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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #518 on: January 23, 2021, 08:06:29 PM »
He turns to the left slightly between those two frames.  Are you suggesting that the bullet at z223 that you are hypothesizing also caused him to turn in that space of time?

I hadn't yet addressed the issue of JBC's body slightly rotating, so hadn't 'suggested' anything related to it.
However, the answer to your question is "Yes",  JBC's body has ever-so-slightly rotated from one frame to the next (IMO)

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #519 on: January 23, 2021, 08:49:29 PM »
I have argued the Z-film shows the moment JBC's wrist is impacted by the bullet. Obviously none of these arguments are to be taken in isolation but are part of an interlocking 'matrix'.
Supporting the notion that JBC's wrist is impacted at z223 are the following images. The pic below is from z272. I would like to draw attention to Connally's wrist position. In my opinion JBC's hand is at a really unnatural angle which I believe is a result of the bullet impact:



It is not unreasonable to think that such a massive trauma to JBC's wrist would result in a situation where the wrist could no longer support the hand. I believe that is what we are seeing. In the clip below we see JBC's hand, holding his Stetson, reacting to the impact, being driven down then springing up and almost immediately we see this unnatural looking angle of JBC's hand to his wrist.
I am arguing JBC's wrist has been impacted at z223 and the unnatural position of his wrist, immediately after JBC is seen reacting to the shot, supports this view.





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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #520 on: January 23, 2021, 09:18:48 PM »
He turns to the left slightly between those two frames.  Are you suggesting that the bullet at z223 that you are hypothesizing also caused him to turn in that space of time?

I hadn't yet addressed the issue of JBC's body slightly rotating, so hadn't 'suggested' anything related to it.
However, the answer to your question is "Yes",  JBC's body has ever-so-slightly rotated from one frame to the next (IMO)
I asked whether you thought the turn was also connected to the supposed bullet strike or is it just a coincidence that it occurs at the same time?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #521 on: January 23, 2021, 09:38:39 PM »
I asked whether you thought the turn was also connected to the supposed bullet strike or is it just a coincidence that it occurs at the same time?

Yes, I believe the slight rotation of JBC's body from one frame to the next is caused by the impact of the bullet.
The bullet has punctured the muscles of his back, crushed part of his rib and burst through the muscle of his chest. I believe this impact has slightly rotated his body.
JBC's body continues to rotate in the frames immediately after as well.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #522 on: January 23, 2021, 10:59:48 PM »
I've created this simple Gif to emphasise how extreme Connally's reaction to being shot is. We've already seen the incredibly quick "hat flip" but this is to show how his body has reacted. I've taken a close up from z223 where Connally is sat upright, looking composed. The other frame is from z240 - less than one second later - and shows JBC twisted and contorted in his seat.
It is clearly an extreme reaction.


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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #523 on: January 24, 2021, 12:28:27 AM »
I've created this simple Gif to emphasise how extreme Connally's reaction to being shot is. We've already seen the incredibly quick "hat flip" but this is to show how his body has reacted. I've taken a close up from z223 where Connally is sat upright, looking composed. The other frame is from z240 - less than one second later - and shows JBC twisted and contorted in his seat.
It is clearly an extreme reaction.


I agree that it is a sudden turn of the shoulders and torso from forward facing to about 75 degrees right together with a turn of the head about the same relative to the shoulders, so the head is turned about 150 degrees to the right. That would appear to be an intentional turn.

How can you tell that it is NOT the intentional turn that JBC said he made after the first shot and before he felt the bullet strike his back?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #524 on: January 24, 2021, 01:40:02 AM »
I agree that it is a sudden turn of the shoulders and torso from forward facing to about 75 degrees right together with a turn of the head about the same relative to the shoulders, so the head is turned about 150 degrees to the right. That would appear to be an intentional turn.

How can you tell that it is NOT the intentional turn that JBC said he made after the first shot and before he felt the bullet strike his back?

Because of the copious amounts examples I've given, leading up to the post you are responding to, highlighting a multitude of reactions/movements indicating JBC is shot at this point. The radical nature of this turn, within less than a second of sitting upright, is just another supporting piece of evidence that JBC is reacting to being shot.

You would like to take this single example out of context and treat it as if it's an isolated incident but it's not.

Connally's various interviews, reports and testimonies concerning the assassination are full of contradictions and his account changes over time. More importantly, a lot of his statements are refuted by the Z-film. Take his WC testimony for example, he states he heard what he thought was a shot, turned to his right and as he was turning to his left was shot. Immediately when he was shot he 'said' "Oh, no, no, no" (Jackie Kennedy describes him yelling or screaming. In one interview she says he "screamed like a stuck pig).
In the Z-film he turns briefly to his left (z160's) then back to his right (at no point does he attempt to look over his right shoulder as he states in his testimony). As we've seen in my previous posts, he stays in this position as he passes behind the Stemmons sign and is still in the same position - looking to his right - as he emerges from behind the sign.
At no point does he attempt to turn to his left as he states in his WC testimony. He is shot and then appears to cry out "Oh, no, no, no":





It is interesting to note that JBC states:

"I knew I had been hit, and I immediately assumed, because of the amount of blood, and in fact, that it had obviously passed through my chest. that I had probably been fatally hit.
So I merely doubled up, and then turned to my right again and began to--I just sat there, and Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap."

This is the right turn we see after JBC has been shot. The phrase "doubled up" describes the posture we see in z240:



Immediately after this JBC states:

"I merely doubled up, and then turned to my right again and began to--I just sat there, and Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap."

This is what we see in the Z-film





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