Power cut important clarification required

[John Iacoletti]

One obvious possibility for any power outage is that its source is external to the building.  Coming from someone who claims it is a strawman argument that anyone has suggested a conspiracy - even though that claim has been made directly and indirectly by many of your nutty kindred

The strawman is the vast fantasy conspiracy of thousands who meticulously planned every little detail of what happened that day and the months leading up to it.  That's the one you keep invoking in your counter-arguments, and yes, you are nutty to keep inventing it.

Because the sign was working - regardless of whether it was on the same or separate power source as the TSBD - that tells us there was no external power outage to that location.  The sign is relevant in ruling out that possibility.

Cool, you've ruled out that possibility.  Now how about actually supporting your claim that there was not a power outage of any kind and that Mooney just didn't know how to work the elevator and neither did Adams (or what excuse did you use for her?), and that Hine was talking about lights on her phone?

[Tim Nickerson]

Please explain exactly what you have to do to make them operate correctly, Tim.

Ray, watch the following video up to the 1:20 mark and you'll get what I believe is a good visual explanation as to why the elevator failed to work for Officer Mooney.

[John Mytton]

Ray, watch the following video up to the 1:20 mark and you'll get what I believe is a good visual explanation as to why the elevator failed to work for Officer Mooney.

That's a good video and explains the intricacies of operating the doors on the Elevator, I guarantee that without previous knowledge that 0% of the CT's here would be able to operate the Elevator in your video and I bet that 100% of LNers would figure it out because that's what we do!



JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

LNers usually just automatically believe anything a cop says in this case.  Unless the cop says something that goes against their little fantasy bubble.  Then the cop gets thrown right under the bus.  Too stupid to figure out how to close a gate, but he suddenly got a lot smarter when it came to remembering where the empty shells were located.

[Tim Nickerson]

That's a good video and explains the intricacies of operating the doors on the Elevator, I guarantee that without previous knowledge that 0% of the CT's here would be able to operate the Elevator in your video and I bet that 100% of LNers would figure it out because that's what we do!
JohnM

Fortunately for me, I never had to figure it out on my own. It was explained to me the first time I ever got on a freight elevator and before the button was even pressed.

[Tim Nickerson]

Are you now claiming that the elevator design in the TSBD was not unique to the TSBD?

Tom, I don't know if the elevator design in the TSBD was unique to the TSBD or not. I doubt that it was though.

[Tim Nickerson]

Which leads to the reasonable assumption that this was a generic freight elevator design back in the day.

Can you provide any evidence that Mooney had not operated a freight elevator prior to Nov 22, 1963, making him unaware of that gate detail?

Can you provide any evidence that Mooney had operated a freight elevator prior to Nov 22, 1963, making him aware of that gate detail?