Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory

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Offline Michael Carney

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2020, 04:00:40 PM »
It’s curious, when you look at top down photo of where the JFK limo and the grassy knoll are located. A shot from the grassy knoll would be to JFK’s right, not front. So no windshield issues, no glass issues. But the throat shot had to have come from the front, where could a shooter have shot from the front. Overpass had a policeman on it. What am I missing??

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2020, 06:22:11 PM »
It’s curious, when you look at top down photo of where the JFK limo and the grassy knoll are located. A shot from the grassy knoll would be to JFK’s right, not front. So no windshield issues, no glass issues. But the throat shot had to have come from the front, where could a shooter have shot from the front. Overpass had a policeman on it. What am I missing??

Maybe from the storm drain on the north side of the Elm St.

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2020, 07:49:25 PM »
It’s curious, when you look at top down photo of where the JFK limo and the grassy knoll are located. A shot from the grassy knoll would be to JFK’s right, not front. So no windshield issues, no glass issues. But the throat shot had to have come from the front, where could a shooter have shot from the front. Overpass had a policeman on it. What am I missing??

Journalist Richard Dudman, who got a long, good look at the windshield hole, said the hole was high up in the left-hand corner of the windshield. Even a bullet penetrating the windshield from the right front could have sprayed glass fragments toward JFK.

Interestingly, Tom Robinson, the mortician, noticed three tiny holes in JFK's cheek, near the right eye. He recalled these tiny holes because embalming fluid was leaking from them. These wounds could not have been caused by debris coming from inside the cheek: the major brain trauma sites were too far away, and bone would have obstructed a path from the brain anyway. Something must have struck JFK's cheek from the outside.

Dr. Mantik devotes four pages to this issue in Murder in Dealey Plaza, pp. 257-260. Among many other things, he says,


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And then I wondered, if there really had been a complete hole in the windshield (Larry Sneed, No More Silence 1998, pp. 147-148), was it possible that a fragment of glass had caused the throat wound? It met all of the requirements: it was radiolucent, it had a limited range, the pathologists (probably) would not have seen it, and, furthermore, the bullet might even have come from the right front. In particular, spray of glass particles, diverging in a cone (even from a right front shot) might have permitted some of them to strike JFK in a left to right direction. (p. 258)
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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2020, 12:04:56 AM »
I just did some investigating on my own and found some illustrations; one by Don Roberdeau and one by Ian Greenhalgh. Don’s illustration is a bullet path from the hole in the windshield to JFK’s throat. Ian’s illustration is a top view of Dealy Plaza showing JFK limo in various locations along the route with Z film frame numbers. I estimated the frame number JFK was hit in the throat at about 218, because he was behind the sign when hit. Then I reduced bullet path illustration and taped it to the Dealy Plaza at the approximate frame location I choose. By extending the bullet path you see where it would have come from, a parking area on the far side of Commerce St.

Parking lot: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dealey+Plaza/@32.77807,-96.8091258,137m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x864e9915d508f639:0xcfa47bf25b709fe0!8m2!3d32.7788184!4d-96.8082993

Bullet path illustration: https://imgur.com/bx7eamY
Dealy Plaza map:    http://www.septclues.com/USA%20FAKERY/DealeyPlazaMAP_IanGreenhalgh.jpg
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Online Gerry Down

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2020, 10:38:31 PM »
I just did some investigating on my own and found some illustrations; one by Don Roberdeau and one by Ian Greenhalgh. Don’s illustration is a bullet path from the hole in the windshield to JFK’s throat. Ian’s illustration is a top view of Dealy Plaza showing JFK limo in various locations along the route with Z film frame numbers. I estimated the frame number JFK was hit in the throat at about 218, because he was behind the sign when hit. Then I reduced bullet path illustration and taped it to the Dealy Plaza at the approximate frame location I choose. By extending the bullet path you see where it would have come from, a parking area on the far side of Commerce St.

Parking lot: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dealey+Plaza/@32.77807,-96.8091258,137m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x864e9915d508f639:0xcfa47bf25b709fe0!8m2!3d32.7788184!4d-96.8082993

Bullet path illustration: https://imgur.com/bx7eamY
Dealy Plaza map:    http://www.septclues.com/USA%20FAKERY/DealeyPlazaMAP_IanGreenhalgh.jpg

Sherry Fiester did some work on this. According to her trajectory, the bullet was fired from the south grassy knoll (the other knoll).This bullet went through the windscreen, hence why so many witnesses saw a hole in the windscreen, and hit JFK in the head exiting out the right rear, just like the Parkland doctors confirmed the wound was.

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2020, 11:55:26 PM »
"Sherry Fiester did some work on this. According to her trajectory, the bullet was fired from the south grassy knoll (the other knoll).This bullet went through the windscreen, hence why so many witnesses saw a hole in the windscreen, and hit JFK in the head exiting out the right rear, just like the Parkland doctors confirmed the wound was."

Where was the entry wound? Thanks for the tip about Sherry Fiester, I will check it out.


Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2021, 04:39:09 AM »
Maybe from the storm drain on the north side of the Elm St.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2021, 01:12:16 AM by Marjan Rynkiewicz »