JFK: Trump, Russians, Cuban Missile Crisis

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: JFK: Trump, Russians, Cuban Missile Crisis
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2020, 12:07:17 AM »
Lee Harvey Oswald and the USSR
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Lee Harvey Oswald, the man accused of killing President John F Kennedy in November 1963 had spent two years living in the USSR. He had defected there after serving as a US Marine.

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Re: JFK: Trump, Russians, Cuban Missile Crisis
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Re: JFK: Trump, Russians, Cuban Missile Crisis
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2020, 01:36:50 PM »
We all know how Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis. What would have happened if we had a corrupt compromised idiot like Donald Trump at the helm? For starters, we know he would claim it "was all a hoax" and "it would magically go away". Americans would have been doomed and who knows what kind of disaster would have happened. One thing for sure, is the conservatives in 1960 would never have supported a vile corrupt pathological liar like Benedict Donald as their nominee. People had intelligence and weren't brainwashed with a right wing hack media that pushes propaganda 24/7 which is state run television. Some people believe that former government officials had Russian connections, so Benedict Donald isn't the only one with allegiance to Mother Russia. Thoughts?

My "thought" is that I find it hard to believe that you really, actually, honestly believe that that's how Trump would have handled the Cuban Missile Crisis.

If Trump has "allegiance to Mother Russia," he surely has not acted like it. Trump has sold weapons to Georgia and Ukraine, something that Obama refused to do for fear of angering Moscow, and Putin and his cronies have bitterly condemned those weapons sales. Trump has slapped tariffs on Russian steel. Trump has urged NATO nations to spend more money on defense, a move that Moscow has called "provocative" and "destabilizing." Trump has expelled over 60 Russian diplomats and has shut down one of Russia's consulates in the U.S. Trump tried to get Germany to pull out of is natural-gas-pipeline deal with Russia, a move that Moscow also condemned. Trump pulled us out of Obama's shameful and absurd Iran nuke deal, another move that Russia strongly opposed.

And, FYI, the claim that Trump ever said that COVID-19 "was all a hoax" is demonstrably false. If you look at the transcript or the interview tape, he was clearly talking about the wild claims that Democrats were making about the virus. He was not saying that the virus itself was any kind of a hoax.

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Re: JFK: Trump, Russians, Cuban Missile Crisis
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2020, 08:55:16 PM »
My "thought" is that I find it hard to believe that you really, actually, honestly believe that that's how Trump would have handled the Cuban Missile Crisis.

If Trump has "allegiance to Mother Russia," he surely has not acted like it. Trump has sold weapons to Georgia and Ukraine, something that Obama refused to do for fear of angering Moscow, and Putin and his cronies have bitterly condemned those weapons sales. Trump has slapped tariffs on Russian steel. Trump has urged NATO nations to spend more money on defense, a move that Moscow has called "provocative" and "destabilizing." Trump has expelled over 60 Russian diplomats and has shut down one of Russia's consulates in the U.S. Trump tried to get Germany to pull out of is natural-gas-pipeline deal with Russia, a move that Moscow also condemned. Trump pulled us out of Obama's shameful and absurd Iran nuke deal, another move that Russia strongly opposed.

And, FYI, the claim that Trump ever said that COVID-19 "was all a hoax" is demonstrably false. If you look at the transcript or the interview tape, he was clearly talking about the wild claims that Democrats were making about the virus. He was not saying that the virus itself was any kind of a hoax.

I vehemently oppose Trump's Presidency (he's dangerously unqualified to be POTUS) but agree with most of your post.

It's ironic that people attack Trump's supporters for being Conspiracy Theorists while believing in the Conspiracy Theory that Trump is a Mole for Putin.