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Online Royell Storing

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1302 on: November 16, 2025, 02:41:37 PM »

  If you are going to buy into a "Theory", you probably need to KNOW the details of said "Theory". I continue urging you to expand your foundational knowledge of the JFK Assassination. In construction, the general philosophy is that the broader the base, the taller the structure. You currently reside in a 1 story ramshackle Line Shack. Instead of doing some actual research, you request that I supply you with the details. As my Dad used to tell me whenever I got lazy, "I'll work With You. I will Not work For You.". This is the "work ethic" that resulted in my discovering the "getaway car". Get off of your duff and do your own JFK Assassination research. Broaden your base. 

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« Reply #1303 on: November 16, 2025, 07:27:48 PM »
  There is literally NO EVIDENCE of an early 1st shot. Head turns of witnesses is proof of nothing. And now they are forced to move the physical position of the JFK Limo to accommodate a possible early shot? This is simply the attempted jamming of a square peg into a round hole.

Governor Connally heard the first shot that missed and being an avid hunter, I believe him. So, you have one missed shot before both are hit at Z-223/224. The majority of testimony says that shot was the 1st of 3 meaning 4 total.








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« Reply #1304 on: November 16, 2025, 07:32:27 PM »

  Kellerman said in his WC Testimony that a "flurry" of shots came into the car. I take this to mean MORE than 4 shots.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1305 on: November 16, 2025, 11:39:45 PM »
If you are going to buy into a "Theory", you probably need to know the details of said "theory". I continue urging you to expand your foundational knowledge of the JFK assassination. In construction, the general philosophy is that the broader the base, the taller the structure. You currently reside in a one-story ramshackle line shack. Instead of doing some actual research, you request that I supply you with the details. As my dad used to tell me whenever I got lazy, "I'll work With You. I will Not work For You." This is the "work ethic" that resulted in my discovering the "getaway car". Get off of your duff and do your own JFK assassination research. Broaden your base.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1306 on: November 17, 2025, 12:04:16 AM »
Kellerman said in his WC Testimony that a "flurry" of shots came into the car. I take this to mean MORE than 4 shots.

Dear Comrade Storing,

The "flurry" Kellerman was referring to was a combination of the Z-222 / Z-224 shot and the results of the Z-313 head shot -- fragments striking the chrome strip and the windshield.

D'oh!

Rhetorical question:

In which Z-frame before Z-224 did Kellerman quickly start leaning forward and looking down and behind him?

Answer: Z-148; 1.31 seconds after Oswald's missing-everything shot at "Z-124" and within 1/4 of a second of JFK's, Jackie's, JBC's, Nellie's, George Hickey's and Rosemary Willis' conscious and fast-moving reactions to the sounds of the same missing-everything shot.

-- Tom

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1307 on: November 17, 2025, 02:52:57 PM »

   The ASAIC Kellerman knows what a "flurry" means. He's Not talking about shrapnel or bone matter clanging around. They were under intense fire and he was pinned down in that front seat due to the large chrome strip stretching directly behind him from one side of the car to the other. It's hard to figure how they upgraded the JFK Limo with that heavy metal chrome brace limiting the front seated SS Agents. I could see that strip making the cut if it was then mandatory to have SS Agents standing on the JFK Limo running boards when the top was off of the car. Other than that, there is no way this heavy metal chrome strip makes it off of the sketch board.   

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« Reply #1308 on: November 17, 2025, 04:59:52 PM »
Let's quote Kellerman. Here he is on the "flurry of shells":

Mr. SPECTER. Now, in your prior testimony you described a flurry of shells into the car. How many shots did you hear after the first noise which you described as sounding like a firecracker?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Mr. Specter, these shells came in all together.
Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to say how many you heard?
Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say two, and it was like a double bang--bang, bang.

I would think that a bullet fragment hitting the chrome over the windshield and another fragment hitting the windshield would sound like a "flurry" of shots/shells. Plus, as he later said he was splattered with blood from the wound to JFK's head. Which wouldn't have happened if the wound blew out the back of JFK's head and not the top/right. But that's another story.

In any case, he says the "flurry of shells" was "two."

Link/source: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/kellerma.htm
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