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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5740 on: August 25, 2022, 09:40:27 PM »
Judge rules for release of redacted search warrant affidavit by noon Friday: report



U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart on Thursday ordered a release of a redacted version of the FBI affidavit that resulted in granting of a search warrant for Mar-a-Lago.

The Department of Justice had warned that the redactions might need to be so prevalent that the resulting document would do little to inform the public.

"I find that the Government has met its burden of showing a compelling reason/good cause to seal portions of the Affidavit because disclosure would reveal (1) the identities of witnesses, law enforcement agents, and uncharged parties, (2) the investigation’s strategy, direction, scope, sources, and methods, and (3) grand jury information protected by Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e)," the judge wrote.

"Based on my independent review of the Affidavit, I further find that the Government has met its burden of showing that its proposed redactions are narrowly tailored to serve the Government’s legitimate interest in the integrity of the ongoing investigation and are the least onerous alternative to sealing the entire Affidavit," Reinhart explained.

The judge ordered the Department of Justice to release the redacted affidavit by noon Eastern time on Friday.

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti said, "It’s important to note that the judge adopted the redactions proposed by DOJ. A lot of information will remain redacted, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we learn new details about the extensive dialogue between the Executive Branch and the Trump Team *prior* to the warrant."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5741 on: August 26, 2022, 03:03:16 AM »
Trump's 'Mar-a-Lago offensive backfires' as new disclosures point to 'serious breach': National Review writer



National Review writer Andrew McCarthy has been skeptical of the FBI's search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, but new disclosures made this week by pro-Trump writer John Solomon have left him far less doubtful about the merits of the search than before.

In a new analysis published by National Review titled "Trump World's Mar-a-Lago Search Offense Backfires," McCarthy argues that Trump has done himself no favors by trying to depict the search of his home as a politically driven raid by an out-of-control gestapo aimed at bringing him down at any cost.

This has been compounded, McCarthy believes, by Solomon's release of a letter from acting archivist Debra Steidel Wall to Trump's lawyers that outlined how he had not complied with the National Archives' repeated requests to return documents.

"Clearly, the purport of Solomon’s news report was to bolster the Trump narrative that Biden is using the Justice Department as a political weapon in hopes of eliminating Trump as his potential 2024 opponent," writes McCarthy. "Okay . . . but the problem is that Archivist Wall’s letter shreds Trump’s claim — most recently proclaimed in a lawsuit filed with great fanfare on Monday morning — that he has been completely cooperative and transparent in dealing with the FBI and the Justice Department, and therefore that the forcible search of his Florida estate was an unnecessary, inexplicable abuse of power."

And if it's true that Trump kept documents marked "top secret" that related to special access programs, McCarthy charges, then it would mark "an extraordinarily serious breach" in national security protocols.

He closes his analysis by warning Trump that he could really face criminal charges if he keeps going down his current path.

"If you are trying not to get indicted, the best defense is usually not a good offense," he concludes. "And it is never an offense that backfires."

Read the full analysis here:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/trump-worlds-mar-a-lago-offensive-backfires/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5742 on: August 26, 2022, 06:50:21 AM »
Trump has the ‘worst life ever lived by a former president’: MSNBC anchor says he is in ‘pure misery’



Donald Trump will have difficulty getting to sleep on Thursday evening as he lives with the misery of knowing tomorrow will be the worst day of his life.

That argument was made by MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell during the opening of "The Last Word."

"A 76-year-old retiree who is living on the full load of government benefits for his age group — Medicare, Social Security and in his case, government pension — and who has discovered that golf is the least effective form of exercise to control weight and stay in shape, is now a full year and a half into the worst life ever lived by a former president of the United States," O'Donnell began.

"Donald Trump, his life is a misery from the moment he wakes up too early in the morning, through those dark hours in the middle of the night when he is struggling against the insomnia to find some peace," he continued. "Peace that never comes. Pure misery, that is his life."

He compared Trump's post-presidency to that of disgraced former President Richard Nixon.

"Donald Trump does not have the comfort of a pardon to soften the agony of his days and nights and so Donald Trump's life now is much, much worse than the 20 years Richard Nixon spent in mere disgrace after the presidency," O'Donnell said. "I say mere disgrace, because Donald Trump spends every day and every night under disgrace and multiple threats of indictment"

"Donald Trump said he was insomniac long before he reached the presidency," he said. "How do you think Donald Trump is going to sleep tonight? tonight. Donald Trump knows that even the redacted version of the FBI affidavit released tomorrow is going to make tomorrow the very worst day of his life. So far. Only to be followed by even worse days including possible days in court, in federal court or in Georgia state court as a criminal defendant — criminal defendant Donald Trump. Donald Trump knows what is coming better than any of us do, Donald Trump knows what he did."

"Donald Trump's living an unprotected life," O'Donnell said. "And that terrifies him."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5743 on: August 26, 2022, 10:32:11 AM »
More Trump advisers called to testify in Fulton County



Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fani Willis revealed that three additional advisers to former President Donald Trump are being called to answer questions about the attempt to overthrow the 2020 election results in the state.

According to Politico, Mark Meadows, Sidney Powell and Phil Waldron are the three new witnesses who are being asked to answer questions before the special grand jury.

Meadows served as Trump's chief of staff in his final year in office. Meadows traveled to Georgia and tried to break into the rooms where election officials were matching voters' signatures on their ballots. Meadows then started talking to the lead investigator under the deputy secretary of state. He got the deputy's phone number and the following day Trump called her, asking for help on his election scheme.

Sidney Powell was among the legal team who "helped" Trump wage a kind of legal war to change the 2020 election. Recent reports have revealed that Powell also got access to files that were copied from Georgia voting systems.

"Plaintiffs in a long-running federal lawsuit over the security of Georgia’s voting systems obtained the new records from the company, Atlanta-based SullivanStrickler, under a subpoena to one of its executives," the Washington Post revealed Monday. "The records include contracts between the firm and the Trump-allied attorneys, notably Sidney Powell. The data files are described as copies of components from election systems in Coffee County, Georgia, and Antrim County, Michigan.

Waldron was also called by the House Select Committee investigating Jan. 6 and the attempt to overthrow the election. In their request for Waldron, they explained that he was among those who were circulating ideas around changing the election results. He was coordinating with the White House and members of Congress, and turned over "a blueprint for overturning a nationwide election" the committee characterized.

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Republicans are the ones behind the latest evidence against Trump: columnist



Former conservative Jennifer Rubin noted in her Washington Post column Thursday that it seems like lately, it's Republicans who are providing the evidence against former President Donald Trump.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), for example, is trying to dodge testifying before the Fulton County DA as part of the ongoing probe into whether former President Donald Trump did anything illegal when he demanded that the government find 11,780 votes so he could win the state.

Graham has claimed that he simply didn't know how to vote on Jan. 6, so that's why he called Georgia to ask whether the conspiracy theories were true about the election there. He didn't call any other states, however, where Trump and his allies were arguing the election was fraudulent. Graham maintains that he did nothing untoward, he just doesn't want to testify under oath about it.

Meanwhile, Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) is also trying to dodge the grand jury subpoena. He ultimately has appealed to the judge saying that if they could just put things on hold until after his election that would be super helpful. He's made it clear that he's willing to testify, but understandably he's trying to get Trump supporters to vote for him in November and videos of him walking out of the grand jury could make that difficult. Speaking to MSNBC on Thursday, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner said that Kemp isn't likely to make it happen.

Rubin went on to quote the filing, which outlines what the grand jury wants to know from him. It makes it clear why this could make it difficult when factoring in his reelection. Courts, however, don't make decisions based on politics.

"Movant [Kemp] can testify inter alia about the existence of any evidence the Trump campaign or operatives provided to support their theory that Georgia’s election was 'rigged'; Movant can testify about the identity of the people who attempted to communicate with him and whether they identified as representatives of Mr. ‘Trump; he can testify to the number of times he received or made calls related to the Trump campaign’s allegations and demands that he take action; he can testify about the specific contents of his phone conversations; he can testify about the contents of his telephone conversation with Mr. Trump; he can testify about whether Mr. Trump told Movant that he “got Movant elected”; he can testify about ‘whether Mr. Trump specifically sought a “special election” or some other form of relief; he can testify about conversations about “election integrity”; he can testify about whether threats were made by Mr. Trump or others; he can testify about his responses to Mr. Trump," the court documents say.

The other Republican that Rubin cites is Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who Trump told to "find" the 11,780 votes. The former president has gone after both Raffensperger and Kemp, but failed in trying to bring them down.

In the Trump-Mar-a-Lago-documents scandal, where the calls were coming from inside the house as well. His former White House counsel, Pat Cipollone, and deputy Patrick Philbin, spoke to the FBI long before the search warrant was issued for the Palm Beach golf club.

Meanwhile, the director of the FBI was also a Trump appointee.

This week when Trump went "judge shopping" in an effort to stop the documents from being reviewed by the government until an impartial observer could discern whether they violated attorney/client privilege or executive privilege. Instead of going to US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who is overseeing the case, Trump lawyers went to one of his own appointees, Judge Aileen Cannon. It didn't work, however. She too highlighted the incompetence of the Trump legal team.

So, as Rubin explained, it appears as though Republicans are the ones who are behind the latest attempt to bring down Donald Trump, even if it's unwittingly.

Read her full column at the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/24/brian-kemp-trump-georgia-investigation/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5744 on: August 26, 2022, 11:26:11 AM »
President Biden @POTUS

To those Republicans in Congress who believe student debt shouldn’t be forgiven:

I will never apologize for helping America’s middle class – especially not to the same folks who voted for a $2 trillion tax cut for the wealthy and giant corporations that racked up the deficit.


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Biden Slams ‘Extreme MAGA’ Movement, Says It’s ‘Like Semi-Fascism’

President Joe Biden appealed to Democrats and Republicans alike to vote in November to protect a slate of civil liberties.



President Joe Biden lambasted the philosophy behind his predecessor, Donald Trump, at a fundraising event on Thursday, saying the MAGA movement embraced by large sectors of the Republican Party was akin to “semi-fascism.”

The president, speaking at a Democratic fundraiser in Maryland, called out “extreme” Republicans and said he was concerned about the state of Democracy in America. Biden added he wasn’t sure if the hard-right tilt of the GOP was coming to an end or just beginning, warning those gathered to vote during November’s midterm elections to reject the “ultra MAGA agenda,” referring to Trump’s “Make America Great Again” mantra.

“What we’re seeing now, is either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy,” Biden said. “It’s not just Trump, it’s the entire philosophy that underpins the... I’m going to say something, it’s like semi-fascism.”’

Biden went on to say he didn’t realize how damaging Trump’s tenure in the White House had been to the country’s international standing when he first walked into the Oval Office. Those statements marked some of his sharpest comments yet aimed at the Republican establishment.

"I underestimated how much damage the previous four years had done in terms of America’s reputation in the world,” the president said, before adding he retained hope those losses could be regained.

“I believe there’s not a damn thing America can’t do if we set our mind to it,” Biden said.

The White House is hoping to ride a string of political victories into the November elections, including the landmark Inflation Reduction Act passed earlier this month and his decision to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for millions of Americans. Democrats also hope to leverage nationwide anger over GOP efforts to limit access to abortion and voting rights and fend off Republican efforts to wrest control of either chamber of Congress.

Biden this week began a nationwide tour to support Democratic candidates running for congressional and local offices. He warned supporters Republicans wouldn’t stop at their recent victories after the Supreme Court overturned the landmark Roe v. Wade, but would move on to attack other civil liberties, including same-sex marriage.

“It’s not hyperbole now you need to vote to literally save democracy again,” the president told a crowd at the Democratic National Committee event Thursday, according to Reuters reports. “America must choose. You must choose. Whether our country will move forward or backward.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-maga-semi-fascism_n_630825a9e4b063d5e619e130

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5745 on: August 26, 2022, 11:45:28 AM »
Trump’s angry words spur warnings of real violence

WASHINGTON (AP) — A man armed with an AR-15 dies in a shootout after trying to breach FBI offices in Cincinnati. A Pennsylvania man is arrested after he posts death threats against agents on social media. In cyberspace, calls for armed uprisings and civil war grow stronger.

This could be just the beginning, federal authorities and private extremism monitors warn. A growing number of ardent Donald Trump supporters seem ready to strike back against the FBI or others who they believe go too far in investigating the former president.

Law enforcement officials across the country are warning and being warned about an increase in threats and the potential for violent attacks on federal agents or buildings in the wake of the FBI’s search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home.

Experts who study radicalization and online disinformation — such as Trump’s aggressive false claims about a stolen election — note that the recent increase was sparked by a legal search of Trump’s Florida home. What might happen in the event of arrests or indictments?

"When messaging reaches a certain pitch, things start to happen in the real world,” said former New Jersey Attorney General John Farmer, a onetime federal prosecutor who now directs the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers University. “And when people in positions of power and public trust start to echo extremist rhetoric, it’s even more likely that we’re going to see real-world consequences.”

Amplified by right-wing media, angry claims by Trump and his allies about the search are fanning the flames of his supporters’ distrust of the FBI — though it’s led by a Trump appointee — and the federal government in general. And at least a few of Trump’s supporters now appear to be acting on his anger.

Last week a man wearing body armor and armed with an assault rifle and a nail gun tried to breach the FBI’s Cincinnati office. He was later shot and killed by police after exchanging fire with officers. Authorities say they believe the man had posted dark messages on Truth Social, Trump’s online platform, including one that said federal agents should be killed on sight.

Another man drove his car into a U.S. Capitol barricade Sunday and began firing gunshots into the air before he fatally shot himself.

On Monday, the Department of Justice announced the arrest of a Pennsylvania man who had made repeated threats on the lives on FBI agents on Gab, a platform popular with Trump supporters.

“You’ve declared war on us and now it’s open season on YOU,” he wrote in one post shared by authorities.

A joint intelligence bulletin from the FBI and Homeland Security warns about an increase in violent online threats targeting federal officials and government facilities. Those include “a threat to place a so-called dirty bomb in front of FBI headquarters,” along with calls for “civil war” and “rebellion,” according to a copy of the document obtained by The Associated Press.

Mentions of “civil war” on platforms including Facebook and Twitter increased tenfold in the hours immediately after last week’s search of Mar-a-Lago, according to an analysis by Zignal Labs, a firm that analyzes social media content.

Many of the posts contained baseless claims suggesting President Joe Biden ordered the FBI to search Trump’s home, or that the FBI planted evidence to incriminate Trump.

“Biden sending the FBI to raid a former President, Mr. Donald Trump’s home is a declaration of WAR against him and his supporters,” wrote one poster on the Telegram platform.

The intelligence bulletin also noted federal law enforcement officials have identified multiple threats against government officials involved in the Mar-a-Lago search, including calls to kill the magistrate judge who signed the search warrant.

The names and home addresses of FBI agents and other officials have been posted online, along with references to family members who could be additional targets, according to the intelligence documents.

The threats are ominously similar to the online rhetoric that preceded the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, says Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat who chairs the House Jan. 6 committee and the Committee on Homeland Security.

“These threats of violence and even civil war – coming predominantly from right-wing extremists online – are not only un-American but are a threat to our democracy and the rule of law,” Thompson said.

The search of Trump’s residence was executed based on a lawfully obtained warrant signed by a judge. But that’s beside the point for Trump and his allies.

“This is an assault on a political opponent at a level never seen before in our Country,” Trump wrote Monday in a post on his Truth Social. “Third World!”

Republican Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona equated the investigation with “tyranny” and tweeted, “We must destroy the FBI.”

Another Arizona congressman, Republican Andy Biggs, sought to place some blame on the individual agents who executed the search. “This looked more like something you would see in the former Soviet Union,” Biggs said this week. “Why did all those agents willfully go along?”

Republican Sen. John Thune told reporters in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, on Tuesday that though the Justice Department has shown it followed legal protocols in obtaining the search warrant, its reticence about the Trump investigation has caused people to question law enforcement’s motives.

“There’s just a lot of unanswered questions that, left to a vacuum, create lots of suspicions among the American people, and the one thing you don’t want is people not trusting law enforcement,” Thune said.

Other Republicans have tried to temper the rhetoric, as Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson did during an appearance over the weekend on CNN. “We need to pull back on casting judgment on them,” Hutchinson said of the agents. ”The FBI is simply carrying out their responsibilities under the law.”

But many in the conservative media haven’t heeded that advice.

“The raid on Mar-a-Lago was not an act of law enforcement, it was the opposite of that,” Tucker Carlson said on his Fox News show Monday night. “It was an attack on the rule of law.”

Fox also shared a doctored photo that falsely depicted the judge who signed the warrant receiving a foot massage from Ghislaine Maxwell. Maxwell was sentenced in June to 20 years for helping her boyfriend Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls. The original photo was not of the judge but of Epstein, who committed suicide in 2019 while awaiting trial. Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade later said the doctored image was shared as a joke.

The roots of Republican anger at the FBI go back to the 2016 election and investigations of the Trump campaign’s alleged ties with Russia and of Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified material in a private email account. That fury has only increased as new investigations focus on Trump, his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his handling of classified material since leaving office.

Baseless claims that the FBI secretly framed Trump supporters for their violent actions on Jan. 6 also stoked the ire of conservative social media users.

“Well guys you started this civil war,” wrote one poster on Gab “And others are going to sure end it for you.”

https://apnews.com/article/ghislaine-maxwell-social-media-donald-trump-mar-a-lago-31741bb13f708ee68b523592623341eb

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5746 on: August 26, 2022, 04:49:19 PM »
Fox insider: Trump supporters fall into 3 categories — duped, grifters and persuadable conservatives



Longtime Fox News polling and voting trend analyst Chris Stirewalt explained how he thinks people should view Donald Trump's coalition during a Thursday interview by CNN's Anderson Cooper.

"CNN and a lot of other organizations have been polling on the issue, as you know, since the 2020 presidential election poll," Cooper said. "Poll after poll you see anywhere from 50% to 70% of Republicans who believe the election was stolen from the former president."

"The main reason seems to be simply because he tells them it was stolen, despite no evidence and despite all the evidence to the contrary," Cooper explained. "Do you think there is anything that can be said or shown to those people at this point to change their minds?"

"I think you have to divide that group out a little bit," Stirewalt replied.

He said, "I have sincere sorrow for the people who are truly duped, right? There are people who are truly, truly duped and they have been snookered."

"There's a lot of cynical Republicans and grifters on the right who took advantage of those people and have taken them for a well amount of money," Stirewalt continued.

"Then there is this other group," he explained. "These are the folks who resent being told again and again about this. They don't like hearing about it. They don't like hearing from me, they didn't like it when the team that I was part of called Arizona. They don't like it and they're resentful of it."

"Those are persuadable people," Stirewalt argued. "Those people have to be made to understand about two things. Number one, their duty to the republic and the system. But number two, that if they keep up like this, their party is going to be relegated to sideline status and kook status and will not be competitive in states where it should be competitive."

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