp buddies) were released after two or three nights. Their arrest sheet says they were actually released on the 24th, I believe.



I too got the tramp documents from Denis Morissette's website. I presume you just got his name wrong?

Also, where did you read about Doyle stating he was one of the three tramps photographed. Please give the source as I must have missed this. This would be crucial, I think.

Hey Fred, I nearly forgot, did you know that one of the other cops that detained the three tramps  William Chambers, he stated that at one point the three tramps were actually facing legit questioning as to which one of them shot the president? I Helicopter you not Fred.

Look below Fred



Those are FBI interview notes with Chambers in 92.

Seems a real pity these three tramps were released presumably minutes or even hours after being found hiding in a box car behind the grassy knoll. Just a few hundred feet from where the president was shot.

Be honest Fred, are you curious? are you now burning this internal curiosity to find out what the hell happened to these three mysterious tramps that appear to have just got away without anyone really knowing their true identities. Or should we just be curious to find out if 'the supposed cop' that told Marvin Wise the tramps had been released was actually a legit cop. Or maybe Wise was going senile and his statements 30 years later are not worth jackshit. Weird Innit! Fred!

What do you think about that, Fred?

[Fred Litwin]

Have you not seen the arrest records of the three tramps? 

Their names were Harold Doyle, John Gedney, and Gus Abrams.

fred

[Robert Reeves]

I have Fred, I have copies of all three. They're incomplete. But that is irrelevant ... did you not see officer Wise statement to the FBI IN 92. He clearly states the three tramps he arrested and was photographed with in dealey plaza were released that day (time unknown).

Officer Wise below



I haven't read your book Fred, But you may have to amend the details if you've incorrectly stated Doyle, Gedney, Abrams being the three tramps.

But you have the details of where Doyle stated he was the tramps photographed? I await your document.

Here's the incomplete arrest sheet of Gedney, It means NOTHING.



An incomplete document without any fingerprints/arrest number.

Fred, are you willing to admit we do not know the identities of the three tramps - if we're to believe Marvin Wise' 1992 statement to the FBI?

[Fred Litwin]

If I had $1 for every government form not fully filled out.

We're dealing with humans, here.

There is no mystery here. You are trying to create a mystery.

There is none.

fred

[Gerry Down]

Do tramps hang around in three's like that? Its not like being a tramp is a "thing" that causes them to congregate.

And they have no bags with them (except the old guy). No tent or any thing like that.