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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6370 on: August 17, 2023, 03:21:00 AM »
Trump continues to expand his lead in the polls and the money is rolling into his campaign despite the desperate efforts of Dems to undermine democracy by using the corrupt legal system to avoid allowing the voters to decide elections.  Hillary Clinton claimed the 2016 election was "stolen" due to Russian collusion.  This was the biggest fake conspiracy theory in modern history perpetuated by Dems and the leftist media for years.  They claimed Trump was not a "legitimate" president because the election was "stolen."  Exact quotes.  Now those claims by Trump are deemed crimes.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6371 on: August 17, 2023, 05:08:51 AM »
Two brand new polls show that the majority of Americans want Trump to go to prison for his crimes and the majority of Americans refuse to vote for him. No surprise with these two polls. Trump and his co-conspirators will be booked at the Fulton County jail. 

Majority Of Americans Say Trump Should Be Prosecuted On Federal Criminal Charges Linked To 2020 Election, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3877

Whopping 64% of Americans Say They ‘Definitely’ Or ‘Probably’ Would NOT Support Trump For President in 2024: AP Poll
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/whopping-64-of-americans-say-they-definitely-or-probably-would-not-support-trump-for-president-in-2024-ap-poll/

Trump, allies will be booked at Fulton County Jail, sheriff says
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/breaking-trump-allies-will-be-booked-at-fulton-county-jail-sheriff-says/TVA75MWN3ZG4DBSS4TLO7EB4WE/

Trump, co-defendants in Georgia election case expected to be booked in Fulton County jail, sheriff says

Washington — Former President Donald Trump and the 18 others facing state felony charges related to alleged efforts to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election in Georgia are expected to be booked at the jail in Fulton County, the sheriff's office said Tuesday.

Local law enforcement said that in Fulton County, where a grand jury returned the indictment charging Trump and his 18 co-defendants Monday, the booking and arraignment processes are separate. Citing guidance received from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' office and the judge presiding over the case, the sheriff's office said all 19 defendants named in the charging document are expected to be booked at the Fulton County jail in Atlanta.

"Keep in mind, defendants can turn themselves in at any time. The jail is open 24/7," the sheriff's office said.

Willis said Monday after the indictment was unsealed that Trump and the 18 others have until Aug. 25 to surrender to authorities.

Multiple sources told CBS News that negotiations are underway for Trump to turn himself in, and two sources familiar with the planning said it's likely he will do so next week. While the first debate involving eight Republican presidential candidates is set to take place next Wednesday in Milwaukee, it's unclear whether Trump, who has qualified to be on the stage, will participate.

Trump has been charged with 13 counts related to alleged attempts to unlawfully change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election in his favor. The former president and 18 others are accused of conspiring to overturn President Biden's electoral win in Georgia in violation of the state's racketeering law. Other charges brought against the former president include making false statements, soliciting Georgia's secretary of state and state lawmakers to violate their oaths, and conspiring to commit forgery through the plot involving a fake slate of presidential electors.

The 98-page indictment lists 41 counts in all. Others charged include former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark, and lawyers Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman and Sidney Powell. The charging document also states there are 30 unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators who, with Trump and his 18 co-defendants, allegedly "constituted a criminal organization" whose members engaged in "various criminal activities" with the goal of overturning Trump's loss in Georgia.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-co-defendants-georgia-election-case-booked-fulton-county-jail-sheriff/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6372 on: August 17, 2023, 05:12:44 AM »
The Beat with Ari Melber @TheBeatWithAri

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Trump adviser and ally Roger Stone is seen pushing a plot to overthrow the 2020 Election.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1691935482836377816

https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1691935482836377816

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6373 on: August 17, 2023, 05:16:05 AM »
The fourth indictment of former President Donald Trump

A grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia, has indicted former President Donald Trump and more than a dozen of his associates on charges of election fraud, racketeering and other counts related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa anchors a special report.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6374 on: August 17, 2023, 01:11:47 PM »
Another fantastic week for Trump.  Campaign donations are surging.  He is surging in the polls.  In contrast, Old Joe has been sleeping at the beach while Hawaii burned.  He had "no comment."  He continues to look confused when he is allowed by his handlers to make a rare public appearance.  He can never figure out how to leave a stage.  Imagine another six years of this disaster.  Or even worse.  Kamala.  America is a shell of its former self after only two years of Old Joe. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6375 on: August 18, 2023, 03:12:18 AM »
 "Trump is surging in the polls"  :D :D :D


Majority of Americans say they ‘definitely’ won’t vote for Trump in 2024: poll
https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/majority-of-americans-say-they-definitely-wont-vote-for-trump-in-2024-poll/


GOP 'quietly panicking' over 'devastating' poll numbers on Trump crimes: Morning Joe

Donald Trump may have finally reached a tipping point with voters after his fourth indictment, and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said Republicans were "quietly panicking" about their 2024 chances.

The twice-impeached ex-president was charged with racketeering in Georgia for his role in a wide-ranging conspiracy to overturn his election loss in the state, and he faces charges in two federal cases and another case in New York, and the "Morning Joe" host pointed to new poll numbers that show few Americans believe he did nothing wrong.

"This is what Republicans have quietly been panicking about," Scarborough said. "You look at these numbers -- 64 percent in the [Associated Press] poll, 64 percent say they're not going to support Trump next year. I actually saw people connected with Mitch McConnell and other Republicans tweeting that out, that this is devastating. That's who the Republicans are moving towards putting up. He has a 33-percent approval rating, a favorable rating in that poll. The majority believe what he did was illegal, and there are so many other polls that came out yesterday that are showing the same thing. Independents breaking dramatically away from Donald Trump. Independents saying he should have been indicted, independents saying overwhelmingly that what he did was illegal."

Polls found voters are most hostile to Trump for his actions in Georgia than the election interference case brought by special counsel Jack Smith, and even more voters believe he broke the law by hoarding classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

"You know, we've been careful not to draw any conclusions on where Republicans are going to go just because it's been so impossible to figure that out in the past six, seven years," Scarborough said. "My former party, I will say, for me, this is feeling a lot like June of 1974 leading up to [Richard] Nixon's resignation in August. Trump will not back out, but I tell the story repeatedly of my father, what I'm trying to get my arms around this, I remember my dad staying with Nixon until the very end and then reading the transcripts of the tapes and saying, 'That guy is unworthy to be president.'"

The polls also found 64 percent of Americans say they would not support Trump for a second term, while 54 percent say he threatened democracy itself, and Scarborough said very few people believe his actions were merely unethical.

"Only 15 percent of Americans, let's underline this, agree with Donald Trump that he did nothing wrong," Scarborough said. "Only 15 percent of Americans agree with Donald Trump that he did nothing wrong in the classified documents case. Only 14 percent of Americans say he did nothing wrong in the hush-money case. Of course, that is by far, for good reason, the weakest case, but these numbers, it sure seems like they're moving in one direction and the bad news for him is, the more people find out about these cases, the worse news it is for Donald Trump."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6376 on: August 18, 2023, 03:30:37 AM »
Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

A fringe website featured the purported names and addresses of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and 18 other people for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election

ATLANTA — The purported names and addresses of members of the grand jury that indicted Donald Trump and 18 of his co-defendants on state racketeering charges this week have been posted on a fringe website that often features violent rhetoric, NBC News has learned.

NBC News is choosing not to name the website featuring the addresses to avoid further spreading the information.

The Fulton County District Attorney’s Office declined to comment. District Attorney Fani Willis faced racist threats ahead of the return of the indictment, and additional security measures were put in place, with some employees being allowed to work from home.

The grand jurors' purported addresses were spotted by Advance Democracy, a nonpartisan research group founded by Daniel J. Jones, a former FBI investigator and staffer for the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee.

“It’s becoming all too commonplace to see everyday citizens performing necessary functions for our democracy being targeted with violent threats by Trump-supporting extremists," Jones said. "The lack of political leadership on the right to denounce these threats — which serve to inspire real-world political violence — is shameful.”

Advance Democracy also noted that users were posting the names and images of people believed to have been grand jurors on other social media sites. The posts asserted that the jurors had posted on social media in support of Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Raphael Warnock, D-Ga., former President Barack Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement.

The indictment issued Monday lists the names of the grand jury members but not their addresses or other personal information.

Tuesday — after Trump posted on his social media website that authorities were going "after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!" — Advance Democracy said Trump supporters were "using the term ‘rigger’ in lieu of a racial slur" in posts.

The Fulton County Sheriff's Office, which is handling the surrender of Trump and his co-defendants over the next 10 days, initially declined to comment, but said in a statement Thursday after this article published that they are "aware that personal information of members of the Fulton County Grand Jury is being shared on various platforms."

"As the lead agency, our investigators are working closely with local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies to track down the origin of threats in Fulton County and other jurisdictions," a statement fro the sheriff's office said Thursday. "We take this matter very seriously and are coordinating with our law enforcement partners to respond quickly to any credible threat and to ensure the safety of those individuals who carried out their civic duty."

The FBI did not respond to a request for comment.

The grand jurors have come under attack in the days since Trump's indictment, the fourth criminal indictment brought against the twice-impeached former president.

“These jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting President Trump," a post on a pro-Trump forum read in response to a post including the names of jurors, which was viewed by NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/names-addresses-grand-jurors-georgia-trump-indictment-posted-online-rcna100239