The First Shot

[Andrew Mason]

What elevation was the camera in relation to the left shoulder? It appears to me to be about level with it.

I could have done a better job of showing the setup details.  I did this several years ago.The camera was about 6 inches above the end of the meter stick. So the camera is above the shoulder.  Here is a side view of the setup.

[Charles Collins]

I could have done a better job of showing the setup details.  I did this several years ago.The camera was about 6 inches above the end of the meter stick. So the camera is above the shoulder.  Here is a side view of the setup.

It appears that this photo is a good illustration of my point about having to keep tension in order to stay in that twisted position. The hand on the lower leg appears to be helping to hold the pose.



By the way, I  believe that I might have been discussing this topic with you when you made the photos years ago. I found this photo in an old computer file:





 I don't remember which one of us combined the two photos. Back then we could use screen names, so mine was different than it is today.

[Andrew Mason]

It appears that this photo is a good illustration of my point about having to keep tension in order to stay in that twisted position. The hand on the lower leg appears to be helping to hold the pose.

As I recall it was necessary to hold the right leg to do that to keep the right knee from its natural tendency to move right as one turns to the right.  I wanted the right knee to point more or less forward and not to the side as JBC had the door on the right to keep the knee from moving farther right. It may have been easier to hold a right shoulder turn by pressing the right leg against the door. 

But I don't see how all this affects the position of the left knee.  It tends to move left when the torso turns right and there is no question that at z190-200 JBC has his shoulders turned right.

I don't remember which one of us combined the two photos. Back then we could use screen names, so mine was different than it is today.

The loss of the archived threads from years ago is unfortunate.

[Gerry Down]

Left of picture. I thought that was a woman bending over

Then released it was a lamp.

[Charles Collins]

Left of picture. I thought that was a woman bending over

Then released it was a lamp.

That lamp (and another one just like it) was made by my mother and given to me many years before, when I left home. I believe that I hadn’t yet completely gotten that room’s furniture arrangement worked out or set up at the time the photo was made. Hence the lamp on the floor.   

[Charles Collins]

As I recall it was necessary to hold the right leg to do that to keep the right knee from its natural tendency to move right as one turns to the right.  I wanted the right knee to point more or less forward and not to the side as JBC had the door on the right to keep the knee from moving farther right. It may have been easier to hold a right shoulder turn by pressing the right leg against the door. 

But I don't see how all this affects the position of the left knee.  It tends to move left when the torso turns right and there is no question that at z190-200 JBC has his shoulders turned right.
The loss of the archived threads from years ago is unfortunate.

Some of us are not as flexible as others. For me personally, I would need to grab my leg and pull against it to even attempt to twist my torso as far to the right as the one in your photo. That pose also reminds me of a pose in a Hatha Yoga book that I used to do to stretch and try to stay more flexible.

[Andrew Mason]

Some of us are not as flexible as others. For me personally, I would need to grab my leg and pull against it to even attempt to twist my torso as far to the right as the one in your photo. That pose also reminds me of a pose in a Hatha Yoga book that I used to do to stretch and try to stay more flexible.

I put several books under my feet and put my feet close together.  I pulled my chair up to the right side of my desk so that my right knee is pressed against the inside right wall of my desk. I then turned my torso sharply to the right as we see JBC doing from z190-200 and held it there without holding my hand on any part of my body.  But I could not do that without having my left knee somewhat out to the left.  I certainly could not keep my left knee directly in front of me.  I will see if I can get someone to take a picture for me.