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The First Shot
Zeon Mason:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 09, 2026, 05:43:31 PM ---Connally's WC testimony estimated the elapsed time of the shooting at between 10 and 12 seconds.
Mr. SPECTER. What is your best estimate as to the timespan between the first shot which you heard and the shot which you heretofore characterized as the third shot?
Governor CONNALLY. It was a very brief span of time; oh, I would have to say a matter of seconds. I don't know, 10, 12 seconds.
I don't know if you are being facetious or not but the only rifle in the world that could have fired the recovered bullets and shells was Oswald's Carcano.
I've heard that claim often. I've never seen compelling evidence that happened. There seems to be some dispute in the various accounts as to whether he picked up the shells before they were photographed.
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That’s kind of contradictory for JC to make a statement he thought the rifle was a semi auto rifle and then say he’s estimating 3 shots in 10-12 secs. He’s in the minority on that estimate.
As far as the Will Fritz thing, my Bing AI says yes it’s true that he picked up the shells before they were photographed. Maybe GROK will know?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on June 09, 2026, 07:51:36 PM ---That’s kind of contradictory for JC to make a statement he thought the rifle was a semi auto rifle and then say he’s estimating 3 shots in 10-12 secs. He’s in the minority on that estimate.
As far as the Will Fritz thing, my Bing AI says yes it’s true that he picked up the shells before they were photographed. Maybe GROK will know?
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3 shots in 10 to 12 seconds is a reasonable rate of fire for either a semi-auto, a bolt action, or a lever gun. There's no way JBC could figure out what kind of rifle it was based on the rate of fire even though his impression was that it was a semi-auto. That is nothing more than a guess. We can safely say it wasn't a full auto, since a full auto would fire 100 rounds in 10 seconds. Even if we limited Oswald to 5.6 seconds, that's 56 rounds. Anybody want to take that position?
Zeon Mason:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 09, 2026, 07:54:13 PM ---3 shots in 10 to 12 seconds is a reasonable rate of fire for either a semi-auto, a bolt action, or a lever gun. There's no way JBC could figure out what kind of rifle it was based on the rate of fire even though his impression was that it was a semi-auto. That is nothing more than a guess. We can safely say it wasn't a full auto, since a full auto would fire 100 rounds in 10 seconds. Even if we limited Oswald to 5.6 seconds, that's 56 rounds. Anybody want to take that position?
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But those last 2 shots that the 3/4ths majority have spaced only 1-2 secs apart is what is contradicting JC or Buell W Frazier 10-12 sec recollection.
How many other witness spaces the shots out to 10-12 secs?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on June 09, 2026, 08:40:41 PM ---But those last 2 shots that the 3/4ths majority have spaced only 1-2 secs apart is what is contradicting JC or Buell W Frazier 10-12 sec recollection.
How many other witness spaces the shots out to 10-12 secs?
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I doubt many were asked that question. The few I am aware of varied their estimates widely.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on June 09, 2026, 08:40:41 PM ---But those last 2 shots that the 3/4ths majority have spaced only 1-2 secs apart is what is contradicting JC or Buell W Frazier 10-12 sec recollection.
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By no means did 75% of the ear witnesses who reported on the spacing of the shots say the last two shots were 1-2 seconds apart. Most did not put a time on the spacing of the last two shots. Many just described the last two as being noticeably closer together than the first two. Most described a pause after the first shot and then two rapid shots. Several said the last two were about two seconds apart (e.g. Robert Jackson: “I guess, two seconds” ; Roger Craig: “no more than two seconds”). Allan Sweatt thought there were 7 seconds between the first and second and 2-3 seconds after that was the third shot.
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