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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4004 on: July 08, 2021, 12:09:11 PM »
Analysis: More Jobs Created in Biden's 5 Months Than Bushes/Trump Combined

July 3, 2021

The graph below speaks to one of the most significant inconvenient truths in American politics – the GOP’s economic track record over the past 30 years has been among the worst in the history of the United States. With the strong June jobs report, over 3m jobs have been created in the first five months of the Biden Presidency. Remarkably this is more than was created over the Presidencies of the last 3 Republican Presidents, combined.



When it comes to managing the US economy, the two parties are not the same. Since this new age of globalization began in 1989, a modern and forward looking Democratic Party has repeatedly seen strong economic and job growth during their Presidencies. Republican Presidents have overseen three consecutive recessions, the last two, were severe. The numbers in the first graph below tell the story – in 16 years of Clinton and Obama, 34m jobs were created. In the first four months of Biden it is 2.2m. Over 16 years of the two Bush Presidencies and Trump, it was 1.9m. Democratic policies have been able to make globalization work for America; GOP policies have repeatedly failed to deliver for the American people, have repeatedly let us down.

It is our firm belief here at NDN that the current radicalization of the GOP is intimately linked to its repeated failure to handle the challenges of the post-Cold War era. The rigid ideological approach of the modern GOP has left it unable to govern in a time of rapid change; and those repeated failures have left many Republicans angry, reactionary and willing to do the unthinkable to stay in or regain power. The modern GOP has no answers for many of the most important challenges America faces today, and rather than modernizing, adapting, as all institutions must in a time of change, the GOP has decided to fight the future by rigging the system to remain in power while the country and its people drift from their narrow grasp. If the GOP is successful, it is a clear formula for a sustained period of American decline as it will continue to delay much needed progress of the big challenges we face.



https://www.ndn.org/biden-more-jobs-than-GOP


Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4005 on: July 08, 2021, 05:07:46 PM »
There is no "Trump vaccine". It was a co-operative effort by the nations of the world and independent international pharmaceutical companies.

The reopening is "thanks" to the wait for "Trump vaccine"? LOL! Trump told states to "liberate", not wait until there was a vaccine before re-opening.



Let's compare the states that said they were opting out of the Biden Unemployment subsidy with how they rank (1 is best; 50 is worst) on one economic recovery scale.

Utah  1         Iowa  27
Idaho  3         North Dakota  32
Arizona  7         Ohio  34
Georgia  12         Alabama  38
Tennessee  16         Arkansas  41
South Carolina  17         Wyoming  45
Missouri  23         Mississippi  49

(US News, GDP by state Link )

Late-to-drop subsidy:

Florida  8         South Dakota  30
Texas  9         Maryland  35
New Hampshire  11         Oklahoma  37
Montana  19         Lousianna  45
Nebraska  20         West Virginia  48
Indiana  21          

Utah and Idaho are largely rural states experiencing for some years a housing boom. Many of the farms there don't hire American-born workers, anyway. Eleven other states made it into the top 20; 12 were in the bottom-half, with five in the bottom 10. Clearly rejecting the unemployment subsidy isn't helping those states.

There are many reasons why the return to work hasn't been instantaneous. Over 100,000 working-age people died from COVID-19 (many, I assume, from Trump's mask-shaming, "Liberate" states campaign and super-spreaders). The other 500,000 COVID-19 deaths would have affected working people, emotionally and financially. Some companies urged people to accept early retirement. Other workers were staying home to look after children during the pandemic. As they and their children become vaccinated -- and facilities for children re-open -- many of these workers will again become available for work.

Lower-paying and no-benefit jobs (the kind that make possible the One Percent) are lacking being filled because the poor, blacks and Latinos were disproportionately impacted by the pandemic as compared to whites, who might have had savings or, like the Trump kids, "worked" without interruption for Pappy.

Trump squashed numerous legal immigration programs that has now led to the number of skilled workers being down. Trump -- who has a dislike for public schooling -- shifted funding for trade and technical schools, to "choice" meaning he thought more students should go to private schools (he had a $5 billion plan to support scholarships for private schools in 2019).

Where do you think the working poor is putting the subsidy, what with funerals and unending expenses like rent, food, utility, media and, for some, a car? Saving it up for Trump Resort memberships?

Guess you had no lay-off. If eating-out and take-away is your primary source of food.

Probably the empty ones might be those places that would pay workers as little as $2.13/hr, per the federal law for tipped employees? Or the state minimum wage rate which won't cover the cost-of-living in a big city like New York or Las Vegas. So folks have to survive on starvation wages so you can get your Waffle Fries and Cheetos Chicken Sandwich.

Could be many restaurant workers didn't make enough or have enough hours to qualify for unemployment benefits, let alone the subsidy. They're in the Red States, living under an overpass with no phone to let them know they're now needed.

And fast-food CEOs making an average of $6,600 per hour has nothing to do with it? How about Chipotle Mexican Grill's CEO Brian Nicco pay package that reached $33.5 million in 2018? Nicco received 25% more-per-hour than the average annual salary of Chipotle service workers, you know, the people that actually do all the heavy lifting. Lure them back with a living wage and humane benefits, like most MAGA thugs get to enjoy.

Sure. Be like you. Think working folks are feeling-less cogs who can be shelved and brought out when needed. Then when they complain about their situation, there's an attempt to silence them by calling them un-American and "welfare" bums.

I'm surprised you have so much time to criticize America with a blackface Prime Minister, churches being torched, and mass graves of indigenous children being found.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4006 on: July 08, 2021, 06:31:24 PM »
And over 800,000 more jobs were created in June....another record!   
 Biden Created More Jobs in First Two Months Than Any President in History
This got me to thinking [and checking]
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The COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting lockdown caused 114 million people to lose their jobs over 2020....According to the latest edition of the ILO Monitor, 114 million jobs were lost in 2020, which, in combination with working-hour reductions within employment, resulted in working-hour losses approximately four times as high as during the financial crisis in 2009.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/02/covid-employment-global-job-loss/

That sounded massive ...In fact unemployment was reported there as half the population of the country! However continuing to check facts...
 
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/14/u-s-labor-market-inches-back-from-the-covid-19-shock-but-recovery-is-far-from-complete/

About 10 million? Well that was more like it.
It goes to show you again...figures may not lie but liars can figure.
 
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over 800,000 more jobs were created in June
Added yeah. Was it a creation or a restoration? Who locked down everything in the first place? Joe Biden didn't create jack.........

Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4007 on: July 09, 2021, 12:08:05 AM »
A lame response. All deflection. Like McConnell, Graham, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Fox News ...

BTW, you still haven't shown your place of residence beneath your name, as I have done. Also, what state(s) did you grow up in. This is important because it would tell us how racist your upbringing was.

The "indigenous graves" issue is headed your way:

"Feds may investigate Native American boarding school in Nevada after discovery of Canadian mass graves" ( Link )

As in Canada, indigenous children sent to boarding schools (between around 1883 and the phase-out by 1996) who died there did so mostly due to disease and inflection (about ten per year on average). Not much worst than the infant mortality rate overall for those times. The schools were run by religious groups and some extremists are now torching churches that serve native communities.

Would be hard put to find an indigenous leader or council who hasn't condemned the arson and pledged to rebuild the churches. However, the out-of-control "reclaimers" breaking the law might appeal to a Trump-supporter like you who's gaslighting the January-6 attack.

Wait until they start excavating some of the dozens (hundreds?) of massacre sites of indigenous natives throughout the United States. Forensics will show many died brutal execution-style deaths, often at the hands of US Calvary "death squads".

See if American schools teach what really happened to the natives, blacks (to name a few).

So much hate for America.  We even have the Stanley Cup!  Again.  So much winning here while Canadians were killing indigenous people until 1996!  That's not 1886 but 1996.  Wow. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4008 on: July 09, 2021, 12:37:28 AM »
Trump allies face police investigation for alleged 2020 election scams outlined in damning report

Allies of Donald Trump are facing investigations by state police and the Michigan attorney general for alleged scams related to the 2020 presidential election.

Bridge Michigan reports that Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and state police agencies have agreed to investigate claims outlined in a damning report issued by a GOP-led committee in the Michigan State Senate that concluded Trump allies were "purposefully defrauding people" with lies.

Two figures likely to come under scrutiny, Bridge Michigan writes, are attorney Matthew DePerno and former state Sen. Patrick Colbeck, hardcore Trump allies who received blistering criticism in the Michigan State Senate report for lying about the 2020 election.

Republican State Sen. Ed McBroom, who chaired the committee, told Bridge Michigan that "we found circumstantial, but substantial, evidence that some people were committing fraud and extorting people for money," which is why he and his fellow commissioners recommended the Michigan AG run a criminal investigation into the matter.

In addition to criticizing Trump allies for spreading misinformation about the election, the Michigan State Senate report also concluded that "there is no evidence presented at this time to prove either significant acts of fraud or that an organized, wide-scale effort to commit fraudulent activity was perpetrated in order to subvert the will of Michigan voters."

https://www.rawstory.com/michigan-elections-2020/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4009 on: July 09, 2021, 12:46:46 AM »
Weisselberg out in Scotland: First indication that indictment affects Trump Organization operations

Allen Weisselberg, the indicted Trump Organization executive, was removed today as a director of Donald Trump's golf resort in Aberdeen, Scotland, public records show. The move is the first to indicate how the indictment is affecting operations of the Trump Organization.

His removal comes as Scottish lawmakers and Avaaz, a global do-gooder organization, are pushing for an "unexplained wealth" inquiry into how Trump got the money to buy and refurbish both of his money-losing Scottish golf courses.

A 2018 British law lets investigators examine company and personal financial records to determine sources of money and riches that they deem suspicious. It's been called the McMafia law.

Trump's Aberdeen course lost nearly $1.5 million (£1.1 million) in 2019, up slightly from 2018. The property has lost money for seven years in a row.

The course also has an interest-free loan from the Trump Organization of $61.1 million (£44.4 million), disclosure documents show. Manipulating interest expenses is a common tax avoidance technique that can justify criminal charges of tax fraud unless executed with extreme care.

There are only two ways Weisselberg could be removed as a director of the Trump International Golf Club Scotland, Ltd. Weisselberg could have done so on his own. In that case, his lawyers may have advised him to do so for reasons not yet clear.

The other way would have been on orders from Donald Trump and executed through his sons Don Jr. and Eric, who remain as the only directors. That, too, may indicate a criminal defense strategic move. Since Weisselberg remains on the Trump Organization payroll it almost certainly does not suggest a split between the interests of Weisselberg and his boss.

The move suggests that Trump may be trying to make sure only he and his family members exercise any legal control over the Trump Organization.

Removing Weisselberg would not block or limit any Scottish inquiry or the investigation by the New York County district attorney's special grand jury, which on July 1 indicted Weisselberg and the Trump Organization.

The New York indictment detailed a calculated 15-year scheme using two sets of books to cheat the federal, state, and city governments out of more than $800,000 of taxes.

Weisselberg and the Trump Organization face 15 counts of grand larceny, tax fraud, and conspiracy. Weisselberg could get 15 years on conviction, but he also could get probation without even home confinement. None of the crimes Weisselberg is charged with come with a mandatory prison sentence upon conviction.

Weisselberg plead not guilty when brought in handcuffs before a state judge in Manhattan. The judge released the 73-year-old chief financial officer of the Trump Organization on his own recognizance.

The 25-page indictment is the first in what I'm sure will be multiple cases as prosecutors try to persuade insiders that they will be better off turning state's evidence than sticking with Trump.

often involving no prison time. Those who hold out may face prison even if they eventually cooperate. The indictment signals that prosecutors have solid evidence against tax cheats in the Trump Organization as well as anyone who took part in manipulating business records cold should they choose to seek their indictment.

As I read it, the indictment hints at future charges against Trump's two oldest sons, Ivanka Trump and Weisselberg's son Barry, who runs the ice rink and carousel in Central Park for Trump.

Mayor Bill de Blasio is trying to cancel that lucrative contract and another Trump has for a municipal golf course.

Ivana was a Trump Organization vice president when she was paid more than $700,000 in consulting fees, which may be a disguised gift subject to tax.

Barry Weisselberg got a free apartment near Central Park, a car, and other perks on which his ex-wife has said no taxes were paid. Jennifer Weisselberg is cooperating with prosecutors, supplying them with extensive financial documents.

Donald Trump and his lawyers have tried to minimize the criminal charges while not disputing that Weisselberg received $1.7 million in noncash compensation that was never reported to tax authorities as required by law.

I critiqued Trump's cavalier attitude in this earlier column.

The United Kingdom requires private companies, like the Trump Organization, to make more disclosures than American law requires, including total revenue (called "turnover") and profits, fees paid to directors, dividends paid to owners, and loans outstanding.

In America, only companies with publicly traded stock or bonds must make such disclosures. As Donald Trump's personal property, the Trump Organization and its more than 500 affiliated enterprises are not required to make similar public disclosures in America.

https://www.rawstory.com/weisselberg-scotland/


Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg has been terminated as the director of one of Trump's golf courses in Scotland
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-allen-weisselberg-terminated-scotland-golf-course-2021-7

Mary Trump: Ivanka 'much less likely to stay loyal' to father than Weisselberg
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/561725-mary-trump-ivanka-trump-much-less-likely-to-stay-loyal-to

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4010 on: July 09, 2021, 12:58:03 AM »
What a sick and evil scumbag Criminal Donald is.


Trump joked about Jamal Khashoggi's grisly murder in phone calls to Saudi prince: report

Former president Donald Trump cracked a joke about the grisly murder of Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi operatives, according to a new report.

The October 2018 murder of the U.S.-based journalist set off a crisis inside the White House, and Trump personally called Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman and his father King Salman seeking answers about the slaying in Turkey, reported Yahoo's "Conspiracyland" podcast.

"The president had multiple calls with MBS and with King Salman, specifically asking them, did you know anything about this?" said Kirsten Fontenrose, then the director of Gulf affairs at the National Security Council. "The president would flat-out ask, I mean, up to a dozen times on any individual phone call, whether it was with King Salman or with MBS or both of them, 'Did you have any knowledge of this operation?' 'Did you know this was going to happen?' 'Did you give this order?'"

The royal duo repeatedly insisted they knew nothing of Khashoggi's murder and assured Trump, using his first name, that they would fully investigate the crime, but the ex-president became fixated on the conclusion by U.S. officials that the Saudi-born journalist's body was hacked up with a bone saw.

"I mean, he would go back to it and back to it and back to it, trying to press them and telling them, you know, 'This will change everything, you guys. We've got to know. We're with you. We're standing behind Saudi Arabia ... but we've got to get to the bottom of this. 'Was there a bone saw? Was there a bone saw?'" Fontenrose said.

He then joked about the gruesome detail.

"'I've been in difficult negotiations," Trump said. "I've never had to take a bone saw.'"

Trump turned at one point to then-secretary of state Mike Pompeo, and joked again, which drew a chuckle from the Cabinet official.

"'Have you ever had to take a bone saw into negotiations?'" Trump said, according to Fontenrose. "'No Mr. President, ha ha,' and pressing, pressing, pressing, and every time, 'No, no, no, Donald, we didn't know anything about it. We're still trying to get to the bottom of this.'"

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jamal-khashoggi/