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[Gerry Down]

1) Brewer hears Kennedy has been shot
2) Brewer hears that a patrolman has been shot
3) Brewer hears sirens
4) Brewer sees a man duck into his lobby

Brewer has nothing to lie about: Ask yourself: What would you do if you were in Brewer's shoes?

 

I'd say Brewer had a police radio. In other words, illegally listening in on police communications. Lots of peopel do this.

That was the "radio" he heard the report on that a police officer had been shot.

[Martin Weidmann]

I'd say Brewer had a police radio. In other words, illegally listening in on police communications. Lots of peopel do this.

That was the "radio" he heard the report on that a police officer had been shot.

illegally listening in on police communications.

Not according to "Richard Smith"

[Joe Elliott]

CTers always make a big deal about motive. And motive is important. They often falsely claim that Oswald had no motive. But he did. Many people have murdered famous people. To become historically significant, maybe famous. But in some cases, being historically significant is good enough, and they don’t mind, or can’t avoid, being captured. But in some cases, they would like to escape, maybe get to a foreign country, before claiming their fame.

After murdering President Lincoln, Booth tried to escape. Before proclaiming his act, making himself a historically significant person, Booth tried to stay anonymous and escape, to get to a foreign country where he would be safe. He was deluded. The South was not about to become a foreign country. It was about to surrender. If by some miracle he makes it to Mexico, with a broken leg, there is no hope there. No country in the world was going to harbor the murderer of President Lincoln.

So, there is historical precedent for someone to murder a President, to stay hidden, to stay anonymous, at least until they get over the border.

But now, its time for CTers to step up. To show that they are logically consistent. And answer the question: What is the motive for Mr. Brewer to lie?

He could give Statement 1:

I heard that the President was shot. This made me extra alert. So, when I saw a man act suspiciously and sneak first into my shoe store, as police cars with sirens approached, and then a couple of minutes later sneak into a theater, again, as police cars with sirens approached, I decided to check this out.

Or he could give Statement 2:

I heard that a police officer was shot. This made me extra alert. So, when I saw a man act suspiciously and sneak first into my shoe store, as police cars with sirens approached, and then a couple of minutes later sneak into a theater, again, as police cars with sirens approached, I decided to check this out.

Question 1:

What is Mr. Brewer’s motive for lying? How does Statement 2 serve him better than Statement 1?


My guess is that, as usual, CTers will dodge this question.

If there is no motive, then the logical conclusion is that Mr. Brewer was not lying. That he mis-remembered a detail, like so many of our other witnesses.

[John Tonkovich]

Mr. Tonkowhich

I don’t know if anyone else was in the shoe store. Mr. Freeman brought up the question but did not provide any answer. Go ask him.

Lots of stories that people tell are false. Often because people’s memories are unreliable.

And what motive does Mr. Brewer have to lie and say he was alert because he heard a policeman was shot when he could have said he was alert because he heard the President was shot?

Mr. Elliot: it's Tonkovich

Who were the other  people in the show store?
The FBI made no effort to identify them?
As to Mr. Brewer's motivation? That's what we're trying to find out.
He heard nothing on the radio about the Tippit shooting. Because there had been no such broadcast at that time.  Who cares about the falsehoods in his testimony?
Why was he suspicious of Oswald? Why play junior G-man?

[Joe Elliott]

Mr. Elliot: it's Tonkovich

Mr. Tonkovich: It’s Elliott. With two ‘l’s and two ‘t’s.

Who were the other  people in the show store?
The FBI made no effort to identify them?

What other people? Do we have any record of other people in the store at that time, besides Mr. Brewer and Oswald?

I assume Mr. Brewer probably took a few seconds to lock up his shop before following Oswald into the theater. Did he lock up some other people in his shop over the next few minutes while he did this?

As to Mr. Brewer's motivation? That's what we're trying to find out.

No. That is what you have not been able to figure out. You can’t even think of a possible motive for Mr. Brewer to lie.

He heard nothing on the radio about the Tippit shooting. Because there had been no such broadcast at that time.  Who cares about the falsehoods in his testimony?

I don’t care about false testimony. I don’t care about a witness saying there was only two shots fired at Dealey Plaza. I don’t care about a witness saying the limousine stopped when we know from the film evidence that this statement is false. I only care if someone can provide some sort of motive for the lie. If that can be done, then maybe the false testimony is a lie, not a false memory. But until someone can come up with a plausible motive, I’m going to chalk it up to the usual “false memories” problem which is so common with witnesses.

You can briefly check out the following website on “false memories”:

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/False_memory#:~:text=False%20memory%20refers%20to%20cases,memory%20in%20question%20is%20wrong.

Why was he suspicious of Oswald? Why play junior G-man?

He saw Oswald duck into his store and then duck into a theater within a couple of minutes. Both times with police cars approaching with sirens.

Lot’s of people played junior G-man. We had a car salesman pursue Oswald just after Officer Tippit was shot. We have a mob of people who, went they saw a lot of police cars converge on the Texas theater, assume it had something to do with the assassination. One man wanted the police to allow him to enter the theater and search with a shotgun. There is nothing unusual about Mr. Brewer’s actions. Many others were acting as “junior G-men’.

[John Tonkovich]

Mr. Elliott:
Mr Brewer mentioned that there other people in the store. IBM employees.
"We were listening to the transistor radio...".

[Bill Chapman]

Mr. Tonkovich: It’s Elliott. With two ‘l’s and two ‘t’s.


What other people? Do we have any record of other people in the store at that time, besides Mr. Brewer and Oswald?

I assume Mr. Brewer probably took a few seconds to lock up his shop before following Oswald into the theater. Did he lock up some other people in his shop over the next few minutes while he did this?


No. That is what you have not been able to figure out. You can’t even think of a possible motive for Mr. Brewer to lie.


I don’t care about false testimony. I don’t care about a witness saying there was only two shots fired at Dealey Plaza. I don’t care about a witness saying the limousine stopped when we know from the film evidence that this statement is false. I only care if someone can provide some sort of motive for the lie. If that can be done, then maybe the false testimony is a lie, not a false memory. But until someone can come up with a plausible motive, I’m going to chalk it up to the usual “false memories” problem which is so common with witnesses.

You can briefly check out the following website on “false memories”:

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/False_memory#:~:text=False%20memory%20refers%20to%20cases,memory%20in%20question%20is%20wrong.


He saw Oswald duck into his store and then duck into a theater within a couple of minutes. Both times with police cars approaching with sirens.

Lot’s of people played junior G-man. We had a car salesman pursue Oswald just after Officer Tippit was shot. We have a mob of people who, went they saw a lot of police cars converge on the Texas theater, assume it had something to do with the assassination. One man wanted the police to allow him to enter the theater and search with a shotgun. There is nothing unusual about Mr. Brewer’s actions. Many others were acting as “junior G-men’.

'He saw Oswald duck into his store and then duck into a theater'

A kind of 'duckduckgo'
(Techies will get it)

And I've asked people before to tell us what they would do if they were in Brewer's shoes.