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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4571 on: February 01, 2022, 01:24:33 AM »
Criminal Donald knows he is going down for ALL his crimes especially attempting to steal an election from the people of Georgia. That's why he called on his thugs to unleash more violence.   

Atlanta FBI says it’s gathering info on potential Trump-inspired threats against Fulton County DA



Former President Donald Trump called on his rally audience in Conroe, Texas Saturday to stage mass protests if he's charged with crimes out of New York, Atlanta or Washington, D.C. -- and then went on to tell his audience that he may pardon anyone associated with Jan. 6 if he's elected again in 2024.

Given his comments at the Jan. 6 rally that led to the battle at the Capitol and attacks on the 2020 election, law enforcement is taking Trump's call seriously.

NBC News Ken Dilanian tweeted Monday afternoon that the Atlanta FBI office is monitoring Trump-inspired threats to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who has already asked the FBI for added security out of fear of retribution on her office over her investigations into the former president.

As we do in the normal course of business, we are gathering information to identify any potential threats and are sharing that information with our partners," the FBI office said.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-violence-threats-atlanta-fbi/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4572 on: February 01, 2022, 03:45:25 AM »
Marc Short is a 'critical witness' to Trump pressuring Pence to overturn the election: Jamie Gangel



On CNN Monday, correspondent Jamie Gangel reported on a key new member of Mike Pence's inner circle giving information to the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 Capitol attack — and why it matters.

"We have learned former Vice President Mike Pence's former chief of staff Marc Short had gone in," said Gangel. "He went in person to testify to the January 6th committee. I am told he spoke at length — just for clarity, just remember that he was under subpoena, and I am also told that any documents he handed over were under subpoena."

Gangel then relayed just how important Short's testimony could be to the committee given his proximity to Pence throughout nearly all relevant events leading up to and during January 6th.

"I think it is important to remind people Marc Short is a firsthand fact witness," added Gangel. "He was in the Oval Office with Vice President Pence when President Trump was pressuring Pence to overturn the election. He was also with him up on Capitol Hill when the rioters broke in and were yelling 'Hang Mike Pence," he's a critical witness for the committee because he can really tell them what was going on in the Oval Office and what then-President Trump was trying to do."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4573 on: February 01, 2022, 07:17:03 AM »
Lock Him Up! Donnie looks very worried in this photo. He knows the walls are closing in on him. 

Trump achieved a 'trifecta' of self-incrimination with his weekend rally rant: George Conway



Anti-Trump conservative lawyer George Conway joined former federal prosecutor Joyce White Vance on MSNBC Monday to discuss former President Donald Trump's admission that he wanted Vice President Mike Pence to "overturn" the results of the 2020 election.

"Every so often, when it comes to his bad intent, he tells the truth," Conway told CNN Monday morning. "He wanted to end constitutional democracy in the United States. And he's just out and out admitting it now."

When speaking to MSNBC, Conway noted that not only is Trump saying the quiet part out loud, he's providing evidence to prosecutors as to intent and motive behind his actions as well as admitting to crimes themselves.

"What he did over the weekend was kind of a trifecta going to his intent," Conway explained. "By offering pardons or suggestions -- to pardon the people who committed violent acts on Jan. 6, he's demonstrating again that he proved the actions were consistent with the reports that he was watching with glee and it adds to the case that he was actually intending to foment violence that day. His statements that he tried to fix the election and that he was trying to get [Mike] Pence to overturn the election, go to the intent there about what he was trying to do, which goes to the corrupt way that he was acting, with a corrupt motive to try to interfere with a congressional proceeding."

Conway went on to explain that Trump proved it was his motive, to use threats of violence or to incite violence to coerce government officials to side-step the law and place him in as the president even though he lost.

Vance said that there has been enough "bending over backward to give the former president the benefit of the doubt." Over the weekend, Trump made a direct threat to the cities he cited in the Saturday speech.

Trump "doesn't play games when it comes to his intent," she also explained. "And this is all about what his intent was, whether it is the element that prosecutors have to prove to time up to the insurrection or what he intends to do going forward. He has made very clear statements. This is a man who asks people to violently protest from his own rally. This is not a call from the former president for peaceful protest. This is a call from the former president for more of the same. There have been more consequences, at least for him personally for Jan. 6. As long as there are no consequences, he will feel free to continue on that same trajectory."

In the days that followed the riots, Trump delivered a speech that MSNBC host Chris Hayes described as a typical politician speech saying that it was wrong to enact violence.

Now, Trump is making it clear that he wants more of it.

"That is what he is doing!" Conway agreed. "He is saying that Nov. 3 was the real insurrection. He is praising the people, as he initially wanted to do. He is praising the people who did with they did on Jan. 6. He is back to the mode that he expressed that day when he said, this is what happens when a free and fair election is stolen. He wanted these people to do what they did. And they did what they thought he wanted them to do. That is what they are telling courts when they're getting sentenced."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4574 on: February 01, 2022, 07:23:06 AM »
Multiple Trump White House Jan. 6 documents were 'torn up' and had to be reassembled with tape



The National Archives has revealed that it received several January 6th-related documents from the Trump White House that were ripped into pieces and were reassembled using tape.

As the Washington Post reports, the National Archives said on Monday that included among the records it has handed over to the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th riots on the United States Capitol are "paper records that had been torn up by former President Trump."

Trump was notorious for ripping up paper records in his White House, as he apparently did not like having written records of his actions.

This forced aides on multiple occasions to pick up the pieces of the records as put them back together with tape, as the destroyed records are required by law to be preserved under the Presidential Records Act.

The Post reports that it's not clear what January 6th-related documents Trump tore up, but it notes that the records he sought to assert privilege over "presidential diaries, schedules, appointment information, handwritten notes concerning the events of Jan. 6 from White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, speeches, remarks, and more."

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/31/trump-ripped-up-documents/


'We don't have to imagine this could turn violent': Jake Tapper grills former Trump adviser over latest rants

CNN's Jake Tapper on Monday grilled former Trump campaign adviser David Urban about the former president's calls for mass protests if he eventually gets indicted on any number of potential criminal charges.

After playing a clip of Trump at his rally calling for "the biggest protest we have ever had," Tapper turned to Urban and asked why no one was intervening to tell the former president that such statements are bad ideas.

"David, we don't have to imagine that it could turn violent," Tapper said. "We have January 6th to remember. Does he not have anyone around him saying stop?"

Urban responded by generally condemning violence without addressing the substance of Tapper's question.

"Obviously people are free to show up and express their opinions," he said. "It's guaranteed in the First Amendment. You can show up and petition the government for redressing grievances, super important. So people are allowed to do exactly that. Obviously, crossing over into violence is never acceptable and should be condemned strongly."

Former Trump aide Alyssa Farah, who was also on the panel, said she was not hopeful about Trump changing.

"He should be disavowing and walking away from January 6th," she said. "We've seen this last the five years. He's going to do what he wants to do if he feels cornered."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4575 on: February 01, 2022, 07:28:38 AM »
Bombshell report says Trump 'directed' Rudy Giuliani to call DHS and ask about seizing voting machines



An  explosive new report from the New York Times claims that former President Donald Trump "directed" one-time attorney Rudy Giuliani to call the Department of Homeland Security and enquire about seizing voting machines.

Giuliani followed through with Trump's request, only to be informed that DHS lacked the legal authority to seize the machines.

The request to Giuliani came after Trump allies Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell pushed him to order the American military to seize the machines, a move that Giuliani "vehemently opposed," according to the Times' sources.

Specifically, Giuliani told Trump that he should not use the military unless there was clear-cut evidence of foreign interference in the election, which Powell insisted that she had obtained even though multiple courts determined that she had not.

Trump ultimately heeded Giuliani's advice and did not sign the order.

In addition enquiring about DHS seizing the machines, Trump also reportedly asked then-Attorney General Bill Barr about the Department of Justice impounding them, which Barr immediately shot down.

The Times writes that this new information shows "that Mr. Trump was more directly involved than previously known in exploring proposals to use his national security agencies to seize voting machines as he grasped unsuccessfully for evidence of fraud that would help him reverse his defeat in the 2020 election."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/us/politics/donald-trump-election-results-fraud-voting-machines.html


There was more than one executive order Trump's team crafted to seize voting machines: CNN

In an exclusive report Monday, CNN.com revealed that there was more than one executive order prepared by allies of former President Donald Trump to seize voting machines.

The effort was part of a plan by Ret. Col. Phil Waldron and Ret. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, sources told CNN, who were both big backers of Trump's false claims about the election being stolen.

Sources explained that there was more than one draft, which was exposed as part of the documents given to the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6 original.

"Any operation for the military or federal agents to seize voting equipment for political purposes would have been unprecedented in US history," said CNN in the report.

READ MORE: Trump achieved a 'trifecta' of self-incrimination with his weekend rally rant: George Conway

It's unknown who drafted the orders, but it was an issue that Flynn and former Trump attorney Sidney Powell were promoting at the time. According to 2020 reports, a screaming match broke out in the Oval Office about the ideas of proposing martial law and naming Powell as a special counsel to investigate the 2020 election.

"The House committee is now looking into the effort to draft an executive order and how it began, including the roles of Flynn, Waldron and Powell as well as another Trump attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and Bernie Kerik, who worked alongside Giuliani after the election to find any evidence of voter fraud," writes CNN.

"It's an extraordinary document, and we have a lot of questions about it," said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA).

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/31/politics/trump-executive-orders-seize-voting-machines/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4576 on: February 01, 2022, 02:42:01 PM »
Trump directing racist threats against prosecutors is part of his 'fascist insurgency'



MSNBC's Joe Scarborough expressed alarm at the threats Donald Trump directed at the Black prosecutors who are investigating his fraudulent activities.

Fani Willis, the district attorney who's investigating Trump's efforts to undo his election loss there, has asked the FBI for help securing her office, and "Morning Joe" panelists agreed the threats had been provoked by the twice-impeached one-term president.

"We have seen the former president inspire violence, no moment more obviously than Jan. 6," said MSNBC's Jonathan Lemire. "He is, when he talks like this, there are people who listen and respond to it. What we're seeing here is an unprecedented step. As we know, when he was president he didn't like a news story because it was negative, he would call it fake news. Here he is suggesting that any investigation into him must be illegal."

"Now he has added the idea it must be racist because so many of the prosecutors involved are African American," Lemire added. "He's trying to delegitimize this. Again, I don't think we can overlook the idea of linking the Jan. 6 pardons comes at the same time he is calling for the mass demonstrations where it almost seems like, 'Hey, a quid pro -- could you go out there and protest for me, if things get violent, well, if I am elected again I will pardon you. We are sort of at an ominous new place with his rhetoric here, and it is no surprise. I doubt the prosecutor in Atlanta will be the only one who has to increase security as a direct result of what the former president is saying."

Scarborough said the racist element to the threats was particularly ominous, given the former president's history.

"How telling that Donald Trump, a guy who really leads an ethno-nationalist, some would say a fascist insurgency against the United States, is deeply offended by a Black woman daring to investigate whether he broke the law or not, trying to rig the election in Georgia and telling the secretary of state to find votes after the election was over," Scarborough said.



Trump's vote-stealing scheme so corrupt even 'loathsome' Bill Barr refused to participate



MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said Donald Trump's scheme to steal the 2020 election was so corrupt that even "loathsome" William Barr refused to go along.

New reporting shows the twice-impeached one-term president was personally involved in a months-long scheme to seize voting machines, although Barr and other high-ranking federal officials refused to act and Trump was eventually swept out of office.

"I'm looking at Barr's role in all of this," Scarborough said. "He is a fascinating character, fascinating storyline. He was a guy who was basically tapped by official Washington as being, you know, sort of having the 'Good Housekeeping seal of approval' before he went in as Trump's head of DOJ, his attorney general."

"Then he went in and official Washington was shocked," Scarborough added. "He lied about the Mueller report, he misrepresented the Mueller report. He conspired with Donald Trump to break the wall down between the White House and the Department of Justice. He committed perjury in front of, I think, the Senate and the House on numerous occasions. He just behaved just in a loathsome way for much of his tenure."

But even Barr had his limits, apparently.

"Then around election time he had enough and he basically punched his ticket and he said, 'I've done my duty, I'm getting out of here,'" Scarborough said. "It's fascinating that in the final month or so it was actually Barr that was putting up roadblocks every step of the way, saying no to a president trying to steal an election."


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4577 on: February 01, 2022, 02:47:24 PM »
Demand to seize voting machines 'brings it closer to Trump': Reporter says of election overthrow attempt



Reporter Ashley Parker said that the bombshell reporting from the New York Times brings the attempt to overthrow the election even closer to former President Donald Trump. Others, however, are claiming that this is just part of the narrative that is already known but not fully acknowledged by the Republican Party.

Speaking to "The 11th Hour" on Monday, Parker told Ali Velshi, "we knew there were some of these order ideas floating around." Trump staff had crafted two different executive orders that would have given the DOD the power to seize the voting machines from states that Trump took issue with.

"You couldn't tell how close to the president got, although there was still a sense that these were all people trying to please Trump and do his bidding, in a chaotic Trump White House briefing books were not always read," Parker explained. "A bit more information bringing it closer to Trump himself. But I have to say, to echo you, it's not surprising at all. Former President Trump is someone who asked the secretary of state to find the exact number of votes that would flip the states to him. This is someone who at his rally this past week, basically signaled that he would potentially pardon all the insurrectionists and that they were treated unfairly. In that same context urged supporters to protest like they've never protested before. If you keep in mind how they protested before with the deadly insurrection on the U.S. Capitol, This is a president who after he lost the free and fair election, wanted to do everything he possibly could to hang on to power with just about every means possible. The story is another bit in that broader cannon."

Sam Stein explained that it only confirms what was known about Trump's desperation to use the military to overturn the election. Finally, he called on Rudy Giuliani to push Ken Cuccinelli on the effort, but there was no chance.

"The bottom line is this is all stuff that Donald Trump is still talking about — he talked about it last night in Texas, he talked about it on Saturday night, he's not creating a lot of space between himself and its narrative," Stein explained.

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