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« Reply #6120 on: May 02, 2023, 10:00:57 AM »
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Dominion wants ‘accountability’ over Fox News election lies, co-founder says

Company that won $787.5m settlement pursuing defamation lawsuits against two Fox competitors and four Trump allies



Dominion Voting Systems, which last month reached a $787.5m settlement of its $1.6bn defamation case against Fox News, is seeking wider accountability for the broadcast of Donald Trump’s election fraud lies and will “not … stop until we get it”, a co-founder said.

redacted in court filings but reportedly linked to the dramatic firing of Tucker Carlson would soon be revealed.

John Poulos, chief executive of Dominion, Hootan Yaghoobzadeh, an investor from Staple Street Capital, and Stephen Shackelford, a partner at Susman Godfrey, the law firm representing Dominion, spoke to Axios in an interview published on Monday.

Fox still faces a $2.7bn suit from Smartmatic, another election machine company targeted by Trump and his allies in their lies about voter fraud in his 2020 defeat by Joe Biden.

Axios noted that Dominion is pursuing defamation lawsuits against two Fox competitors, One America News and NewsMax, and four Trump allies: Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell and Patrick Byrne.

Poulos said: “As we said from the beginning, we’re seeking accountability and we’re not going to stop until we get it. We have six more cases and we are completely aligned as we have been from the beginning.”

The settlement in Dominion’s Fox case came as the two sides waited in court in Delaware for trial to begin.

Shackelford said the suit and settlement “should send a big signal to the other defendants that we are serious about exposing the truth, and we are serious about accomplishing full compensation and justice for Dominion”.

Fox was not required to issue an on-air apology but the case uncovered a mine of internal messages which showed executives and hosts acknowledged that Trump and allies were lying but gave them airtime anyway.

Last week, Fox fired the prime-time host Tucker Carlson. The extent to which the decision was linked to Dominion remains unknown, if subject to extensive reporting.

Yaghoobzadeh said: “I think the consequences of the entire strategy that we pursued are starting to reflect themselves.”

Shackelford said Dominion “did not insist on them firing Tucker Carlson as part of the settlement. But the very fact that that’s what resulted out of all of this, and it’s traceable from the work that Dominion and Staple Street set in motion, that’s the sort of stuff Hootan is talking about.”

It has been reported that messages redacted in court filings contain instances of Carlson using “highly offensive” language about Fox executives.

Shackelford said: “Of course I know what’s in the redacted stuff and I can’t say anything about it … I hope that it all gets un-redacted at some point.”

He added: “We expected [Fox] to fight tooth and nail and to pull out all the stops, and they did. The scariest part of what they did trying to rewrite first amendment law just to save Fox’s hide in a way that was completely, in my view, disingenuous and dangerous.”

Yaghoobzadeh pointed to the continuing careers of other anchors who spread Trump’s lies, prominently including Maria Bartiromo.

“I just don’t know how informed every Fortune 500 CEO is to the lack of journalistic standards that were used in that initial broadcast,” Yaghoobzadeh said, about Bartiromo’s business-oriented show.

And if they’re deciding to go on that show after understanding all that information, I’m not one to judge these things but I certainly wouldn’t go on that show.”

Asked for comment, Fox News pointed to a previous statement in which it said it was “pleased to have reached a settlement”, acknowledged rulings “finding certain claims about Dominion to be false”, and claimed the deal “reflects Fox’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/01/fox-news-dominion-lawsuits-trump-election-lies

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6121 on: May 02, 2023, 10:57:30 PM »
Judge may release full texts exposing Tucker Carlson: legal analyst

A group of media outlets are continuing the lawsuit to obtain the full discovery exhibits in the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit against Fox News and Fox Corp. Over the past week, more information has been revealed about comments former host Tucker Carlson made. But in the documents themselves, there were many redactions.

According to a recent report, the comments were so bad Fox felt they were "unsurvivable."

Dominion lawyer Davida Brook outlined some things they hoped to discuss in the trial, but she left out the details that many reporters are hungry for.

MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace asked what she called the "$787.5 million question," a play off of the gameshow and the settlement Fox agreed to with Dominion. Speaking to former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, she asked if those redactions would expose what Carlson did that was so bad and whether it's within the public's interest to know.

"I think The New York Times and the public's interest in having this material unredacted and disclosed publicly would involve, if the judge used any of this information that he was privy to, what's behind those black bar redactions, in resolving all of the pretrial issues he had to resolve. I think then those matters have to be disclosed publicly because it really bears on the quality and the performance of the judge in his rulings up until the day of trial when it's settled."

He went on to also cite the First Amendment piece of the trial and the "public's right to know" is also on the side of the media outlets fighting the case.

"I don't think we can let this go without commenting on the hypocrisy of Fox 'News.' I'm going to go with the air quotes — a 'news organization' fighting against the First Amendment, freedom of the press and public's right to know," Kirschner continued. "I do think where Fox's interest would be strongest at its zenith is if there was really proprietary business information somehow behind the redactions. I find that unlikely, but, you know, it is a little bit of a gray area when it comes to a case having settled, not going to trial."

He explained that in criminal cases, there would be a request to seal some things for witness protection and security matters, but once the trial is over, everything was then unsealed. So, it doesn't matter to the case now that Dominion has settled with Fox.

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« Reply #6122 on: May 03, 2023, 03:35:09 AM »
Trump aide Dan Scavino testified to Jack Smith’s grand jury today, per NBC News. Everyone is assuming this is his first go-round. But the courts ordered him to testify five weeks ago. It’s entirely possible he already testified, came back today more testimony post-Pence.

The media stakes out the courthouse and tries to spot every witness going in, and takes the position that if it hasn’t seen someone go in then they must not have testified yet. But witnesses have ways of sneaking in, and it’s not possible for the media to spot 100% of them.

So we don’t know if Scavino’s testimony today was his first go-round or second.

Nor do we know if Mark Meadows has already testified. He could have cut a deal to be snuck in through a parking garage or something.

We don’t know how many more witnesses (if any) are still left.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6123 on: May 03, 2023, 04:20:42 AM »
Jack Smith holds the keys to blocking Trump from a self-pardon

With Donald Trump facing multiple investigations in New York, Georgia and Washington, D.C., questions are being raised over whether he will be eligible for a pardon should he be found guilty of any of the many crimes he has been accused of.

In a speculative column for Politico, University of Baltimore School of Law professor Kimberly Wehle wrote that there are many paths and outcomes depending upon whether the former president is indicted at the state or federal level, but one charge and conviction would put a pardon out of reach even if Trump is re-elected and tries to absolve himself.

Digging deep into the Constitution, Wehle suggests that, should special counsel Jack Smith indict Donald Trump for his part in leading the Jan. 6 insurrection, there will be nothing he or even President Joe Biden can do about it via the pardon.

As she wrote, the charges in Trump's second impeachment provide a roadmap.

"No court has yet considered the question of whether presidents can pardon themselves, even for crimes committed in the Oval Office," she wrote. "Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution states of impeachment, which is the most apparent remedy for presidential wrongdoing in office, that 'the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.'"

"Given that impeachments cannot be pardoned under Article II, the impeachment language — which makes former presidents subject to the criminal laws for impeachable conduct — could be read to suggest that crimes related to impeachments cannot be pardoned, either," she explained.

She added that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment also presents a roadblock to the former president.

"If Smith’s grand jury indicts Trump under the section of federal sedition law which provides that '[w]hoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto . . . shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States,' a self-pardon would clash with the Supreme Court’s longstanding recognition, discussed below, that pardons cannot undermine other parts of the Constitution."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6124 on: May 03, 2023, 10:15:08 PM »
Judge sets deadline after Trumps stop turning over documents in fraud case



Forbes reported on Wednesday that Donald Trump and his three eldest children who worked at the Trump Organization have failed to turn over emails and other communications requested in the fraud suit from New York Attorney General Letitia James.

A letter submitted to the court last week revealed “an unexplained drop-off in emails for Ivanka Trump” as another one of the issues for the investigators. The request comes from the fraud investigation into the Trump Organization's business practices. Already, Trump has been forced to pay $110,000 in fines because Judge Arthur Engoron found the former president in contempt because he wouldn't comply with a subpoena.

It's unclear if Trump and his family members could be forced to fork over more cash due to the inability to comply with other subpoenas. But thus far, the AG's office is requesting a timeline for the document delivery.

"The attorney general’s office is now saying the Trumps’ evasiveness has continued into the discovery process of the $250 million lawsuit, which alleges Donald Trump, his children, the Trump Organization and some of its top executives inflated property values to obtain economic benefits, such as securing cheaper loans," Forbes reported. The Trump side denies the charges in the case and the elder Trump has spent a lot of time on his social media account trashing the New York AG using racist nicknames forher.

The court filing asks the judge to intervene again, saying that they had started to give documents but haven't given a timeline for when that request would be fulfilled. James also said that the Trumps aren't answering questions about how the materials are being collected.

"The letter notes a significant decline in emails turned over from Ivanka Trump, dropping from an average of 1,200 emails per month in the first nine months of 2014 to just 37 emails a month in 2016," the report continued.

According to the attorney general's office, the lawyers gave a less-than-satisfactory excuse.

“Not only have defendants failed to offer any substantive response to this inquiry, but there have been no documents produced by Ms. Trump,” the AG's office told the judge.

Ivanka Trump has also replaced her attorneys, though some of the attorneys she was using still represent Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump.

Some of the requests from the AG have been granted by the judge, namely that the Trumps submit sworn affidavits on how the collections have worked, what they've done so far and he also set a May 12 deadline to turn over everything outstanding.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fraud-case-documents-requested/

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« Reply #6125 on: May 04, 2023, 03:12:23 AM »
BREAKING: THREAD: new reporting from @kpolantz and @PaulaReidCNN indicates that Jack Smith prosecutors have been asking questions about the HANDLING/TAMPERING of the surveillance footage subpoenaed on June 24, 2022 in the documents case.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6126 on: May 04, 2023, 03:56:55 AM »
Jack Smith may be trying to prove Trump tampered with Mar-a-Lago security footage: legal expert



According to new reporting from CNN, special counsel Jack Smith is now investigating the Trump Organization's handling of security footage from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, as part of the criminal probe into troves of highly classified documents that were found illegally being stored on the premises — and that longtime Trump security aide Matthew Calamari and his son are a key focus.

Speaking to CNN's Pamela Brown, NYU professor Ryan Goodman argued this is a key indication Smith thinks the footage Trump's legal team handed over previously may have been doctored or otherwise interfered with.

"The special counsel is looking at the handling of surveillance footage that was turned over under subpoena," said Brown. "How significant is this development."

"It's highly significant if the special counsel has reason to think that the surveillance video was tampered with," said Goodman. "It's very significant in two respects. One, this is a case about obstruction, which would be 'obstruction on steroids' if people tampered with the surveillance that the Department of Justice specifically subpoenaed in order to find out what had happened to the classified documents. And the second is that it would be a very serious aggravating factor pointing the Justice Department to indictment under the Espionage Act if, indeed, it included this kind of level of obstruction, of any tampering with the video surveillance. And would also mean that more than one person was involved. That's another aggravating factor that the Department of Justice would have to take into account."

"We played that sound of Trump telling Sean Hannity a few weeks ago, quote, 'I gave them tapes of storage areas, I wasn't holding anything back,'" said Brown. "CNN has reported that the security camera footage that was turned over showed a Mar-a-Lago staff member moving boxes from a storage room with a Trump aide ... what do you think, do you think there's more footage that Trump doesn't want out there."

"That's an open question," said Goodman. "The footage they provided was only of a certain date range. They only keep surveillance video footage for a specific period of time. It also sounds as though the special counsel wants to hear about how people like Walter, who's caught on the video, and the Calamaris may have been discussing it. Moving the boxes out after they received the subpoena and the direction to keep the boxes in the storage room, really important for the Justice Department to know about those conversations entail."

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Judge tosses Donald Trump's lawsuit against New York Times

A New York judge on Wednesday has tossed a lawsuit Donald Trump filed against The New York Times, The Daily Beast reports.

Trump’s 2021 lawsuit alleged a “insidious plot” between the newspaper and his niece, Mary Trump, to obtain his private tax records for a 2018 Pulitzer-winning article.

New York Supreme Court Justice Robert R. Reed in his ruling filed Wednesday afternoon wrote that the claims “fail as a matter of constitutional law” and determined that the NYT’s reporting was “the very core of protected First Amendment activity.”

CNN media reporter Oliver Darcy obtained a statement from a New York Times spokesperson that said: "The New York Times is pleased with the judge's decision today. It is an important precedent reaffirming that the press is protected when it engages in routine newsgathering to obtain information of vital importance to the public."

Donald Trump's lawsuit concerning Mary Trump has yet to be ruled on.

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Special counsel investigating Trump Org's handling of Mar-a-Lago security tapes: report

Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith is now investigating how the Trump Organization handled surveillance tapes from his Mar-a-Lago country club as part of the probe into classified documents illegally stashed on the property, reported CNN on Wednesday.

"The handling of the footage, and how employees within the Trump Organization responded to the Justice Department’s demand for it, have prompted a new round of grand jury subpoenas to top Trump employees in the last few weeks, the sources told CNN," reported Katelyn Polantz and Paula Reid. "Longtime Trump Organization executives Matthew Calamari Sr. and his son Matthew Calamari Jr. are expected to appear Thursday before the grand jury investigating possible mishandling of classified documents brought to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources said. Prosecutors are expected to ask them about the handling of the surveillance footage and Trump employees’ conversations following the subpoena, according to the sources."

The classified document probe is one of two major cases involving former President Donald Trump that Smith is overseeing, the other being the investigation into the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"The footage has been a part of the Justice Department’s investigation into possible mishandling of classified records at the Florida beach club after Trump left the presidency and possible obstruction of justice. No charges have been brought in the case, and Trump has denied any wrongdoing," said the report. "CNN has previously reported the footage captured Walt Nauta, an aide close to the ex-president, Nauta and another Mar-a-Lago employee moving boxes containing documents out of a storage closet."

"The Calamaris are among several witnesses expected to testify in Smith’s investigation on Thursday, sources said," the report continued. "Prosecutors have previously brought in lower-level Trump employees for questioning about the surveillance footage, including how it may have been handled in response to the subpoena for it and if it could have been tampered with, two sources told CNN this week."

Trump has fiercely resisted the investigation, claiming he had a right to take the documents. However, he has also justified his actions by boasting that Mar-a-Lago is a "highly secured facility." In reality, the country club has seen numerous security breaches, including by nationals from hostile foreign powers.

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Beyond insane': Another billionaire donor drops Trump over election lies

A Georgia billionaire who was one of the state’s biggest financial backers of Donald Trump has dropped the former president over election fraud lies, according to a leaked recording.

Tommy Bagwell announced his decision at a closed-door RNC donor retreat in Nashville, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported.

The recording was first aired by activist Lauren Windsor.

“I want to, unfortunately, say something that’s probably not very popular in this crowd,” Cummings, a former poultry magnate, said, according to the AJC.

“So, to keep you from throwing things at me, I figure I’d say it.”

He went on to call election denial claims “beyond insane.”

“One of the worst things you can do in this stuff is start repeating and promoting stuff that absolutely just didn’t happen. And Georgia’s election was pretty damn clean,” he said.

“Everything, especially that Mr. Trump promoted that I heard, was roundly and convincingly debunked.”

He pointed out that he had given a fortune to Trump, then added: “Not anymore.”

The meeting was attended by Trump attorney Cleta Mitchell, the AJC reported. She responded by repeating the election fraud conspiracies.

“There are problems in Fulton County,” she said. “There are problems in DeKalb County. And we know what they are now,” she said to applause. “I just want to prepare for those before 2024.”

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Pence meeting shows Jack Smith is pursuing a different approach than Robert Mueller



In an unusual move, January 6 special counsel Jack Smith sat in on the grand jury testimony of former Vice President Mike Pence — testimony that was the culmination of months of back-and-forth legal wrangling over whether the Justice Department had the constitutional authority to compel Pence in the first place.

Speaking to CNN's "The Situation Room" on Wednesday, former prosecutor Shan Wu outlined how this represents a huge difference between the approaches of Smith and former special counsel Robert Mueller, who oversaw the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

"What does it suggest to you, that Jack Smith actually sat in during the grand jury testimony?" asked anchor Wolf Blitzer

"Besides the historic nature ... from a prosecutorial and defense counsel, it signals it's active and operational," said Wu. "Very rare for a leader to be personally sitting there in the grand jury room during that testimony. And I think it signals that he's — it's a very vigorous style of leadership. I mean, it's a little bit of a contrast to the approach we saw in the Mueller investigation, where, from what we understand and what I personally saw, Mueller himself did not participate in most of the interviews leading through his staff. Mueller coming from being the head of the FBI for many years, very large institution. Different place in his career than Smith, who was very much coming to this from being an operational prosecutor. So I think we're seeing a contrast in those styles."

"Do you think Jack Smith will continue his role in other key testimony going forward?" Blitzer pressed him.

"He may," said Wu. "I think it probably depends on the individual witness whether he would be there or not. But I think his mere presence signals he has a very hands-on role in directing the operation. The caution, not always good to have the top person be too hands-on. You might compare [special counsel John] Durham's efforts of leading the investigation, but there are very different kinds of prosecutors. I think this signals he has a steady and active hand on the controls."

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