The First Shot

[Andrew Mason]

That's right Andrew.
As it has been demonstrated to you numerous times, JBC's wrist is way above where the bullet exited his chest at z271.
It is impossible for the bullet to have struck the top side of his wrist in this position.
Physically impossible.As has been demonstrated to you on numerous occasions.

It is also physically impossible that JBC's radius was shattered by a blow from a bullet yet his hand/arm doesn't move a fraction of an inch in response to this blow.
When will you accept that your stillborn theory died a long, long time ago.
Denial is a super-unhealthy mental state.

The wrist is in exactly the right position at z271 for the bullet exiting just below the right nipple.  The right elbow may be pressed against the lower ribs but the radius is a few inches in front of the chest. It does move between z271 and z272



but it is constrained by the elbow that is pressed on both sides (the elbow is between the seatback and the lower ribs).

[John Corbett]

The wrist is in exactly the right position at z271 for the bullet exiting just below the right nipple.  The right elbow may be pressed against the lower ribs but the radius is a few inches in front of the chest. It does move between z271 and z272



but it is constrained by the elbow that is pressed on both sides (the elbow is between the seatback and the lower ribs).

How the hell does a bullet fired from behind the limo exit from the right nipple during that sequence? It's preposterous

[Dan O'meara]

The wrist is in exactly the right position at z271 for the bullet exiting just below the right nipple.  The right elbow may be pressed against the lower ribs but the radius is a few inches in front of the chest. It does move between z271 and z272



but it is constrained by the elbow that is pressed on both sides (the elbow is between the seatback and the lower ribs).

Come on Andrew, let's not go through all this yet again.



Just be honest.
Look at the image of JBC's jacket above and how low down the bullet hole is.
Remember the bullet exits on a downward trajectory, so his wrist would have to be even lower than the bullet hole.
Now look at how high up JBC is holding his wrist in z271.

All you need to do is be honest.

[John Corbett]

In Altgens 6 we see Agents Landis, Ready and Hickey looking over their right shoulders towards the TSBD, presumably in response to the sound of gunfire:


Landis - "I heard what sounded like the report of a high-powered rifle from behind me, over my right shoulder...", "My first glance was at the President, as I was practically looking in his direction anyway...", "I immediately returned my gaze, over my right shoulder."

Ready - "I heard what appeared to be fire crackers going off from my position. I immediately turned to my right rear trying to locate the source but was not able to determine the exact location."

Hickey - "I heard what seemed to me that a firecracker exploded to the right and rear. I stood partially up and turned to the rear to see if I could observe anything. "

Each agent describes their immediate reactions to hearing the first shot, turning to look over their right shoulders looking towards where they felt the sound came from. This is exactly what we see in Altgens 6. However, when we take a closer look at Zapruder we see no meaningful reaction from them (Hickey looks briefly over the side of the car but then returns to his original position). The partial footage of the Z-film below focuses on the follow-up car. It runs from z133 to z207. At no point do we see any meaningful reaction from the agents mentioned above:



A first shot in the z130's or z160's is ruled out by this evidence.
Even a shot around z190 seems unlikely.

It is only ruled out if we assume these agents recognized the sound of the first gunshot. Agent Bennett reported two shots prior to Altgens taking his #6 picture. He heard the first shot and saw the second shot strike JFK on the upper back. Both of the shots were fired before Altgens 6 was taken. So we are left with two possibilities. Landis, Ready, and Hickey didn't recognize the sound of the first shot for what it was or Bennett heard a shot that wasn't fired. Which do you think makes more sense?

[Andrew Mason]

How the hell does a bullet fired from behind the limo exit from the right nipple during that sequence? It's preposterous

I didn’t make up the notion the JBC was turned sideways when the second shot sounded. Nellie and Gayle Newman observed it and JBC’s three doctors agreed that his chest was nearly parallel to the direction of the bullet:

[Andrew Mason]

Come on Andrew, let's not go through all this yet again.

The location of the hole in the clothing such as a jacket that is free to move around can be misleading. You also have the jacket on a hanger. Here it is on the body:

 

Just be honest.
Look at the image of JBC's jacket above and how low down the bullet hole is.
Remember the bullet exits on a downward trajectory, so his wrist would have to be even lower than the bullet hole.

Now look at how high up JBC is holding his wrist in z271.

All you need to do is be honest.

The bullet struck just above the end of the jacket cuff and struck the middle of the french cuff:



To suggest that one has to be dishonest to argue that JBC was struck on the second shot at z271 is to demonstrate a lack of understanding of all the evidence.

[Zeon Mason]

Dans Z224 1st shot sequence fits better than any other of the LN 1st shot miss sequences with a 3rd shot that could possibly have hit  the manhole cover. It’s an unaimed shot 2 secs after Z313. If it’s possible a lead fragment separated from the copper jacket and flew across the green to strike the curb near Tague, then that fragment was probably traveling at least 1500ft/ sec which would have been enough to cause some concrete debris from the curb causing Tagues cheek wound. It fits closer with Norman’s shot spacing and with Tagues recollection ( he said it was the 2nd OR the 3rd shot). And 4.8 secs then 2 secs is lot closer to the 75%witness heard  shot pattern of 1… 2.3 than any LN Z140 thru Z170 1st shot missed sequence that is 9-10secs in duration.

Andrew’s Z190-Z270-Z313 sequence is the only other LN proposal but where in there could the manhole cover have been hit?