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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5187 on: May 29, 2022, 01:32:50 AM »
Donnie is like one of those has-been music artists who is unable to get a crowd to come watch the show. Donnie is old, tired, feeble, and senile. His supporters are tired of his washed up act and another small crowd in one of the reddest states in the country speaks volumes. His supporters ignore his endorsements as they vote for the other candidate and they don't even show up to see him whine and rage in person anymore. Wonder how Donnie feels to see all those empty seats knowing his base has slipped away?         

Trump fails to fill Wyoming arena at rally against Liz Cheney

Less than one week after Donald Trump's grudgefest in Georgia was rejected by Republican voters, the former president traveled to Casper, Wyoming as he seeks to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) for objecting to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

The rally was attended by Reps. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Lauren Boebert (R-CO), Kat Cammack (R-FL), and Matt Gaetz (R-FL).

Senate GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) did not attend, but sent a video message that was booed by Trump's MAGA base.

Bryan Schott, a reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune, posted a picture from the arena 30 minutes before the program was scheduled to begin.

"We are about 30 minutes from showtime at the Trump rally in Casper and there are A LOT of empty seats in the arena."



Olivia Nuzzi, Washington correspondent for New York Magazine, posted multiple photos showing empty seats after Trump's was to have taken the stage.

"Donald Trump was due onstage in Casper, Wyoming ten minutes ago. Arena is still not at capacity."






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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5188 on: May 29, 2022, 02:00:11 AM »
The Republican Party is the true party of fraud. Republican candidates in Michigan committed fraud. They are also projectionists too. Whatever they accuse someone else of doing it's always them that's doing it.   

GOP election lawyer accuses Michigan Republicans of 'despicable abuse'



After spending years pushing former President Donald Trump's "Big Lie," the Michigan Republican Party is defending its own candidates who were caught up in a massive fraud scheme.

The Michigan Bureau of Elections released a report on Monday recommending that leading Republican gubernatorial candidates James Craig and Perry Johnson, as well as three others, be disqualified from the ballot after submitting too many fake petition signatures. The bureau said it had identified 36 petition circulators who submitted more than 68,000 fake signatures across 10 sets of nominating contests, including the governor's primary. The state Board of Canvassers on Thursday deadlocked on whether to accept or reject the recommendation, effectively leaving in place the bureau's decision to disqualify all five candidates, although Republicans have vowed to challenge the outcome in court.

Republican election attorney John Pirich told Salon that the fraud scheme uncovered by the election officials is "the largest I've ever seen."

"This is of a magnitude beyond my imagination," he said, describing it as the "most despicable abuse of the circulation process that I've ever witnessed."

Despite the Republican Party's years-long campaign to stoke fears of election fraud, the Michigan GOP intervened on behalf of the disqualified candidates. Paul Cordes, chief of staff of the Michigan Republican Party, told the board that disqualifying the candidates over fraudulent petition signatures would disenfranchise voters.

"Disqualifying two of the highest polling candidates in this primary, as well as three others who have expended significant resources in their campaigns, is disenfranchising to Republican voters who ultimately should be the decision-makers," he argued.

Michigan GOP Chairman Ron Weiser also criticized the decision, arguing in a statement that the party was "fighting against voter disenfranchisement."

Pirich, a former assistant state attorney general, refuted the GOP argument, noting that "no one was on the ballot so you're not disenfranchising anyone."

"Most of the people who signed these petitions of the five candidates that were involved in this process weren't real people," he said. "So there's no real legal harm to anyone, in the sense that these weren't real voters. These were fictitious signatures of fraudulent circulators. So that's a bogus argument."

Other Republicans also took issue with the state party's attempt to intervene.

"The Michigan Republican Party candidates ran garbage operations," tweeted Stu Sandler, political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and former executive director of the Michigan GOP. "The fact the Michigan Republican Party is defending all this fraud is embarrassing."

Craig called Thursday's outcome a "travesty" and vowed to file an "immediate appeal" to the courts. An attorney for Johnson said that the process that disqualified him had "fatal flaws that didn't follow election laws."

The candidates and their attorneys argued that they were the victims of the circulators' fraud and that it was the Bureau of Elections' responsibility to prove that every individual signature was fraudulent. The bureau said it has no evidence that the candidates were aware of the fraud but said in its report that it did not fully process all the signatures because it had already identified enough fake ones to put the candidates well short of the 15,000 valid signatures needed to qualify for the ballot.

Republicans on the board sided with the candidates, though it would have required three votes to overturn the Bureau of Elections' recommendation. Republican Chairman Norman Shinkle argued that the circulators "should all go to prison" but said he was "not prepared to shift any burden to the candidates."

Tony Daunt, the other Republican on the board, said there was no question "a widespread and disgraceful effort to defraud the voters of the state has occurred," but insisted that Republican candidates were the real victims.

Though the board has frequently broken down party lines, Pirich said he was surprised by the Republican members' votes because of the "amount of evidence and the detail of the evidence."

"I don't know how anyone in good conscience would say these candidates should be on the ballot when they couldn't do something as fundamental as circulate properly registered voter signatures and turn them in," he said. "I mean, to put them on the ballot would be an insult to the whole process."

Pirich argued that the candidates are responsible for the petition signatures they turn in. "If you hire scum-buckets to do your work, you're gonna get some scum-bucket results and you should be associated with those results," he said.

Craig insisted that he expects to prevail in court. Pirich, however, predicted the candidate would lose his bid to get on the ballot.

"The report of the Board of Canvassers staff was incredibly detailed and legally overcomes any presumption of validity associated with each one of those candidates' petition drives," he said.

The Michigan Democratic Party criticized Republicans on the Board of Canvassers for voting to ignore the evidence of fraud and called on the disqualified Republicans to drop out rather than fight the decision in court.

"Fraud is fraud, and under Michigan law, candidates are required to submit a minimum of 15,000 lawfully collected signatures. They did not meet that requirement," LaVora Barnes, chairwoman of the Michigan Democratic Party, said in a statement. "To keep the integrity of Michigan's democratic process intact, all Republican gubernatorial candidates whose petitions were under consideration at today's meeting should swiftly withdraw from the race. Michiganders deserve accountable leaders, and these candidates have shown they are not capable of that."

https://www.rawstory.com/gop-election-lawyer-accuses-candidates-of-despicable-abuse/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5189 on: May 30, 2022, 11:46:32 AM »
Georgia prosecutor has the goods on Trump to prove election 'criminal intent': former US Attorney



Appearing on MSNBC's "The Katie Phang Show," former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance explained that Georgia prosecutor Fani Willis has a leg up on other investigations into Donald Trump's attempts to steal the 2020 presidential election when it comes to proving the former president knew he was breaking the law.

Asked by MSNBC host Phang what happens now that over 50 witnesses have been subpoenaed, Vance made the point that Willis has a key piece of evidence that could lead to criminal charges.

"She [Willis] is looking into several possible crimes, including fraud and racketeering. What does she need to present to the special grand jury in order to get the indictment returned against Donald Trump?" the MSNBC host asked.

"She'll need what everyone else who is investigating the former president's involvement in election fraud or outright election criminality, and that is proof of the former president's state of mind," Vance replied. "Fani Willis has got a good case walking in the door to that grand jury because she has the tape that you just played where he [Trump] is asking not for an investigation into potential voting fraud, not for a look to see if something went wrong, but asking the [Georgia] secretary of state [Brad Raffensperger] to find the specific number of votes that he needs."

"That is pretty good evidence of criminal intent walking into it," she added. "Now, she will lock down the witnesses and see what else they can do, put some flesh on the bones."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5190 on: May 30, 2022, 11:55:01 PM »
'The most incompetent president in modern history': CNN national security analyst scorches Trump's four years of 'chaos'



In a Memorial Day weekend column for CNN, national security analyst Peter Bergen made a compelling case that, after Donald Trump's four years of "chaos," it can be safely concluded that he was not in any way up to the job of fulfilling the primary duty of a president, which is to protect the safety of all Americans.

According to Bergen, the author of "The Cost of Chaos: The Trump Administration and the World," hints by the former president that he might run again in 2024, combined with polling that shows Republican voters might be willing to give him one more shot, should be of grave concern to Americans still reeling from the Trump years.

Recalling that as Trump left office he proclaimed, "We will be back in some form," Bergen suggested that promise should be considered a threat by critics of the former president, before conceding, "Either way, Trump is, indeed, back."

With that in mind, he made his case that "Trump was the most incompetent President in modern American history."

Calling Trump's tenures a series of "spectacular failures," Bergen said Trump is, in the long run, responsible for the takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban due to his negotiations, paved the way for Russia to invade Ukraine after four years of Trump "undermining" NATO, ignored the military build-up in North Korea while trying to use his "personal charm" on Kim Jong Un, and "...the Iranian nuclear program took a large step forward as a result of Trump's ham-handed approach to the Iranians."

That was just internationally, with Bergen then pointing at how the Trump administration botched the response to COVID-19 in the U.S .

"It was, above all, in his mishandling of the Covid-19 pandemic that Trump revealed his many weaknesses as a leader. First, he never did any homework, meaning his understanding of complex issues, such as how best to mitigate a pandemic, was always cartoonish. Related to Trump's first failing was his second: He always believed he knew more than the experts about any given subject. Third, Trump always trusted his own gut. This was not likely to produce relevant knowledge or coherent policy. And it didn't," he wrote.

Writing, "His weak leadership produced grave results: More than 400,000 Americans died from Covid-19 during Trump's final year in office, which was more than the death toll of all the Americans who had died in wars going back to World War II," Bergen then added, "Many of those deaths could have been avoided with better leadership; Covid mortality in the US was 40% higher than the average of other advanced nations such as Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom, according to a report from the medical journal The Lancet."

"The first duty of the commander in chief is the protection of US citizens, and Trump clearly was derelict in this duty," he wrote before concluding, "In short, Trump was the most incompetent President in modern American history."

You can read his whole piece here: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/28/opinions/donald-trump-chaos-bergen

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5192 on: May 31, 2022, 01:10:22 AM »
This scumbag mangled the names of the children that were murdered in Uvalde school massacre as he read them from a piece of paper at an NRA convention. After each name of the child there was a loud "gong" like a death bell. One of the most despicable acts I've ever witnessed.   

Then after Trump was done disparaging the dead children and their families, he started dancing like a moron to music making a mockery of this entire tragedy. I have never seen anyone as evil, hateful, and deranged as this lowlife psycopath. People all over the world on Twitter have been bashing this monster for his evil act. 

Trump Does a Little Dance at NRA Gun Celebration Days After Uvalde Massacre
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-speech-nra-convention-1360038/

Trump Draws Ire for Dance at NRA Convention After Texas School Shooting
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-draws-ire-dance-nra-convention-after-texas-school-shooting-1711155

Donald Trump slammed for dancing after ‘disingenuously’ reading list of Texas shooting dead
‘The bodies of the children shot dead in Uvalde aren’t even buried yet, and Trump is dancing at an NRA gun celebration’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-slammed-dancing-nra-texas-b2089619.html

The Worst Part of Trump’s Performance at NRA’s Convention Wasn’t When He Read Uvalde Victims’ Names
It was the little dance.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/05/the-worst-part-of-trumps-performance-at-nras-convention-wasnt-when-he-read-uvalde-victims-names/

Donald Trump sparks outrage by DANCING after reading names of 21 Texas shooting victims
Former US President Donald Trump danced to Sam and Dave's 1966 song Hold On, I'm Comin' after reading out the names of the 21 people killed by Salvador Ramos at Robb Elementary School, in Uvalde, Texas
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-sparks-outrage-dances-27088726

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5193 on: May 31, 2022, 01:33:40 AM »
Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns when he rolled back Obama regulation

In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.



August 5, 2019

President Donald Trump responded to the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings by insisting Monday that “mental illness pulls the trigger not the gun,” but shortly after taking office he quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.

Trump did so without any fanfare. In fact, the news that Trump had signed the bill was at the bottom of a White House email that alerted the media to other legislation signed by the president.

And it came after the House and Senate, both of which were Republican-controlled at the time, passed a bill, H.J. Res 40, which revoked the Obama-era regulation. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Sam Johnson, a Texas Republican who retired at the end of 2018.

Pressed by NBC News why Trump nullified the rule, White House spokesman Judd Deere said Tuesday: “This was a wide-ranging regulation promulgated in the 11th hour of the previous administration that included all kinds of people with disabilities who are more than capable of owning a firearm. The rule went too far.”

The latest mass shootings left at least 30 dead and horrified the nation.

In a statement, the National Rifle Association said it "welcomes the President's call to address the root causes of the horrific acts of violence that have occurred in our country."

"It has been the NRA’s long-standing position that those who have been adjudicated as a danger to themselves or others should not have access to firearms and should be admitted for treatment," it said.

But two years ago, the NRA insisted the Obama rule infringed on Second Amendment rights to buy guns, even though the regulation specifically targeted people who were diagnosed with mental illness.

The NRA “applauded” Trump’s action at the time and then-executive director Chris Cox said the move “marks a new era for law-abiding gun owners, as we now have a president who respects and supports our arms.”

The Obama rule that Trump nullified had added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had that rule taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added 75,000 names to the national background check database.

Obama had recommended the regulation after the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 20 first-graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., a leading gun control advocate in Congress, denounced Trump in 2017 for getting rid of the Obama restrictions and blasted the GOP.

"Republicans always say we don’t need new gun laws, we just need to enforce the laws already on the books,” he said in a statement. “But the bill signed into law today undermines enforcement of existing laws that Congress passed to make sure the background check system had complete information.”

Groups like the National Alliance of Mental Illness have accused the Trump Administration of rolling back other Obama-era policies designed to help the mentally ill.

"In the U.S., it is easier to get a gun than it is to get mental health," said Angela Kimball, NAMI's acting CEO. "We need to flip the script. It should be easy — not hard — for people to get the mental health care they need."

Meanwhile, mental health experts accused Trump of focusing on mental illness to avoid taking politically risky steps like banning high-powered weapons like the ones that were used in the El Paso and Dayton massacres.

“These events are tragic, but are not predictable because many people have the propensity to perpetrate mayhem,” said Linda Teplin, a professor of psychiatry at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. “They must have the weapons, not only the inclination. We are complicit because we make rifles with high capacity magazines available to all.”

The Newtown Action Alliance said the president's comments are an attempt to deflect from real change.

"If the president truly believed that those with mental illness should not have access to weapons of war, he would not have reversed Obama's executive order to remove social security recipients with mental illness from the NICS background system," Po Murray, Chairwoman, Newtown Action Alliance said in a statement. "But the fact is that only 4 percent of violent crimes are committed by those with mental illness. Donald Trump continues to push the NRA rhetoric that scapegoats mental illness in an effort to deflect from the real issue ... the dire lack of common-sense legislation that could end the epidemic of gun violence in our country."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-trump-made-it-easier-mentally-ill-get-guns-when-n1039301