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Debunked nonsense.
This thread contains a staggering amount of evidence demonstrating, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that such an early shot is out of the question.
Who cares what you imagine people in the Z-film are looking at, or what they are thinking?
Do some research and provide some actual evidence to support your fantasies. It's the least a 'researcher' should do.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

You're so full of beans I can smell you from here.

The only question is:

Does Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

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and John Connally's quick head turn and peripheral glance at Nellie at Z-150, the final stage of which was captured by Croft at Z-161.

So Croft captures JBC reacting to what he immediately recognized as a high powered rifle shot, by expressing his distress at realizing that an assassination was occurring and wanting to see JFK?

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So, Croft captures JBC reacting to what he immediately recognized as a high-powered rifle shot, by expressing his distress at realizing that an assassination was occurring and wanting to see JFK?

What do you mean by "expressing his distress"?

If you had been Connally and you had heard a high-powered rifle shot from behind about a-second-and-a-half earlier, what would you have done?

Jump out of the limo?

A frame or two after Z-161, Connally, after seeing that Nellie was okay, quickly turned his head and upper torso far back to his right to see where the shot had come from and to see if JFK was okay.

He couldn't "see" JFK, however, because JFK had turned his head to his far right and started waving to someone, thereby blocking Connally's view of his now-in-profile face.

Connally decided to turn back the other way to try to catch a glimpse of JFK over his left shoulder but only made it about 1/5 of the way there when JFK and he were struck by CE-399 around Z-222.

How many times do I have to inform you of this?

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« Reply #1411 on: Today at 03:10:12 AM »
Debunked nonsense.
This thread contains a staggering amount of evidence demonstrating, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that such an early shot is out of the question.
Who cares what you imagine people in the Z-film are looking at, or what they are thinking?
Do some research and provide some actual evidence to support your fantasies. It's the least a 'researcher' should do.

   Exactly

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« Reply #1412 on: Today at 03:22:13 AM »
Exactly

Sez one cherished-by-Putin tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist to another cherished-by-Putin tinfoil-hat JFKA conspiracy theorist.
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What do you mean by "expressing his distress"?

If you had been Connally and you had heard a high-powered rifle shot from behind about a-second-and-a-half earlier, what would you have done?

Jump out of the limo?

A frame or two after Z-161, Connally, after seeing that Nellie was okay, quickly turned his head and upper torso far back to his right to see where the shot had come from and to see if JFK was okay.

He couldn't "see" JFK, however, because JFK had turned his head to his far right and started waving to someone, thereby blocking Connally's view of his now-in-profile face.

Connally decided to turn back the other way to try to catch a glimpse of JFK over his left shoulder but only made it about 1/5 of the way there when JFK and he were struck by CE-399 around Z-222.

How many times do I have to inform you of this?

Connally decided to turn back the other way to try to catch a glimpse of JFK over his left shoulder but only made it about 1/5 of the way there when JFK and he were struck by CE-399 around Z-222.

Stay away from the details of this case as you have no clue.
JBC is NOT looking to his left when he is hit by the first shot.
He is clearly looking to his right.


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« Reply #1414 on: Today at 09:53:59 AM »
JBC was NOT looking to his left when he was hit by the first shot.
He was clearly looking to his right.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I didn't say that he was, Mr. Illiterate.

Since you're so ignorant about the Zapruder film, I guess I should have informed you at the very beginning that Connally was looking to his right all the way from Z-133 to Z-150154, then, as I said in my previous post, having heard the loud sound at "Z-124" and recognizing it as a rifle shot, he consciously and quickly started turning his head to his left at Z-150154 to see if Nellie was okay (that's why he was "captured" facing straight ahead at Z-161 by Croft). Then he started turning his head and upper torso back far to his right to see where the shot had come from and to see if JFK was okay, but he wasn't able to "see" JFK over his right shoulder (see my previous post) so he started turning back to his left at Z-211 or so with the idea of trying to catch a glimpse of JFK over his left shoulder and he was turning, turning, turning to his left but still facing Zapruder when JFK and he were hit by CE-399 around Z-222.

Friendly suggestion:

Take a remedial reading class, Comrade danny BOY o'meara.


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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1415 on: Today at 03:08:17 PM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I didn't say that he was, Mr. Illiterate.

Since you're so ignorant about the Zapruder film, I guess I should have informed you at the very beginning that Connally was looking to his right all the way from Z-133 to Z-150154, then, as I said in my previous post, having heard the loud sound at "Z-124" and recognizing it as a rifle shot, he consciously and quickly started turning his head to his left at Z-150154 to see if Nellie was okay (that's why he was "captured" facing straight ahead at Z-161 by Croft). Then he started turning his head and upper torso back far to his right to see where the shot had come from and to see if JFK was okay, but he wasn't able to "see" JFK over his right shoulder (see my previous post) so he started turning back to his left at Z-211 or so with the idea of trying to catch a glimpse of JFK over his left shoulder and he was turning, turning, turning to his left but still facing Zapruder when JFK and he were hit by CE-399 around Z-222.

Friendly suggestion:

Take a remedial reading class, Comrade danny BOY o'meara.


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   You gotta wonder IF Gov Connally is seated more toward the middle of the JFK Limo than JFK is, how is it that when Connally turns to his (R) that he can Not see JFK behind him?  Forget this claimed Phantom Shot/Lost Bullet for a moment and realize what is being revealed here. Connally was obviously NOT seated inboard with respect to the backseat position of JFK. This Connally revelation destroys the SBT. If a JFK Assassination conclusion involves Zapruder Film images, there needs to be corroboration. The Zapruder Film is repeatedly Not reliable.       

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