The First Shot

[Dan O'meara]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Speer's so unsure that Burney was standing next to Dishong that he posits that she may have been standing a little to the east (i.e., towards the TSBD) of hard-hat Millican and even posted a cropped photographic image showing her leaning out towards the limo and waving at JFK and Jackie as it passed by.

Perhaps you missed that.

Regardless, how many of your precious witnesses said they heard two more shots after your beloved Z-222 "first shot"?

-- Tom

Pat Speer - "It seems probable, then, that Burney was Dishong's companion."

Perhaps you missed that.
Now I'm familiar with your trolling tactics I have to note that you clearly have no problem with the positions of other witnesses and that they all have the limo passed their positions at the time of the first shot.
How do explain that?

[Tom Graves]

Pat Speer - "It seems probable, then, that Burney was Dishong's companion."

Perhaps you missed that.

"One ID in particular nags at me. It is that of Peggy Burney, an assistant to Abraham Zapruder, and first cousin to journalist Vivian Castleberry. While I have placed her with June Dishong, she may very well have stood a bit to the east of A.J. Millican. A crop from the Betzner photo taken at Z-186 follows. ... Burney could very well be the woman pointed out by an arrow. (As we will see, a number of Dal-Tex Building employees stood on this part of the curb, and Burney worked in the Dal-Tex.)"

https://www.patspeer.com/chapter-7b-more-pieces-in-the-plaza

[Dan O'meara]

"One ID in particular nags at me. It is that of Peggy Burney, an assistant to Abraham Zapruder, and first cousin to journalist Vivian Castleberry. While I have placed her with June Dishong, she may very well have stood a bit to the east of A.J. Millican. A crop from the Betzner photo taken at Z-186 follows. ... Burney could very well be the woman pointed out by an arrow. (As we will see, a number of Dal-Tex Building employees stood on this part of the curb, and Burney worked in the Dal-Tex.)"

https://www.patspeer.com/chapter-7b-more-pieces-in-the-plaza

Your silence over the other witnesses speaks volumes.
Keep on trollin' 

[Tom Graves]

Your silence over the other witnesses speaks volumes.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

How many of your "Z-222 first shot" witnesses said they heard two shots after it?

-- Tom

[Dan O'meara]

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

How many of your "Z-222 first shot" witnesses said they heard two shots after it?

-- Tom

Q - How many of the witnesses stated that the limo had passed their location at the time of the first shot

A - All of them

 

Surely even a troll like you must accept the obvious implications of this evidence.

[Tom Graves]

Q - How many of the witnesses stated that the limo had passed their location at the time of the first shot
A - All of them

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Question:

How is it that one of your precious witnesses, Ernest Brandt, described your "Z-222 first shot" as thunderous whereas others said it sounded like a firecracker or just another of those darn motorcycle backfires?

Answer:

The Z-222 shot was Oswald's second, and, unlike his missing-everything first shot, the muzzle of his short-rifle was outside the Sniper's Nest window.

-- Tom

[Tom Graves]

Your silence over the other witnesses speaks volumes.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

When it comes to the following witnesses, so does yours.


Witnesses Placing the First Shot Earlier than Z-160:


1. Nellie Connally

In some statements, she says the shot came as they were turning, not after straightening out.

This places the sound before Z-155, possibly Z-140–150.

Other statements shift it slightly later, which is why she appears in both timing camps.


2. William Greer

In early accounts, Greer indicates the sound occurred during the turn.

Later testimony places it just after the turn.

The “during the turn” version implies earlier than Z-160.


3. Roy Kellerman

Described the first shot as coming almost immediately upon entering Elm Street.

Depending on how strictly one interprets “upon entering,” this can be Z-140–150 rather than Z-160.


4. Jean Hill

In early interviews, she indicates the sound came very quickly after the turn, almost as the car emerged from behind the Stemmons sign area.

Some reconstructions place her first-shot perception slightly earlier than Z-160.


5. Lee Bowers

Described the first report as occurring before any visible reaction or “disturbance.”

His vantage allows a pre-reaction placement, sometimes put before Z-160 in strict reconstructions.


-- Tom