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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4284 on: November 03, 2021, 02:12:00 AM »

You can't make this stuff up. The GOP has turned into a deranged conspiracy cult believing in pure delusion.

Photos show QAnon believers gathering in Dallas -- where they believe JFK Jr. will reveal he's still alive
https://www.rawstory.com/qanon-jfk-jr/

They believe that JFK and Jackie and JFK Jr. will all appear in Dealey Plaza. And declare Trump as President. Apparently, Trump will not be reinstated as President by the Supreme Court, as Mike Lindell has been predicting, but by a higher court, the Kennedys.

Maybe they made a mistake. Dealey Plaza was a logical place to assemble. But maybe they should have assembled on a boat off Massachusetts.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4285 on: November 04, 2021, 10:23:31 PM »
Manhattan DA convenes new grand jury for Trump Organization case -- and fresh charges may be coming



The Manhattan District Attorney's office is convening a new grand jury related to its probe of the Trump Organization, thus opening up the possibility for new charges against the former president's company.

The Washington Post reports that the new grand jury was seated last week and is "expected to meet three days a week over six months," where it will hear evidence of potential criminal wrongdoing at the Trump Organization.

And earlier grand jury convened by the Manhattan DA charged Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg with committing tax fraud.

As to what issues the grand jury will be deliberating, the Post's sources say that is "was expected to examine how former president Donald Trump's company valued its assets," which the paper notes "appears to be a separate issue than the one described in indictments from the first grand jury, which has dealt with allegations that Weisselberg and other Trump executives evaded taxes on their pay by systematically hiding some of their compensation from the IRS."

Former Trump fixer Michael Cohen testified before Congress in 2019 that Trump would deliberately manipulate the values of his assets to score more favorable tax treatments.

https://www.rawstory.com/manhattan-da-trump-organization/

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4286 on: November 05, 2021, 03:20:24 AM »
'Potentially much more serious': CNN legal analyst breaks down new probe into Trump Organization

The Manhattan District Attorney's Office has convened a second grand jury in its investigation of the Trump Organization, and CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it appears as though investigators are looking into something that could implicate former President Donald Trump.

Toobin began by explaining that the criminal case against Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg seems like an effort to get him to flip on his longtime boss rather than directly press charges on Trump himself.

"The Weisselberg case is really a small potatoes case," he said. "It is very bad news for Weisselberg personally, but the amounts of money it issued, the kinds of crime, paying for a car and not paying taxes on it, paying for tuition at his grandchildren's school, not paying taxes on it -- it is a criminal case but it is certainly not one that really implicates the former president."

Turning his attention to the new grand jury probe, however, Toobin argued that it's much more potentially perilous for Trump.

"The investigation of the double booking -- you know, giving one valuation to tax authorities, one valuation to banks -- that's a potentially much more serious case, also one that potentially implicates the former president," he said.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4287 on: November 05, 2021, 03:23:11 AM »
MAGA rioters used fluorescent noose to 'send a message' that they 'wanted to kill': Historian



Capitol rioters deliberately used a bright orange rope to construct a noose outside the Capitol on Jan. 6, according to one Black historian.

"Why not pick the color white, which is more common among rope?" Morgan State University's Raymond Winbush told WUSA 9 investigative reporter Scott MacFarlane.

"Lynching was a public spectacle," said Winbush, who serves as director of Morgan State's Institute for Urban Research.

"It wasn't like an execution with an electric chair or a gas chamber where it was more private," he said. "It's a spectacle to send a message of intimidation that the people who are creating the lynch mob — they want to kill. They want to send a message not only locally, but publicly."

The noose, which rioters tied to a gallows as they screamed "Hang Mike Pence," is now in the FBI's custody.

Watch below:

https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-riot-noose-2655499867/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4288 on: November 05, 2021, 04:02:17 AM »
Trump and his MAGA candidates always show support for Nazis and white supremacists...disgusting.

Trump-backed Arizona governor candidate appears with Nazi sympathizer at campaign event



On Thursday, CNN's KFILE reported that Kari Lake, a former news anchor running for governor of Arizona with former President Donald Trump's endorsement, publicly posed with and thanked a Nazi sympathizer who attended her campaign events.

"At a campaign event in late August, Lake posed for a photo and video with far-right personalities Ethan Schmidt-Crockett, the founder of the AntiMaskersClub, who harassed a store specializing in wigs for cancer patients this summer because it required customers to wear masks, and Greyson Arnold, a Nazi sympathizer who has a history of making White nationalist, racist, antisemitic and pro-Nazi statements, including once calling Adolf Hitler 'a complicated historical figure which many people misunderstand,'" reported Em Steck and Andrew Kaczynski.

"'Anti-maskers club here with Kari Lake,' said Schmidt-Crockett alongside Lake and Arnold in the video. 'America First,' they each said," continued the report. "After Arnold posted a photo of the trio on Twitter, Lake replied, 'It was a pleasure to meet you, too.'"

According to recent reports, Lake, who has promoted election fraud conspiracy theories and called for the Arizona secretary of state to be arrested, has also palled around with prominent figures in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement, which posits that Trump is trying to bring down a shadowy cabal of child-trafficking Satanic pedophiles. She has had dinner with Ron Watkins, a top QAnon promoter who has even been accused of being the shadowy anonymous "Q" who originated the movement — although he denies this.

Lake has said that journalists "should be ashamed" of themselves for covering her association with QAnon figures.

https://www.rawstory.com/kari-lake-nazis/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4289 on: November 05, 2021, 10:39:40 PM »
2nd grand jury empaneled into Trump investigation, sources say

The first grand jury served its six-month term, and now a second one will serve as part of an investigation into the former president and his business.

A second grand jury has been empaneled in New York in an investigation about former President Donald Trump and his business, two people familiar with the matter told NBC News.

A first grand jury served its six-month term, and now a new group of grand jurors will sit, the sources said, stressing that the development is a procedural action.

The investigation is being led by the Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance and New York Attorney General Letitia James.

The new grand jury could hear testimony about the valuation of Trump’s properties and accounting and taxes tied to them, one of the sources familiar with the matter said.

The first grand jury heard evidence that led to the indictment of Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg on a separate alleged tax scheme in July.

The sources said that a second grand jury being empaneled was a procedural action and there has been no change to any on any potential subjects of the investigation or other aspects of it.

Grand juries have a time limit, and there was always going to be a second grand jury empaneled once the first's time had expired, the sources said.

In July, the Trump Organization and Weisselberg were charged in what prosecutors said was a 15-year scheme to compensate top executives "off the books" and help them avoid paying taxes.

Weisselberg and the Trump Organization have pleaded not guilty. Former President Trump reacted to the charges by calling it a "political witch hunt."

James, the New York attorney general, said at the time the charges were announced that the investigation would continue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/2nd-grand-jury-empaneled-trump-investigation-sources-say-n1283300

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4290 on: November 05, 2021, 11:35:36 PM »
These people are mentally ill, racist, antisemitic, and they all worship Trump. They are the base of the Republican Party and Republicans never condemn their hate, racism, antisemitism, or anti vaxx conspiracy theories. In fact the GOP and the right wing media helps to amplify their dangerous rhetoric.   

QAnon cultists drawn to Dallas by hideously antisemitic conspiracist who thinks Jesus had four children



The QAnon influencer who drew right-wing conspiracists to Dallas to await John F. Kennedy's reappearance has effectively built a cult around himself.

Conspiracists converged from across the county on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza, where the 35th president was assassinated while riding in a car with his wife -- and where the QAnon influencer Michael Brian Protzman, known as Negative48, promised a supernatural spectacle that would return Donald Trump to the White House as the "king of kings," reported Vice.

"His rise to notoriety and fame within the QAnon world has been rapid," the website reported. "Back in March, his Negative48 Telegram channel had around 1,700 members; today, it has over 105,000 members. But aside from the number of followers Protzman has, what makes him stand out from other QAnon influencers is the loyalty and worship he has instilled in those people."

The 58-year-old Protzman, who ran a demolition company in Washington state until beginning his new online career, pushes deeply antisemitic content, questionable financial advice and a fake version of gematria -- a Hebrew system of assigning numerical values to letters, words and phrases.

"The stuff that I have seen has shaken me to my core," said one extremism researcher, who asked for anonymity to protect himself from Protzman and his followers. "They are brainwashing people with English gematria."

Protzman applies this bogus system to passages in the Bible and QAnon slogans, which he uses to spin complex conspiracies linking Christianity, QAnon and the Kennedy family.

"In Protzman's telling, Jesus Christ married Mary Magdalene and had four children with her," Vice reported. "This gave rise to a bloodline that went on to create many famous people today, notably the Kennedys. He also claims that blood type O is a marker for the Christ bloodline and that the 'New World Order' is trying to hunt down that bloodline by DNA testing COVID-19 PCR swabs."

But most of all, Protzman repackages old antisemitic conspiracies for a new audience to claim the Holocaust never happened, and he has promoted the hideously antisemitic 10-part film "Europa: The Last Battle 2017," which claims Jews created communism and purposefully started both world wars in a plot to establish Israel, and the film "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Ever Told."

"There are no Jews, period, anywhere -- period," Protzman said in one audio chat. "There is no Jewish race, and the Jewish leadership are basically the British empire, the Roman empire, it's just the criminals."

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-brian-protzman/