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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4746 on: February 28, 2022, 03:59:42 PM »
Trump Praises Putin’s "Genius" and "Savvy" as Ukraine Crisis Worsens: A Closer Look


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4747 on: February 28, 2022, 04:32:15 PM »
Trump has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation in Ukraine.  He is not the President.  Our President is on vacation in Delaware.  Trump has condemned the invasion of Ukraine in no uncertain terms.  This fixation on Trump is downright bizarre.  There was no invasion or new war during Trump's administration.  That is simply a fact.  Trump has used praise as an effective tactic in dealing with Russia.  Only fanatics believe that words matter more than results. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4748 on: February 28, 2022, 11:52:06 PM »
This is the garbage you hear in the right wing media. Unanimous praise of their cult leader Donald Trump as they attempt to blame everybody else for his failures with bogus conspiracies and talking points. The gullible sheep eat it up and parrot this nonsense non stop all over the internet. The fact is these right wingers are praising an evil murderous dictator and this Kremlin propaganda is being played on Russian state television as a justification for Putin's illegal invasion. Don't let Comrade Carlson and Comrade Trump try to distance themselves from their pro Putin stance as backlash across the world continues against both of them. Pretending to walk back their pro Putin and anti American rhetoric after worldwide condemnation isn't going to work. They are on video praising Putin more than once and Comrade Carlson does that on a nightly basis. Not one credible national security expert agrees with this right wing Kremlin propaganda in this article.         

Tucker Carlson leads rightwing charge to blame everyone but Putin
The Fox News host has defended the Russian leader’s invasion of Ukraine, saying ‘Has Putin ever called me a racist?’



As Russian troops encircled Ukraine, politicians and media pundits in the US were largely united in their condemnation of Vladimir Putin’s imminent attack.

Tucker Carlson, however, took a different approach. Hours before Putin ordered his forces into Ukraine, Fox News’ biggest star was still praising the Russian president.

Putin’s bellicose threats towards Ukraine and assembling of up to 190,000 troops on the country’s border, was, Carlson said, a mere “border dispute”. Carlson, who played into Kremlin talking points by declaring that Ukraine was “not a democracy”, launched an apparent attempt to humanize Putin.

“Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia?” Carlson said as he then recited a rightwing tip sheet of pet causes.

“Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity?”

Just over 24 hours later, Putin effectively declared war on Ukraine.

Carlson was roundly condemned, but he wasn’t alone. Steve Bannon, Donald Trump’s sometime adviser turned podcast host, has praised Putin for being “anti-woke”, for not flying pride flags, and for his hostility to trans people.

Charlie Kirk, a rightwing media personality and the founder of Turning Points USA, suggested Putin felt emboldened by “energy policies that Joe Biden put forward”.

“Could it be that Greta Thunberg and Leonardo DiCaprio actually might be to blame for what Vladimir Putin is doing?” Kirk asked on his eponymous internet show.

“That’s a take you will not hear anywhere else,” he added.

By the end of the week Carlson’s colorful defense of Putin was being played on Russia 1 and the Kremlin-backed RT television network.

“As Russia prepared to invade Ukraine, the biggest star on Fox News was busy doing what he does best: being thoroughly and appallingly wrong,” Margaret Sullivan, a media columnist for the Washington Post, wrote.

By Thursday night, after Putin’s forces had begun bombing Ukraine, and after widespread US and global outrage at the carnage, Carlson had changed his tune.

“I don’t think anybody approves of what Putin did yesterday. I certainly don’t,” he said on his show.

Carlson added: “Vladimir Putin started this war.” He continued: “He is to blame tonight for what we’re seeing tonight in the Ukraine.”

But those expecting a mea culpa from Carlson, who has recently also become enamored with the authoritarian regime of Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, were disappointed.

The overt praise for Putin may have receded, but Carlson and his Fox News co-hosts and pundits have continued to blame others for the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

“Well, I think we all know if Donald Trump were president, this would not have happened,” Lara Trump, Fox News contributor and daughter-in-law of the former president, told Fox and Friends on Thursday.

“We exuded strength on the world stage when Donald Trump was there. Now you see Joe Biden in office. And gosh, how many times have we all talked about how weak America has looked since the day that Joe Biden was inaugurated?”

Fox News Twitter feed on Friday essentially served as a tribute to the same viewpoint, lavishly quoting almost identical statements from Republican senators Lindsey Graham and Marsha Blackburn.

“Rather than blame the actual aggressor for attacking his weaker neighbor, right-wing media pinned the blame on Biden for supposedly projecting weakness and vulnerability to Putin,” Media Matters, a non-profit which monitors conservative media, wrote.

“In the right-wing media echo chamber [...] the fault for this invasion lies with a mind-boggling variety of scapegoats, including Joe Biden, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, American environmentalists, the LGBTQ community, and even the team here at Media Matters for America - anybody, that is, other than Putin.”

The narrative has received some pushback from journalists at Fox News itself, particularly Jennifer Griffin, the network’s national security correspondent, who has spent weeks painstakingly correcting her opinion-host colleagues as Russia surrounded Ukraine.

On Thursday morning, the anchors on the morning show Fox and Friends were opining about how sanctions against Russia “have not worked”. Steve Doocy asked Griffin if “the people at the Pentagon” were frustrated given American troops were not involved.

“No, I wouldn’t say that, Steve. In fact they know that they had limited options going into this because Russia of course is a nuclear power, and Nato and the US are not going to go to war with Russia over Ukraine, their goal is to contain this and keep this from spilling over into an article 5 nation,” Griffin said.

“You talk about how the sanctions haven’t worked, I don’t know that we can say that yet. Overnight, the stock market in Russia fell by half, 50%.

“This is just the beginning of what is being described as a ‘shock and awe,’ if you will, of rolling sanctions that have not even begun to be felt yet by Putin, by his oligarchs, by the cronies there.”

The talk and tone among the hosts of Fox News and others in the right-wing media ecosystem is unlikely to change any time soon. But in some corners there are journalists willing to drag those hosts back to reality.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/25/tucker-carlson-fox-news-russia-putin

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4749 on: March 01, 2022, 12:03:41 AM »
Even Trump stooge Chris Christie is bashing Donnie for praising Putin. Only the die hard cult members continue to worship Donnie and sing Putin's praises, but these degenerates are just a small minority of the population. The rest of the weak GOP stays silent as usual as their leader praises Putin. The GOP is too weak to lead and can't even stand up for American values and for Ukraine.   

Chris Christie levels Trump for calling Putin a 'genius' for disastrous Ukraine invasion



Estranged Trump ally Chris Christie on Monday slammed the former president for declaring that Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine was a stroke of "genius" when by all accounts it has so far been a disaster for Russia.

"How can anyone with any understanding of the world call Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine 'genius' and 'very savvy' as we watch him unite the rest of the world against Russia in nearly an instant?" Christie asked on Twitter.

The former New Jersey governor then outlined how Putin had gotten himself into a geopolitical mess from which there would likely be no recovery.

"Putin has two choices now: an unwinnable occupation of Ukraine after leveling the country and murdering its hero President (if that is even achievable) or a humiliating retreat," Christie wrote. "Yeah, that’s 'genius' and 'very savvy' alright. No walking that back. History is watching."

Trump has continued to heap praise on Putin for his Ukraine invasion even as it has been condemned by the vast majority of Republican lawmakers.

Despite this, virtually no Republicans other than Christie and Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) have been willing to publicly call Trump out on it.

https://www.rawstory.com/chris-christie-trump-2656809940/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4750 on: March 01, 2022, 01:40:16 AM »
GOP Sen. Tom Cotton won't condemn Trump's praise of Putin
Trump called Putin "smart" and his actions "genius" and "savvy."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-tom-cotton-condemn-trumps-praise-putin/story?id=83130202

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4751 on: March 01, 2022, 02:38:47 AM »
GOP Sen. Tom Cotton won't condemn Trump's praise of Putin
Trump called Putin "smart" and his actions "genius" and "savvy."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-tom-cotton-condemn-trumps-praise-putin/story?id=83130202

There are a lot of evil geniuses in history.  Trump does this to manipulate Putin.  And it works like a charm since the Russians did not invade Ukraine during his administration (as opposed to Obama and Biden).  Results matter.   Trump has condemned the invasion.   You know that but it doesn't suit your desired narrative.  Meanwhile Biden took the weekend off.

"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4752 on: March 01, 2022, 04:34:00 AM »