Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

The border wall is "ineffective" because some people are trying to saw through it?  What would they be doing if it wasn't there?  Pouring through unobstructed.  That is some logic you are using.  Are you Jim Acosta's dumber brother?  And it is exactly the same principle.  Obviously, no wall is full proof but a wall does provide protection which is why there is a wall around Nancy's multi-million dollar mansion and now the Capitol.

Poor gullible Richard has fully bought into the maga propaganda and got nothing out of it. He believed in a false prophet and ended up being conned by a serial con artist.

Richard thought a "big beautiful wall" was going to be built from California to Texas all paid for by Mexico. Instead he got a few miles of wall from money Trump stole from the military. Basically it was reinforcement fencing that smugglers still were able to get through. A total and epic failure.     

It is not the same principle. If your violent maga mob wasn't out to harm elected leaders then there wouldn't be any need for it.

Benedict Donal.d is an epic failure and destroyed America.


'We’re in a Worse Place Today Than We Were Before He Came In’: 'Trump’s ‘understanding of global events … was really limited": Former U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on the mess Donald Trump is leaving behind
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/11/rex-tillerson-interview-trump/

[Joe Elliott]

I don’t get it. What does Rudy Giuliani get out of all this anyway?

[Joe Elliott]

Word to the wise for Alan Dershowitz. Cash on the barrelhead.

[Joe Elliott]

I still quote the federal constitution as the mainstay of how elections should be handled, senate, representative or president.   There is a procedure to be followed to amend the "manner" in which elections are to be held.  Would manner include allowing/disallowing mail-in votes, changing deadlines for receiving and the like? 

In the case of Georgia (or any other state for that matteR), it does not say it is to be decided by Raffensperger and Abrams behind close doors in a mutually agreeable fashion and then have it ruled on by a judge or state or federal court system - even if it was your sister or associate.  The constitution said there are 2 ways to change the "manner" of elections not 3.  The new precedent throws that one out the window or stretches the meaning of "the legislature"!

1) You need to bring it before the legislature and have procedures and manners decided.
2) You can go federally and  do it with congress
3) There are no other options, See rule 1 & 2!

Yes, it very "questionable" when you evoke special privilege due to COVID and use that to extend voter ballot deadlines, allow mail-in ballots and whatever other "manner" you decide you want to make.  That sets a precedent and with no SCOTUS ruling,  anyone can change rules as long as the judges in power okay it and 2 parties agree.

Did the Governor of Georgia create the position of the Secretary of State, which Raffensperger occupied? No. The position of the Secretary of State was created by the Georgia State Legislature. They created it so that there would be a person who would administer the elections. And Raffensperger was elected to his position by the people of Georgia. This position allows him tweak the rules for voting when unexpected issues come up. Like extending voter ballot deadlines due to unforeseen circumstances, like COVID-19. That is why the Georgia State Legislature created this position. So, these tweaks can be made, even within a few weeks of the election, if circumstances so dictate.

There is nothing in Georgia law that prohibits these tweaks to the election laws. Indeed, these tweaks are common in many elections.

In Florida in 2000, not the state legislature, but various county officials tweaked the election law. But allowing a type of ballot not used before. The butterfly ballot. These types of ballots had no be used before, or at least not recently. They came about because the Florida legislature expanded the number of Presidential candidates so that there were too many to easily fit on one page. These “tweaks” almost certainly cost Al Gore the election in Florida, which lost him the overall Election to George W. Bush.

Even though this tweak was not directly ordered by the Florida State legislature, tweaks like this are common. Circumstances are always causing elections to “evolve” from election to election. In no way does this mean that the vote in 2000 was fraudulent. Or that George W. Bush was not the true victor of both Florida and the national election.

Questions:

If changing the voter ballot deadlines in Georgia for 2020, done without explicit approval of the Georgia Legislature, invalidates the 2020 election in that state.
Then:
Why didn’t the use of butterfly ballots in Florida for 2000, done without explicit approval of the Florida Legislature, and never before or at least recently been used in Florida, invalidate the 2000 election in that state?

Why are not all state elections which have these tweaks, which are common, invalid?

[Rick Plant]

I don’t get it. What does Rudy Giuliani get out of all this anyway?

Nothing. Ghouliani wanted money and now he needs a pardon for his crimes.

[Rick Plant]

No surprise that racist cops joined the insurrection along with the klan and neo nazi hate groups because they are part of the maga cult. This was a planned coup and you can bet Bannon and Stone had their fingers in the pot.

Rioters Included Highly Trained Ex-Military and Cops

“As Trump’s supporters massed outside the Capitol last week and sang the national anthem, a line of men wearing olive-drab helmets and body armor trudged purposefully up the marble stairs in a single-file line, each man holding the jacket collar of the one ahead,” the AP reports.

“The formation, known as ‘Ranger File,’ is standard operating procedure for a combat team that is ‘stacking up’ to breach a building — instantly recognizable to any U.S. soldier or Marine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a chilling sign that many at the vanguard of the mob that stormed the seat of American democracy either had military training or were trained by those who did.”

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/15/rioters-included-highly-trained-ex-military-and-cops/

[Rick Plant]

US rioters sought to 'capture and assassinate' lawmakers at Capitol: prosecutors

US prosecutors now believe supporters of President Donald Trump planned to "capture and assassinate elected officials" in their siege of the Capitol building last week, according to a new court filing.

The filing, submitted by Justice Department lawyers late Thursday, sought the detention of Jacob Chansley of Arizona, the QAnon conspiracy theorist pictured in the riot dressed as a horned shaman at the desk of Vice President Mike Pence.

"Strong evidence, including Chansley's own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government," prosecutors said of the January 6 siege.

Read more here
https://www.rawstory.com/us-rioters-sought-to-capture-and-assassinate-lawmakers-at-capitol-prosecutors/