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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4522 on: January 06, 2022, 02:42:48 PM »
Biden's January 6 speech to focus on Trump's 'singular responsibility' in the insurrection
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/politics/january-6-anniversary/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4523 on: January 07, 2022, 01:38:58 AM »
Lindsey Graham busted by CNN analyst after he attacks Biden's Jan. 6 speech



Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) lashed out at Joe Biden on Thursday after the president delivered a speech to the nation on the anniversary of the Capitol insurrection inspired by former president Donald Trump.

Following Biden's speech where he stated, "Here is the God's truth about Jan. 6, 2021. Close your eyes, go back to that day, what do you see? Confederate flag that symbolizes the cause to destroy America, to rip us apart. Even during the Civil War that never, ever happened, but it happened here, in 2021, before adding, "We didn't see a former president, who had just rallied the mob to attack, sitting in a private dining room off the oval office in the White House, watching it all on television and doing nothing for hours as police were assaulted, lives at risk. The nation's Capitol under siege," the South Carolina Republican jumped on Twitter to complain about the speech.

"What brazen politicization of January 6 by President Biden," he wrote before adding, "I wonder if the Taliban who now rule Afghanistan with al-Qaeda elements present, contrary to President Biden’s beliefs, are allowing this speech to be carried?"

CNN's Kasie Hunt a was quick to respond with a retweet where she added, "From the senator who, a year ago today, watched what happened at the Capitol and declared: 'Enough is enough.'"

NBC's Garrett Haake piled on by tweeting the clip that Hunt references where Graham declared, "Trump and I, we’ve had a hell of a journey. I hate it to end this way. Oh my God, I hate it. From my point of view, he’s been a consequential president, but today, first thing you’ll see. All I can say is count me out. Enough is enough."

You can see their tweets and few from other critics of Graham below:
https://www.rawstory.com/lindsey-graham-responds-biden-jan-6-speech/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4524 on: January 07, 2022, 01:48:44 AM »
Yes, Criminal Donald is a loser and he tried to steal the election because he can't handle losing. He also knew by being out of office that he would be prosecuted and imprisoned for his all his financial crimes so he did everything he could possibly do to illegally stay in power. President Biden called Criminal Donald a loser and that is a fact.

This Is the Day That Joe Biden Became President
He marked the anniversary of Jan. 6 by calling the former president who still hasn’t accepted his loss a liar and a loser. It’s about time.
 


In what may be the most powerful speech of his presidency, Joe Biden commemorated the one-year anniversary of the January 6 riot in the U.S. Capitol not just by condemning the violence and defending democracy, but by calling Donald Trump a loser.

“He’s not just a former president. He’s a defeated former president,” Biden said, twisting the knife in his conquered rival. “Because his bruised ego matters more to him than our democracy, or our Constitution…he can’t accept he lost.”

Too harsh? I don’t think so. It was, to borrow a phrase from an American winner, “altogether fitting and proper,” since the Capitol insurrection was the result of Trump’s big lie about the 2020 election having been stolen. Give Biden credit for going straight to the root of the problem. Trump didn’t just incite the mob on Jan. 6, he did so after pouring gasoline for months with his bogus “Stop the Steal” rhetoric.

That’s not to say that Biden merely engaged in petty bullying or name calling (indeed, Biden never uttered the former’s president’s name) at the expense of his moral authority. In my estimation, he struck the perfect balance. To borrow a ridiculous line sometimes invoked about the previous guy, This is the day that Biden became president.

It was serious, but not whiny. And he didn’t just mock Trump for losing. "You can’t love your country only when you win. You can’t obey the law only when it’s convenient. You can’t be patriotic when you embrace and enable lies,” Biden said. "Those who stormed this Capitol, and those who instigated and incited, and those who called on them to do so held a dagger at the throat of America.”

Liberals, of late, talk a lot about defending democracy, and this is a very valid and important thing to do. Unfortunately, in this environment, it can also come across as preachy, alarmist, and even weak (this was the same problem liberals faced in the 1930s, when they looked weak and impotent in the face of more dynamic and energetic fascist leaders).

That’s why it’s so important that Biden took the fight to Trump. Bill Clinton famously said that “strong and wrong beats weak and right.” Clinton was correct—and this lesson was especially important for liberals to learn. In this case, Biden has the benefit of being strong and right.

Of course, sometimes actions have unintended consequences, and we should acknowledge that possibility here. One potential downside of Biden’s tough talk could be baiting Trump into running again in 2024 (if he wasn’t already planning to do so). It was Barack Obama’s mockery at a White House Correspondents Dinner, after all, that apparently motivated Trump to run the first time.

But I think this is different. That was frivolous; Obama didn’t take Trump seriously. With Biden, this is a calculated decision, based on a realization that ignoring Trump will not cause him to go away, and ignoring Trump’s lies only gives them space to take root.

Let’s be honest. Biden did win. And I don’t just mean that Biden got the most votes, but also that he defeated Trump. That he prevailed. That he’s a winner. That he made Trump a loser.

And the fact that the very same people who fetishize winning and winners are willing to (with apologies to General Patton) “tolerate a loser” only makes sense in a world where the same people who call people “cucks” really are cucks.

The contrast between the winner and the loser was highlighted today in another way. ​​As you might recall, Trump was going to speak today, then he decided not to, and then he issued a weak statement. Who looks stronger, the guy who gives a big speech at the Capitol or the guy who hems and haws before issuing a press release about it?

In his statement, Trump referred to the speech as “political theater” to distract from Biden’s failures as a president. Trump and I largely agree on Biden’s tenure as president. However, Biden is the president, and the sooner all Americans acknowledge this fact, the sooner we can all move on to criticizing Biden’s many failed policies.

Maybe Biden should have given a speech like this sooner, but I am sympathetic to why he didn’t. First off, end-zone dancing is unbecoming in a confident leader. After all, Trump was clearly defeated, and one might assume that the fact that this was self-evident would mean that Biden shouldn’t have to remind everyone.

Second, the rule about wrestling with a pig applies: It’s hard to win a gutter war against Trump, and even if you do you’ll be covered in filth.

This brings us to the final reason: Biden’s desire to be a uniter. Upon winning, you should govern “with malice toward none.” For a president who hopes to win re-election, this is both generous and politically necessary.

But here’s the thing: Trump’s fans see this as a war against an evil enemy, not an election among Americans. The MAGA forces lost at the polls in 2020, but they’re refusing to surrender.

Preserving liberal democracy is a daily battle, and, it turns out, so is establishing the fact that the 2020 election was decided legitimately. For now, at least, the two things go hand in hand. If you were hoping today was a day about bringing closure to a horrific event, think again.

To borrow another phrase from an American winner, it ain’t over till it’s over.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-is-the-day-that-joe-biden-became-president

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4525 on: January 07, 2022, 04:46:22 AM »
Donnie had another meltdown today. A total loser who needs to be put in an insane asylum where he can rant like a loon to himself.     

Trump melts down over Biden's 'very hurtful' Jan. 6 speech and continues to spread election lies



Still banned from social media for spreading lies about the 2020 presidential election that inspired an insurrection, former president Donald Trump repeatedly blasted reporters with statements on Thursday as the country marked the one-year anniversary of the attempted coup.

First Trump issued a statement saying America has lost its confidence. After President Joe Biden addressed the nation on the Jan. 6 insurrection, Trump released a statement saying it was "just a distraction." His third statement called Biden a failure and spread his debunked lie that the election was rigged.

His fourth statement revealed that how he thought the speech made people feel.

"To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people," Trump said, potentially referring to himself.

He then repeated the lies that incited his supporters to attack the Capitol.

"They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election," Trump falsely claimed.

Biden pointing out Trump "spread a web of lies about the 2020 election" appeared to anger the former real estate developer.

"They spread a 'web of lies' about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too," Trump said.

He went on to allege that "Big Tech was used illegally," that ballots were sold for $10 in Georgia, and that gas costs $5 a gallon.

Watch video in link below:
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-biden-insurrection/


IN OTHER NEWS: Former Trump admin officials band together to block their former boss from holding office again.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4526 on: January 10, 2022, 03:17:22 AM »
 Just curious what the take is on Trump having signed the request for the National guard troops on Jan 4th? Am I to fear the Joe six packs of the world more than rapidly consolidating corporate and elite power I know the MSM would like us to think so
« Last Edit: January 10, 2022, 03:20:12 AM by Matt Grantham »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4527 on: January 24, 2022, 04:16:08 AM »
A Coup in Plain Sight (A Meidas Original Short)

This is a coup in plain sight. History will judge where we stand in this moment. Which side are you on?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4528 on: January 24, 2022, 03:20:49 PM »
Trump's acts of 'outright illegality' on full display in Georgia investigation: conservative attorney



In a column for the Atlantic, former attorney and conservative political commentator David French claimed that, if people are looking for criminal charges to be filed against Donald Trump, they should be keeping their eyes on the state of Georgia.

According to the longtime political commentator, the written request by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis for a special grand jury to hear testimony and information on the attempt to overturn Georgia's election results in 2020 can only bolster a very strong case based on information that has already been released.

As French wrote, "With this letter, Willis brought back to the fore the actions surrounding the 2020 election contest by former President Donald Trump that are most suspect under both state and federal criminal law. The district attorney seeks a special grand jury with good reason, as Trump appears to have crossed the line into outright illegality, and that behavior merits a serious and thorough criminal investigation."

French noted that the public's attention has mostly rested on the Jan 6th House committee investigating the former president's part in fomenting an insurrection and stopping the certification of Joe Biden as the new president, before pointing out there is a clearer case playing out in Georgia.

"Georgia’s relevant criminal-solicitation statute is also both straightforward and deeply problematic for Trump. Its first provision states: 'A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct," French wrote before adding, "And what is the precise violation of Georgia election law that Trump was conspiring to commit and soliciting others to commit? His demands implicate a number of laws, but among the most applicable is Georgia Code Section 21-2-566, which prohibits willfully tampering 'with any electors list, voter’s certificate, numbered list of voters, ballot box, voting machine, direct recording electronic (DRE) equipment, electronic ballot marker, or tabulating machine.'"

Listing off a host of other laws that the former president appears to have run roughshod over, French concluded, "For a sitting American president to seek to engineer a coup is unprecedented, but our law contains ample precedents that punish other citizens for similar misconduct. The law is not just for the little people. Trump is not a king. He does not enjoy sovereign immunity. He is presently nothing more than a private citizen, and if President Trump broke the law, then Citizen Trump should face the consequences."

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-georgia-2656459348/