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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5971 on: April 10, 2023, 09:16:41 AM »
'Normal people are repulsed by Trump': The Manhattan indictment is chasing away independent voters



Any hopes that the Republican party might have that the indictment of Donald Trump in a Manhattan courtroom last Tuesday will convince outraged independent voters to jump on the Trump train should be put on hold, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

While GOP lawmakers are rallying to the former president's side despite a whopping 34 felony counts related to his alleged payment of hush money to an adult film star and a Playboy model, independent voters and some two-time Trump voters are saying they have had enough and are moving on.

According to the Journal's John McCormick, "While the indictment may embolden Mr. Trump’s core supporters, it is unlikely to help him reach more of the centrist voters he would need to reclaim the White House. A poll released by CNN last week showed 62% of independents approve of the indictment, while Democrats were nearly universal in their approval of it and Republicans largely disapproved of it."

Case in point, Randy Marquardt, the Republican party chairman in Washington County, Wisconsin, said a recent get-together broke up when Trump's name came up as the possible 2024 presidential nominee.

“It got ugly and people eventually went their separate ways to head home,” explained Marquardt. “The other guy argued that Trump came with too much baggage, but there are still quite a few people who are all in with Trump.”

Dallas lawyer David Sherwood, who voted for Mr. Trump in 2016 and 2020, has no desire to see the indicted former president on the ballot in 2024, telling the Journal, "The party should avoid Trump and find a younger and fresher candidate,” before adding, “I don’t think Trump can win because he has too much baggage. He has good policies, but an abrasive personality.”

Independent Josh Olson, of Huntersville, N.C., predicted Republicans would have trouble appealing to voters like himself.

“A lot of us normal people are repulsed by Trump already, whether he was indicted or not,” he explained.

Kevin Welch, an independent living in Pottsville, Pa. said he would be willing to consider a Republican who is not the former president even though he voted for him twice before.

“He’s just too caustic,” he remarked. “I liked some of the things he did for this country, but the division that he causes, because of the words he uses, creates a lot of tension.”

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-some-trump-voters-legal-drama-is-latest-reason-to-move-on-177b67b5?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5972 on: April 10, 2023, 09:26:46 AM »
On Easter Sunday, Criminal Donald was calling for World War III on his failed social media site. Even on the most religious holiday, this lunatic is calling for war & violence. Donnie must be getting scared of his upcoming Fulton County, Georgia and DOJ indictments.     



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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #5973 on: April 11, 2023, 06:19:35 AM »
Fact check: Eric Trump spreads false claims about Alvin Bragg after Donald Trump's arrest
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/07/fact-check-eric-trump-spreads-false-claims-alvin-bragg/11608149002/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5974 on: April 11, 2023, 09:20:39 AM »
No, Criminal Donald is not "surging in the polls" as MAGAs falsely try to claim. Donnie's numbers are going further down the toilet.   

A new ABC/Ipsos poll pegs Trump's favorable rating at just 25%.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5975 on: April 11, 2023, 09:29:48 AM »
Donnie is so toxic, that even members of his own party don't want him around.

Some Republicans are begging Trump to stay out of their primaries

One of the biggest problems that Republicans faced in 2022 is that the majority of Americans didn't want to vote for them. They lost all but one U.S. Senate seat they were hoping to hold onto and failed to take back others. The so-called "red wave" they were bragging would happen failed.

The Washington Examiner reported Monday that the GOP is begging Donald Trump to keep out of the 2024 race.

Steve "Daines has reportedly been in touch with the former president and Donald Trump Jr., his eldest son and a friend of the Montana senator, as part of a larger effort to keep all camps on the same page about candidate selection matters," said the report. "The goal is to avoid messy primary fights that left weakened some 2022 candidates in their general election contests. The stakes are especially high given that Republicans only need to net two seats to win back the Senate in 2024."

"If I were [Daines], I’d focus on his own election, but I doubt if he’ll take that advice," said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC). “You need to learn from your past mistakes. If you don’t make adjustments, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome, it’s insanity.”

"Sure seems like that would be helpful based on our lack of success in 2022," said Senate Minority Whip John Thune (R-SD).

"I hope he stays out because him getting involved last time led to us losing key Senate races we could have won," Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) said. “I think it’s viewed [that way] by almost every single member of the caucus, if not all of them, but I think few will say it because they don’t want to get the wrath of Donald Trump.”

Daines is also looking to try and take out Sen. Jon Tester, a centrist Democrat who is beloved in deep-red Montana.

Then there's the matter of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, who left the Democratic Party and thinks she can win as an independen. Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb just filed to run as a Republican against her. It's unclear whether Trump ally Kari Lake would run in the race.

Read the full report here: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/senate-gop-nrsc-trump-primaries-2024


Trump expected to return to NYC this week for deposition in $250 million state civil case

Donald Trump is expected to return to New York City this week to be deposed in a case over financial records, but this time he isn't facing criminal charges.

The former president will be back in the Big Apple on Thursday to be deposed in a $250 million New York State civil lawsuit Attorney General Letitia James filed last year, CNN reports.

Trump will return to New York just more than a week after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg indicted the former president on 34 felony counts over election interference centering around alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.

The lawsuit alleges that Trump, along with his children and the Trump Organization defrauded lenders and insurers, among other business entities.

“This conduct cannot be brushed aside and dismissed as some sort of good-faith mistake,” James told reporters around the time of the filing on Sept. 21.

According to CNN, the lawsuit alleges that Trump and his associates “repeatedly and persistently to induce banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than would otherwise have been available to the company, to satisfy continuing loan covenants, and to induce insurers to provide insurance coverage for higher limits and at lower premiums.”

Trump was deposed in the case in August of last year, but the former president asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to more than 400 questions — and it is not clear whether he plans to cooperate this time.

Trump before last year’s deposition defended his decision to assert his Fifth Amendment right.

“Anyone in my position not taking the Fifth Amendment would be a fool, an absolute fool,” Trump said in a video of the deposition released by the Attorney General’s Office.

“One statement or answer that is ever so slightly off, just ever so slightly by accident, by mistake, such as it was a sunny, beautiful day when actually it was slightly overcast, would be met by law enforcement.”

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-deposition-2659789406/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5976 on: April 11, 2023, 09:41:52 AM »
'Racists, lunatics, maniacs!' Trump explodes at prosecutors in furious all-caps post



Former President Donald Trump on Monday morning wasn't just content to attack the man whom he appointed to be his attorney general, he also lashed out at prosecutors of all stripes for purportedly leading political investigations into his conduct.

Shortly after he criticized "slovenly" former Attorney General Bill Barr for saying he would likely be indicted for refusing to return top-secret government documents he'd stashed at his Mar-a-Lago resort, Trump took aim at every person investigating him with an all-caps rage post on his Truth Social platform.

"THE ONLY REASON I HAVE THESE ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST ME , HEADED UP BY RACISTS, LUNATICS, AND RADICAL LEFT MANIACS, IS FOR PURPOSES OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE," Trump claimed. "IT WILL BE HARDER FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO CHEAT LIKE THEY DID IN 2020, SO THEY ARE GOING RIGHT TO THE OLD SOVIET UNION PLAYBOOK AND USING THE DOJ, FBI & OTHERS IN 'JUSTICE' TO INTERFERE IN OUR ONCE SACRED ELECTIONS. WE’VE GOT TO SWAMP THESE CHEATERS, AND WE WILL WIN!"

Trump last month was indicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to multiple hush-money payments he made ahead of the 2016 presidential campaign.

He is also under investigation for refusing to return top-secret documents despite receiving a subpoena for them and for his efforts to pressure officials in Georgia to "find" enough votes in that state for him to have won it in the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-investigations-2659761758/


Trump rages at 'slovenly' Bill Barr for saying he'll likely get indicted in classified documents case



Former President Donald Trump launched a tirade against his former attorney general, William Barr, for saying that he will likely face federal charges over the stash of classified documents FBI agents found at his Mar-a-Lago country club.

Barr made the comments during an interview over the weekend with ABC News, during which he said he believes the Stormy Daniels hush payment case being pursued by Manhattan prosecutors is weak, but that "I'd be most concerned about the documents at Mar-a-Lago. I think that's a serious potential case. I think they probably have some very good evidence."

This statement enraged the former president, who took to his Truth Social platform Monday.

"Slovenly and pathetic Bill Barr, our COWARD former A.G., was on ABC FAKE NEWS this weekend making statements that he knows nothing about (he was long since gone from the White House, I wanted him out!) concerning the BOXES HOAX, a continuation of RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, UKRAINE, UKRAINE, the Mueller Witch Hunt, & more," wrote Trump. "While he correctly puts down the N.Y.D.A. case, he plays up the equally ridiculous BOXES HOAX, where Biden should have the problem, not me. Barr is a weak & angry RINO!"

Barr, who served as attorney general in the George H. W. Bush administration before reprising that role through the second half of Trump's term, was continually accused of weaponizing the Justice Department in favor of the former president, including by pre-spinning the Mueller Report on interference by Russia into the 2016 election. He was a large proponent of so-called "unitary executive theory," which denies checks by other branches of government on the presidency.

However, he has grown more critical of his former boss in the wake of efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, which has led to his falling out of Trump's inner circle.

Trump is being investigated by special counsel Jack Smith over his handling of classified documents that were found in the former president's Florida home.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-classified-documents-2659761524/


Trump is a nonstop 'nightmare' for his lawyers: Morning Joe



MSNBC's Joe Scarborough on Monday argued that the political tactics that former President Donald Trump has used in the past to thrash would-be Republican challengers are causing massive headaches for his own legal representatives.

Discussing Trump's difficulty in attracting and retaining top legal talent, Scarborough said it wasn't surprising that Trump took on notorious right-wing attorney Roy Cohn as his mentor given how Cohn was notorious for leveling evidence-free outrageous charges that often did not hold up under close legal scrutiny.

"He just throws things against the wall," Scarborough argued. "Maybe that works in politics for a few years, but legally, talk about what a nightmare that's been for Donald Trump and his lawyers."

Andrew Weissmann, a former prosecutor in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign's ties to Russian operatives, said that Trump did manage to attract at least one very strong criminal defense lawyer, but suggested that Trump is sabotaging this by bringing in other lawyers who are undermining the best arguments against throwing him in jail.

"What he is doing is really hiring people who are not really in his best legal interest because he is just thinking this in terms of politics," he said. "He is going through actually some good lawyers but not giving them the role they should have because he thinks he knows better in a court of law. I don't think that plays out terribly well."

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #5977 on: April 11, 2023, 09:38:06 PM »
Trump continues to surge in the polls and has received over $4 million in campaign donations since this ridiculous political indictment.  Magnificent.  At least some people are still willing to stand up to the Stalinist purge at risk to themselves.

"Trump continues to surge in the polls". :D :D :D

Donnie's polls continues to sink like a rock. 25% approval rating. The lowest approval rating in history!