The First Shot

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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1448 on: Yesterday at 07:30:51 PM »
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  DAN - Thanks for providing the "backstory" with respect to that Roselle/Scearce "study". I have yet to see any evidence supporting the Max Holland "early shot" scenario. But in spite of this, this baloney gets repeated by "water carriers" such as Graves. It's Urban Legends such as this that are eventually accepted as being fact over the course of time. Your going out of your way to set the record straight is extremely important and appreciated.   
The early first shot miss is in conflict with vast amounts of mutually consistent, well-corroborated evidence.  If there was a first shot miss, one would have to set aside all principles of fact-finding that investigators, intelligence experts and courts use to determine facts.  Tom et al. don't seem to want to address the evidence.  They prefer reading tea leaves/a.k.a. head turns. 

Note: That is not to say that I agree with you and Dan on other issues, though.

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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #1449 on: Yesterday at 08:21:58 PM »
The early first shot miss is in conflict with vast amounts of mutually consistent, well-corroborated evidence.  If there was a first shot miss, one would have to set aside all principles of fact-finding that investigators, intelligence experts and courts use to determine facts.  Tom et al. don't seem to want to address the evidence.  They prefer reading tea leaves/a.k.a. head turns. 

Note: That is not to say that I agree with you and Dan on other issues, though.

   Graves claims to know what Gov Connally was thinking too. His claiming that Connally was turning to his (L) in order to check on Nellie is pure fabrication. 

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« Reply #1450 on: Yesterday at 11:14:52 PM »
Graves claims to know what Gov Connally was thinking too. His claiming that Connally was turning to his (L) in order to check on Nellie is pure fabrication.

Comrade Storing,

Why did Connally quickly turn far to his right around Z-140, quickly turn to his left around Z-154, quickly turn far to his right around Z-168, and start turning to his left again (when he was hit by CE-399 at Z-222)?



Answer: Because he heard the loud sound "behind and to his right" at "Z-124" and recognized it as a rifle shot.

Regarding why Connally turned quickly to his left around Z-154 (and was captured looking straight ahead by Croft at Z-161), it was Charles Collins' idea that he did so to see if Nellie was okay, and Charles points out the JFK turned his head towards Jackie right before that.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with Charles, not me.

-- Tom
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