My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #126 on: August 13, 2020, 07:34:39 PM »
But many stations had not start recording their broadcasts until after 1:25. KBOX, for instance, did not start recording until 1:35, and within the first minute, by 1:36, reported

Why do you keep making this assertion?  KBOX was recording during the motorcade.  The tapes went "missing".

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By 1:19 CST, a radio station could broadcast the news about the death of a police officer,

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

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But as I was saying, if it was ever proven that the was no such broadcast. That officer Sabastian, or some unknown officer thought he heard such a broadcast about the death of a police officer, but was mistaken, it wouldn’t matter one bit. Mr. Brewer would just be one more witness who got his facts jumbled up:

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #127 on: August 13, 2020, 07:50:40 PM »
So, now you are jumping back to this thread again? Why? Did you exhaust all your options on the other thread and now want to give it another go here?

Why did you take quotes from my reply in the other thread and post them here, without saying so? Did you hope to confuse the readers who obviously will not find my actual reply in this thread?

And even more importantly, why did you edit part of one of the quotes?

Well, whatever the answer, I'm not playing your game anymore. You can repeat stuff that has already been debunked as much as you like. Have fun with it.

If it was ever proven that there was no such broadcast

This is just about the dumbest thing to say, yet it is so typical for you. A negative can not be proven nor does it need to be. If you claim there was a radio broadcast than you need to prove it..... but you can't. That's been your problem all along and that's why you keep on twisting and turning without even noticing that you are not fooling anybody.

The most likely scenario of what happened is that Brewer heard the report on the radio that Kennedy was dead and that morphed later into that he heard a report on the radio about Tippit being DOA.

Have fun twisting and turning some more .....
Mr Elliott  wants someone to " prove a negative"?
Back to Logic 101 class for you sir.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2020, 07:55:21 PM »

Why do you keep making this assertion?  KBOX was recording during the motorcade.  The tapes went "missing".

Or was never recorded. Yes, during important events, like the motorcade, they made recordings. And stopped recording when they thought the main public event was over. WFAA did exactly the same.

Any why would these tapes go missing? Were KBOX and WFAA transmitting coded messages to the shooters?



Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

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It is speculation for me to say that Mr. Brewer could have heard an early (with errors) broadcast about the death of a police officer. Like from listening to KBOX at 1:36. But it is not speculation to state that it was impossible for Mr. Brewer to have heard such a broadcast.

Why?

Why aren’t both claims considered “speculation”? And Martin’s claim an unreasonable speculation because we do have a recording of such a broadcast at 1:36, which could form the basis of Mr. Brewer’s memory of events two weeks later.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2020, 07:59:12 PM »

The most likely scenario of what happened is that Brewer heard the report on the radio that Kennedy was dead and that morphed later into that he heard a report on the radio about Tippit being DOA.

Have fun twisting and turning some more .....

Why is that the most likely scenario? Why couldn't Mr. Brewer hear the KBOX broadcast at 1:36 about the death of a Dallas police officer, and that form the basis of him memory, two weeks later, that he heard about the killing of a Dallas police officer before Oswald showed up?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2020, 08:11:43 PM »
Or was never recorded. Yes, during important events, like the motorcade, they made recordings. And stopped recording when they thought the main public event was over. WFAA did exactly the same.

You're leaping to the conclusion that they weren't recording just because you can't find the recordings on Youtube?

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Any why would these tapes go missing?

Because the government "loses" things.

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It is speculation for me to say that Mr. Brewer could have heard an early (with errors) broadcast about the death of a police officer.

Yes.

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Like from listening to KBOX at 1:36. But it is not speculation to state that it was impossible for Mr. Brewer to have heard such a broadcast.

It's not "impossible".  There's just no evidence of such a broadcast. 

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Why aren’t both claims considered “speculation”? And Martin’s claim an unreasonable speculation because we do have a recording of such a broadcast at 1:36, which could form the basis of Mr. Brewer’s memory of events two weeks later.

a) we don't have a broadcast at any time of a patrolman having been shot in Oak Cliff, which is what Brewer claimed.

b) the broadcast you are referring would have been too late anyway.
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2020, 12:36:06 AM »
Mr Elliott:
Brewer's story does not make sense.
He knew nothing regarding Tippit's murder.

Moving on, in later years he expanded his story, saying he knew Oswald, haviing earlier sold him shoes. Curious.

On a side note, Tippit was mentioned as a previous employee of the Texas Theater, according to Julia Postal.
Small world.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #132 on: September 15, 2020, 02:43:05 PM »
Mr Elliott:
Brewer's story does not make sense.
He knew nothing regarding Tippit's murder.

Moving on, in later years he expanded his story, saying he knew Oswald, haviing earlier sold him shoes. Curious.

On a side note, Tippit was mentioned as a previous employee of the Texas Theater, according to Julia Postal.
Small world.

Do you have a source on Brewer saying Oswald bought shoes off him?

Regarding Tippit working at the Texas Theatre, Mrs Tippit said in an interview that this claim was false.