The First Shot

[Jack Nessan]

It is not unreasonable to dismiss the 75% (if that is the actual number) when they are demonstrably wrong. Many of that 75% thought the last two shots came right on top of each other which is not possible with a bolt action rifle and all the physical evidence indicates all three shots were fired by Oswald's bolt action rifle. Large numbers of people can be fooled by the same phenomenon. We can only speculate why a large number of people got the spacing wrong because we don't know what they actually heard. I suspect many of those people heard two sounds from the final shot, which is a recognized phenomenon. There were many earwitnesses who did not seem no recognize the sound of the first shot. If those same people heard a double sound from the final shot, they could easily be fooled into believing the last two shots were close together. JBC's visible reaction at Z164, the simultaneous raising of the arms of JFK and JBC at Z226, and the obvious head explosion at Z313 give us a good idea as to the spacing of the shots. What we don't know is how quickly JBC reacted to the first shot by looking over his right shoulder. Dale Myers has hypothesized a shot as late as Z160. My own belief is the first shot was fired at Z147-148 followed by a noticeable camera jiggle at Z155. Tom Graves believes it was fired about a half second before Zapruder resumed filming. Without definitive proof, there is no way to say who is right, but under two of those scenarios, the first two shots would have been closer together while under the Graves scenario, they would have been almost evenly spaced, with the last two shots coming only marginally closer together than the first two.

The physical evidence indicates all three shots were fired by Oswald's bolt action rifle.

What physical evidence? Prove there were three shots

 Many of that 75% thought the last two shots came right on top of each other which is not possible with a bolt action rifle and all the physical evidence indicates all three shots were fired by Oswald's bolt action rifle. Large numbers of people can be fooled by the same phenomenon. We can only speculate why a large number of people got the spacing wrong because we don't know what they actually heard. I suspect many of those people heard two sounds from the final shot
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Stumbling around you the way you do, you probably don't even realize your right. You are stating the three shot witnesses, 75% of them, were really two shot witnesses who mistook the double sounds from a single shot, the last shot, as two shots, making a total of three shots. Finally, even you realize how ridiculous the early missed shot is.

 

[Jarrett Smith]

It is not unreasonable to dismiss the 75% (if that is the actual number) when they are demonstrably wrong. Many of that 75% thought the last two shots came right on top of each other which is not possible with a bolt action rifle and all the physical evidence indicates all three shots were fired by Oswald's bolt action rifle. Large numbers of people can be fooled by the same phenomenon. We can only speculate why a large number of people got the spacing wrong because we don't know what they actually heard. I suspect many of those people heard two sounds from the final shot, which is a recognized phenomenon. There were many earwitnesses who did not seem no recognize the sound of the first shot. If those same people heard a double sound from the final shot, they could easily be fooled into believing the last two shots were close together. JBC's visible reaction at Z164, the simultaneous raising of the arms of JFK and JBC at Z226, and the obvious head explosion at Z313 give us a good idea as to the spacing of the shots. What we don't know is how quickly JBC reacted to the first shot by looking over his right shoulder. Dale Myers has hypothesized a shot as late as Z160. My own belief is the first shot was fired at Z147-148 followed by a noticeable camera jiggle at Z155. Tom Graves believes it was fired about a half second before Zapruder resumed filming. Without definitive proof, there is no way to say who is right, but under two of those scenarios, the first two shots would have been closer together while under the Graves scenario, they would have been almost evenly spaced, with the last two shots coming only marginally closer together than the first two.

Sam Kinney's description of the shots.

[John Corbett]

Witnesses have given us numerous versions of what happened but there is only one right version and Kinney's ain't it.

[Jack Nessan]

Witnesses have given us numerous versions of what happened but there is only one right version and Kinney's ain't it.

That is just wrong.

SA Sam Kinney
11/22/63
I was driving SS 679-X, follow-up. As we turned off Main Street (left) about 4 minutes from our destination of Trade Mart. The first shot was fired as we were going into an underpass. The first shot was fired, I glanced from the taillight of SS 100-X, at the President and it appeared that he had been shot because he slumped to the left. Immediately he sat up again.* At this time the second shot was fired and I observed hair flying from the right side of his head. With this, simultaneously with the President's car, we stepped on the gas. I released the siren at that time. I did hear three shots but do not recall which shots were those that hit the President.
*At this time Clint Hill jumped off and ran to the President's car, jumped on the back, and laid out across the trunk in a prone position where he rode the entire trip to the hospital.

Notice the date 11/22/63. The statement was made immediately after the assassination. SA Kinney clearly stated shot 1 JFK reacts by slumping to the left, shot two is the head shot. States shot two Clint Hill is running to JFK’s limousine. Exactly what is viewed in the Zapruder Film. Exactly, and without any strange interpretations of Gov Connally’s movements and some supposed fictional shot that no one heard and which there is no evidence that it ever happened and you are unable to pinpoint as to when it took place.

Aren't you the guy who always claims the Zapruder Film is the official record. It could not be any clearer when SA Kinney narrates the assassination and uses the actions of SA Clint Hill as viewed on a number of peoples films of Hill jumping on the car to prove it

Maybe it is time to wake up and come to reality, JFK was struck by the first shot. Then SA Kinney clearly states the second shot was the headshot, and at which point in time Clint Hill jumps on the back of the car. Clint Hill also stated there were only two shots.

Finally, another shot is just thrown in with no correlation to the rest of the statement. Completely outside of what SA Kinney thinks the shot sequence is that he has just witnessed. An example of medias Influence, according to the WC and HSCA conclusions and their stated belief that due to the medias reporting, the witnesses inflated the number of shots.

This whole nonsense that the witnesses did not know what was going on is just pure crap because you can’t face the reality the early missed shot is completely wrong. Dreamt up by a group of make believe experts with no real grasp of what had taken place. They also ignored what all the witnesses stated and look how stupid it makes them look.