The First Shot

[John Corbett]

John Lattimer's "bulging jacket tests": https://dn710700.ca.archive.org/0/items/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/Lattimer%20John%20K%20Dr%20109.pdf



And equally important test #2. If the bullet going through Connally was NOT tumbling when it hit him it wouldn't create a jacket bulge. This is because the resulting wound would have been smaller; there would less fragmentation of the ribs that contributed to the bulging. The bulging was not caused solely by the bullet exiting the chest; it was the bullet and the rib fragments exiting Connally's chest that caused it.

One thing I am curious about is what if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through the jacket and the jacket bulging. Was Lattimer able to determine that. The reason I ask because in other super slow motion footage I've seen of a bullet passing through an object, the bullet exits and the debris it disperses follows behind the bullet. That kind of footage shows thousands of frames per second as opposed to 18 fps, but I think there still might be a lag time of a few frames.

[Andrew Mason]

I think if JFK had been hit at Z190, that at least ONE of those SS agents should have seen JFK move at least a little bit and the SS agents would probably have reacted by Z207. So the Z190 1st shot theory is improbable.

First of all, we can’t see the agents very well because they are all in the doubly exposed sprocket area. We can’t really make out McIntyre behind Clint Hill until a full second after z190. George Hickey in the rear left seat is crouched down and looking left at z193 and is up higher and looking forward right by z207.

Jack Ready on the front right is holding onto the front handhold with his right hand until z198 and by z207 the right hand is down by his side and his body has turned right. He said he turned right immediately after the first shot. That change is well underway within about one second of z190 and could be part of a reaction to the first shot.

And let’s not forget the sudden right head turn of Rosemary Willis from z202-206….

[Steve M. Galbraith]

One thing I am curious about is what if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through the jacket and the jacket bulging. Was Lattimer able to determine that. The reason I ask because in other super slow motion footage I've seen of a bullet passing through an object, the bullet exits and the debris it disperses follows behind the bullet. That kind of footage shows thousands of frames per second as opposed to 18 fps, but I think there still might be a lag time of a few frames.

Remember it's Lattimer's theory that it was the rib fragments and tissue exploding/exiting/ejecting from Connally's chest that caused the bulge not the bullet. Critics point to the exit hole in Connally's jacket to say the hole was too low to cause the lapel/jacket bulge. I think they are right. But if the jacket bulge/pop out was caused by fragments higher up, it would, theoretically work.

As to time element: The article is a bit difficult to read but I don't see any reference to the timing between the two. I would think it would have been too quick to capture on the Z film. The jacket is 3-4 inches away from the body? I would think any rib fragments/bullet going through would take less than 1/18 of a second.

The single bullet explanation has its flaws but the alternative explanations or theories are worse. The olde "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Connally's shirt:

[John Corbett]

I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket. The point is I don't believe that bulge would happened simultaneous with the bullet exiting. As I said before, slow motion footage I've seen of objects being shot by rifle bullets always show the debris following behind the bullet, not pushed out in front of it. That's why I think it is significant to know at what frame the bullet entered the jacket to determine how much if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through JBC's body and the movement of the jacket. I seem to recall in another thread someone saying Lattimer had determined the bullet passed through JBC before Z224 but I can't recall how many frames before nor can I find that thread where that observation was made.

What source have you used to show Lattimer's research on this matter.

[Tom Graves]

I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket.

It does matter, because the bullet hole itself was too low to cause such a high bulge.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

I don't think it matters whether it was the bullet or rib fragments which caused the bulge in the jacket. The point is I don't believe that bulge would happened simultaneous with the bullet exiting. As I said before, slow motion footage I've seen of objects being shot by rifle bullets always show the debris following behind the bullet, not pushed out in front of it. That's why I think it is significant to know at what frame the bullet entered the jacket to determine how much if any lag time there would be between the bullet passing through JBC's body and the movement of the jacket. I seem to recall in another thread someone saying Lattimer had determined the bullet passed through JBC before Z224 but I can't recall how many frames before nor can I find that thread where that observation was made.

What source have you used to show Lattimer's research on this matter.

Re bullet vs. rib fragments/tissue: The bullet hole in JBC's jacket is too low, too small to cause the bulge and lapel flip.

This *by itself* proves nothing but combined with the other evidence and other explanations supports the SBT.

Here is the Lattimer piece: https://dn710700.ca.archive.org/0/items/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/nsia-LattimerJohnKDr/Lattimer%20John%20K%20Dr%20109.pdf

Fred Litwin goes this more here: https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/dr-cyril-wecht-and-governor-connally-s-coat-bulge