The First Shot

[Royell Storing]

Oswald made Oswald fit.
What "original LN theory" would that be. The WC findings have needed no revision.
You seem to be operating under the popular misconception that the WC concluded that Oswald fired his 3 shots under 6 seconds. That was never a WC conclusion no matter how many times the CT side has asserted it was. Six Seconds in Dallas was a book written by Josiah Thompson. He's and LN. Maybe he chose to that scenario because it was the most improbable and therefore the easiest to attack.
The WCR never had a great fall. It still stands tall almost 62 years after it was first released and has needed no revisions to remain viable. Meanwhile on silly conspiracy theory after another has fallen by the wayside. Badgeman, Greer did it, storm drain shooter, Mortal Error, etc. None have stood the test of time.

                                                                     ".....needed no revisions to remain viable"?

                          What about Gerry Ford moving the written description of the JFK BACK Wound up to the, "base of the neck"?

[John Corbett]

                                                                     ".....needed no revisions to remain viable"?

                          What about Gerry Ford moving the written description of the JFK BACK Wound up to the, "base of the neck"?

Yeah, that was a dumb idea. Totally unnecessary. This is what happens when amateurs try to substitute their opinions for those of the professionals. Sometimes even LNs do that, but usually it's the CTs.

[John Corbett]

Yeah, that was a dumb idea. Totally unnecessary. This is what happens when amateurs try to substitute their opinions for those of the professionals. Sometimes even LNs do that, but usually it's the CTs.

PS. I didn't vote for him but that wasn't the reason.

[Andrew Mason]

He wasn't wasting a shot. He was giving himself an extra chance. Had he waited, he would have had to wait until the limo cleared the tree before he used his four rounds. Apparently, Oswald calculated that an early shot before the limo went under the tree was a better chance than what a fourth shot after the limo went past the tree. Given the results, he calculated correctly. As it turned out, his fourth shot was unnecessary. He only had to fire two shots after the limo cleared the tree. Again I ask, why are you second guessing his successful decisions?

I am not second guessing anything.  I don't see any evidence that he took an early shot that missed the entire car. One can't second-guess something that didn't happen.

You were suggesting he had nothing to lose by taking an early first shot at a difficult angle and making subsequent shots more difficult - rather than taking all the time he needed to line up a much easier first shot, and possibly three later shots, with the rifle strapped to him and resting on boxes. 

He had everything to lose by taking a risky early shot.  Unlike a hockey or soccer player, he was limited to four shots.  A wasted bullet would alert everyone to a shot several seconds before he would have a chance to take another shot.  Then he would have a difficult time scrambling to line up the next shot in an entirely different direction and then getting the last three shots off as the car went down the street.  That may be why there is no evidence that he did that.  In fact there is abundant evidence that he didn't.

If he had taken a first shot as the car passed in front of the TSBD and then setup the rifle for a down-street shot, Dearie Cabell, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins, who saw the rifle immediately after the first shot would have seen it moving around.  They all said they saw the rifle pointing down Elm St.

[John Corbett]

I am not second guessing anything.  I don't see any evidence that he took an early shot that missed the entire car. One can't second-guess something that didn't happen.

There is none so blind as he who will not see.

You were suggesting he had nothing to lose by taking an early first shot at a difficult angle and making subsequent shots more difficult - rather than taking all the time he needed to line up a much easier first shot, and possibly three later shots, with the rifle strapped to him and resting on boxes. 

When you decide to assassinate a president, you will get to make those decisions. This was Oswald's gig and he got to make those choices. The results indicate he chose well.

He had everything to lose by taking a risky early shot.  Unlike a hockey or soccer player, he was limited to four shots.  A wasted bullet would alert everyone to a shot several seconds before he would have a chance to take another shot.  Then he would have a difficult time scrambling to line up the next shot in an entirely different direction and then getting the last three shots off as the car went down the street.  That may be why there is no evidence that he did that.  In fact there is abundant evidence that he didn't.

He may or may not have taken that into account, but the Secret Service's slow response made that a moot point. Some of the agents didn't even hear that shot.

If he had taken a first shot as the car passed in front of the TSBD and then setup the rifle for a down-street shot, Dearie Cabell, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins, who saw the rifle immediately after the first shot would have seen it moving around.  They all said they saw the rifle pointing down Elm St.

Brennan didn't locate the shooter until just before the last shot. He only saw the final shot. He also only remembers two shots. He did say in both his same day affidavit and his WC testimony that the limo had just passed the sniper's nest window when he heard the first shot. I don't place a lot of faith in witness recollections but you do so how do you explain that?

[Royell Storing]

I am not second guessing anything.  I don't see any evidence that he took an early shot that missed the entire car. One can't second-guess something that didn't happen.

You were suggesting he had nothing to lose by taking an early first shot at a difficult angle and making subsequent shots more difficult - rather than taking all the time he needed to line up a much easier first shot, and possibly three later shots, with the rifle strapped to him and resting on boxes. 

He had everything to lose by taking a risky early shot.  Unlike a hockey or soccer player, he was limited to four shots.  A wasted bullet would alert everyone to a shot several seconds before he would have a chance to take another shot.  Then he would have a difficult time scrambling to line up the next shot in an entirely different direction and then getting the last three shots off as the car went down the street.  That may be why there is no evidence that he did that.  In fact there is abundant evidence that he didn't.

If he had taken a first shot as the car passed in front of the TSBD and then setup the rifle for a down-street shot, Dearie Cabell, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins, who saw the rifle immediately after the first shot would have seen it moving around.  They all said they saw the rifle pointing down Elm St.

   That's a good point about the rifle barrel not being seen moving around AFTER a possible early 1st shot. That's the 1st time I have heard this issue brought up.

[Tom Graves]

I don't see any evidence that [Oswald] took an early shot that missed the entire car. One can't second-guess something that didn't happen.

Lacking a chunk of asphalt's being kicked up and captured on film, or a body's flopping around wounded on the ground, the only evidence you're going to get is the fact that all five passengers in the limo moved their heads quickly -- and in different directions -- within half-a-second of each other between Z-140 and Z-150, that Ready, Bennett and Hickey all gyrated in different directions during the same timeframe, and that Rosemary Willis interrupted her once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to view Jackie and JFK up-close by turning her head farther to her right, in the direction of the TSBD in Z-141.

Oh yeah, and the fact that several people reported hearing a very early "backfire" or "firecracker."

Oh yeah, and that JBC heard a very early high-powered rifle shot.

Hint: that's why, after turning his head quickly to his left starting in Z-150, he turned it quickly back to his far right starting in Z-164 in a futile attempt to catch a glimpse of JFK over his right shoulder.


That's "D'oh ....... D'oh! ........ D'oh!," not "D'oh! ......... D'oh! D'oh!"