The HSCA Investigation: A Major Step Forward in the JFK Case

[John Tonkovich]

No boxes were moved.





Allowing for the perspective change, the start of the crack on the windscreen captured in Altgens7 which was displayed in numerous newspapers the same day shows the same chipped location and radiating crack as officially captured in the early hours of the following day.







JohnM

You have taken an existing photograph, or a frame from a moving photograph,  of the depository, and used some software that creates what, exactly? Imaginary images. Ok.

[John Iacoletti]

You have taken an existing photograph, or a frame from a moving photograph,  of the depository, and used some software that creates what, exactly? Imaginary images. Ok.

Yeah, that’s what “Mytton” does.

[Bill Chapman]

No boxes were moved.





JohnM

'No boxes were moved'

I get the perspective change thing, but I thought the moved/not moved boxes thing was about the boxes right at the window. Yet your gif appears to show the wall of boxes behind the immediate cuckoo nest, and only the tip of a top window box.

 

[John Tonkovich]

'No boxes were moved'

I get the perspective change thing, but I thought the moved/not moved boxes thing was about the boxes right at the window. Yet your gif appears to show the wall of boxes behind the immediate cuckoo nest, and only the tip of a top window box.

 

Mr Mytton would get along well with Dale Myers.
As they say on the streets, " Game recognize game".

[John Mytton]

While today we know the boxes in question to be a few feet from the window, with some receiving sunlight through the window, the HSCA Photographic Panel in 1977 thought the boxes sat "close to the plane of the window") in order to receive sunlight, and that they weren't being lit though the window because the boxes supposedly had no lattice shadows.

    "Since the precise positions of Dillard and Powell at the time of the photographs were unknown,
     it was not possible to calculate precisely the region within the sixth floor room that would have
     been visible to each photographer. In the Dillard photograph, the two the left and right of the
     window frame appear to be in the full light of the Sun, with no shadows cast on them by the frame
     of the partially opened window. In the Powell photograph, it also appears that the boxes are in full
     sunlight, with no shadow cast on them by the window frame."

With 3D and John's animation, we can demonstrate that the box seen in the open window area of the Dillard photo is the high box seen in Powell.



Not perfect but gives the idea.

Nice 3D work Jerry which perfectly reinforces my GIF and it's nice to have someone else around here who understands image analysis, because laymen like Tonkovich, Griffith and Iacoletti who make silly illogical amateur observations only succeed in embarrassing themselves.

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

Mr Mytton would get along well with Dale Myers.
As they say on the streets, " Game recognize game".

Mr Mytton would get along well with Dale Myers.
Agreed. Good call. So would Jerry Organ and myself.

[Bill Chapman]

While today we know the boxes in question to be a few feet from the window, with some receiving sunlight through the window, the HSCA Photographic Panel in 1977 thought the boxes sat "close to the plane of the window") in order to receive sunlight, and that they weren't being lit though the window because the boxes supposedly had no lattice shadows.

    "Since the precise positions of Dillard and Powell at the time of the photographs were unknown,
     it was not possible to calculate precisely the region within the sixth floor room that would have
     been visible to each photographer. In the Dillard photograph, the two the left and right of the
     window frame appear to be in the full light of the Sun, with no shadows cast on them by the frame
     of the partially opened window. In the Powell photograph, it also appears that the boxes are in full
     sunlight, with no shadow cast on them by the window frame."

With 3D and John's animation, we can demonstrate that the box seen in the open window area of the Dillard photo is the high box seen in Powell.



Not perfect but gives the idea.

Understood