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« Reply #5328 on: June 11, 2022, 05:52:42 PM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5329 on: June 12, 2022, 09:34:57 AM »
Right wing Republicans and the right wing media like to pretend that gas prices are only high in the United States and lie  that "Biden policies" has caused gas prices to soar. Once again, that lie is debunked as the UK pays even higher prices for gas than Americans do. Gas prices are high all over the world, so the Republican lie that "Biden caused high gas prices" is easily debunked. Gas prices are high all over the world due to Big Oil Price Gouging and Putin's war in Ukraine. Countries all over the world have higher inflation and higher gas prices in the United States.     

As gas hits $8.60 a gallon in the UK, Brits pay $125 to fill a family car

The cost of filling up the average U.K. family car surpassed £100 ($125) for the first time ever Thursday.

It now costs £100.27 to fill a 55-litre family saloon with petrol and £103.43 for diesel.

British automotive company RAC said the milestone was “a truly dark day” for drivers a fuel prices continue to push higher.




Britons are now paying over £100 ($125) to fill up an average-sized family car after petrol prices soared past the psychological threshold for the first time ever Thursday.

The price is based on the cost of filling up a 55-litre family saloon — £100.27 — as average U.K gasoline prices surpassed £1.82 a litre. That roughly translates to $8.60 a gallon, with one litre equal to 0.264172 U.S. gallons.

The cost of filling an equivalent car with diesel is £103.43, with diesel now priced at £1.88 a litre.

British automotive company RAC, which provided the figures, said it was “a truly dark day today for drivers” as fuel prices continue to push higher.

“While fuel prices have been setting new records on a daily basis, households up and down the country may never have expected to see the cost of filling an average-sized family car reach three figures,” RAC fuel spokesperson Simon Williams said in a statement.

Thursday’s milestone is latest marker of the continued upward pressure on fuel prices amid Russian oil sanctions and soaring inflation.

The cost of unleaded petrol is now 37% more expensive in the U.K. than this week a year ago, while diesel is 38% more expensive.

The U.K. government announced a 5-pence-a-litre cut to fuel duty in March to help reduce costs for motorists. However, motoring groups have warned that retailers are not passing cuts on and said more support is needed.

“March’s 5 [pence] fuel duty cut now looks paltry as wholesale petrol costs have already increased by five-times that amount since the Spring Statement [25 pence],” Williams said.

“A further duty cut or a temporary reduction in VAT would go a long way towards helping drivers, especially those on lower incomes who have no choice other than to drive,” he added.

Industry analysts are now predicting that petrol prices could rise even higher.

“We are certainly peppering the £2 a litre mark at the moment,” Gordon Balmer, executive director at the Petrol Retailers Association, told Sky News Thursday.

Still, the U.K. is not the most expensive place for fuel in Europe.

Denmark is the costliest country in the region for petrol, according British motoring association the AA. The price at the pump was £2.05 a litre as of 30 May.

It was followed by Greece, Germany and then Britain.

Exchange rates, VAT levels and duty levels are among the reasons for the differing fuel prices across the continent, according to an AA spokesperson.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/09/brits-paying-8point60-a-gallon-for-gasoline-125-to-fill-family-car.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5330 on: June 12, 2022, 10:53:38 AM »
Fascism expert: Trump needed to go to the Capitol on Jan. 6 to pull off his coup attempt



Fascism expert Ruth Ben-Ghiat stunned CNN's Jim Acosta on Saturday when she explained why Donald Trump needed to travel to the Capitol after his speech on the ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021.

Acosta played a clip of Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) speaking at the first prime-time hearing of the House Select Committee Investigating the January 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"Cheney also said Trump had a sophisticated seven-point plan to overturn the election and the chair of the committee, Benny Thompson, called this a coup attempt," Acosta said. "Ruth, you're an expert on coups. What's the significance of that?"

"I was really pleased to see Chairman Thompson use that word because it's the right word for something that's the result of a process that started -- in a sense it started before November 2020... because Trump had been trying to discredit elections for several years and forming his personality cult so the faithful would rally when he summoned them."

"But coups can take months or years to plan and this was a multi-pronged attempt to overthrow our democracy. It's worth reviewing that he tried so many things simultaneously. He had General Michael Flynn trying to have martial law or military intervention and he tried the trickery that happened with the Georgia Secretary of State. And when none of that worked, he went nuclear and did what autocrats have done in the past and used violence, summoned the people there to right this monstrous wrong on his behalf," said Ben-Ghiat, the author of the book Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present.

"It's interesting, what came out recently, is Trump was trying to get to the Capitol on Jan. 6. He couldn't get there. This is consistent, if you're having a coup and summoned everybody and you expect to be anointed as the head of a new illegitimate government, you have to be there," she explained. "There's a phase in coups. They're violent, quick, and then you have the pronouncement of the new order. That's why he was trying to get there."

"Wow," Acosta said. "That is a great point."

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« Reply #5331 on: June 12, 2022, 11:40:51 AM »
Flying under the radar is the testimony of a former senior Faux News political editor Monday. There has been little reporting and he isn’t commenting, but he is expected to detail how Faux coordinated with Trump leading up to January 6 to spread election fraud lies.

Former Fox News Political Editor Chris Stirewalt To Testify Before January 6th Committee



Chris Stirewalt the Fox News political editor let go from the network in January 2021 said that he has been called to testify before the January 6th Committee and will do so on Monday.

“I have been called to testify before this committee, and I will do so on Monday,” Stirewalt said on NewsNation, where he serves as political editor.

He told anchor Adrienne Bankert that he was “not in a position now to tell you what my testimony will be about,” but said that he wanted to make a full disclosure.

The committee already has indicated that it would explore how Donald Trump’s false election claims were spread in the media.

Stirewalt was dropped from Fox News in January 2021, in what the network said was a restructuring. But Stirewalt later wrote that he was fired from the network after defending the Fox News decision desk’s call of Arizona for Joe Biden on Election Night, the first major signal that Trump would lose his bid for re-election. That triggered a backlash against the network by Trump and his supporters. He’s authored an upcoming book, Broken News: Why the Media Rage Machine Divides America and How to Fight Back, to be published in August.

A representative for the committee did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In a piece that Stirewalt wrote for the Los Angeles Times after his departure, he wrote, “Having been cosseted by self-validating coverage for so long, many Americans now consider any news that might suggest that they are in error or that their side has been defeated as an attack on them personally. The lie that Trump won the 2020 election wasn’t nearly as much aimed at the opposing party as it was at the news outlets that stated the obvious, incontrovertible fact.”

He added, “What tugs at my mind after seeing a mob of enthusiastic ignoramuses sack the Capitol, though, is whether that sophistication will come quickly enough when outlets have the means to cater to every unhealthy craving of their consumers.”

On Thursday, as other broadcast and cable network pre-empted programming to carry the committee’s first primetime hearing, Fox News Channel stuck with its lineup of opinion hosts during the hearing itself, including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, while anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum covered the event on Fox Business Network. Hannity’s name came up during the hearing, when the committee’s co-chair, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) read a text that he sent to Kayleigh McEnany, then White House press secretary and now a Fox News contributor, in the aftermath of the Capitol attack.

Cheney said at the hearing, “Sean Hannity wrote in part: ‘Key now, no more crazy people.’ ‘No more stolen election talk.’ ‘Yes, impeachment and 25th amendment are real, and many people will quit.’  Ms. McEnany responded in part: ‘Love that. That’s the playbook.’”

Cheney’s point was that White House staff knew that Trump was spreading false conspiracies about the election and that he needed to be “cut off” from those who were spreading the theories.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/fox-news-january-6th-committee-chris-stirewalt-1235042774/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5332 on: June 13, 2022, 12:09:39 AM »
Trump 'one step closer' to federal prosecution after aides' testimony to Jan 6th committee: report



According to a report from the Guardian, revelations from former Donald Trump aides at the first of the six House committee hearings on the Jan 6th insurrection have given federal prosecutors a solid basis to pursue criminal charges against the former president.

On Thursday, the bi-partisan committee dropped a bombshell by announcing that multiple Republican Party lawmakers made an appeal to Trump for pardons -- and the committee has proof -- which led the Guardian's Hugo Lowell to write that any hope that they may have had that they didn't know they were doing something illegal just went down in flames.

According to his Guardian report, "The news that multiple Republicans asked the Trump White House for pardons – an apparent consciousness of guilt – was one of three revelations portending potentially perilous legal and political moments to come for Trump and his allies, adding, "The extraordinary claim also raised the prospect that the Republican members of Congress seeking clemency believed Trump’s election fraud claims were baseless: for why would they need pardons if they really were only raising legitimate questions about the election."

As Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) explained, "It’s hard to find a more explicit statement of consciousness of guilt than looking for a pardon for actions you’ve just taken, assisting in a plan to overthrow the results of a presidential election.”

Add to that, clips of former Trump aides admitting that it was common knowledge in Trump's White House that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen -- and that Trump had been told that repeatedly -- make it more likely that the Department of Justice has a growing case against Trump.

"The admissions by some of Trump’s top aides are important since they could put federal prosecutors one step closer to being able to charge Trump with obstructing an official proceeding or defrauding the United States on the basis of election fraud claims he knew were false," Lowell wrote before citing former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance wrote that "the panel appears to be trying to make is the legal doctrine of 'willful blindness'."

The report adds, "The potential case against Trump might take the form that he could not use, as his defense against charges he violated the law to stop Biden’s certification on January 6, that he believed there was election fraud, when he had been credibly notified it was 'bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns'" as it was characterized by former attorney general Bill Barr.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/12/us-capitol-attack-panel-hearings-trump-allies-trouble

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« Reply #5333 on: June 13, 2022, 12:47:48 AM »
'There will be a prosecution in Mr. Trump's future': CNN legal expert



Appearing on CNN early on Sunday morning, legal analyst Norm Eisen claimed that, whether or not the Department of Justice files criminal charges against Donald Trump, he can expect to be dragged into court in Georgia after a special grand jury hands down its decision on possible election tampering.

Speaking with host Christi Paul, Eisen first addressed the evidence presented at the first of six hearings being conducted by the House select committee investigating the Jan 6th insurrection before saying he would place his bet on Trump being indicted in Georgia first.

"I do see the evidence mounting for the new prosecutions," he told host Paul. "We have published that evidence in a big Brookings report and we have an evidence tracker that we put out after the first hearing -- listing after every hearing all the new evidence mounting towards from where we are now: a likely crime."

"That's not just me talking, that's a federal judge in California, who said Trump has likely committed crimes to proof beyond a reasonable doubt," he added. "But I think the evidence is particularly strong for a prosecution in the state of Georgia, where the Atlanta DA. has convened a special grand jury and we have that tape of Trump saying to [Georgia] Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, also expected to be a witness in these hearings -- Secretary Raffensperger just find 11,780 votes that don't exist."

"So, yes, I expect, quite likely, there will be a prosecution in Mr. Trump's future," he concluded.

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« Reply #5334 on: June 13, 2022, 01:01:05 AM »
Bombshell Pence memo 'laid bare' Trump's 'clearly illegal' plan to steal the election: MSNBC legal expert



Reacting to a bombshell report that Mike Pence was given a three-page memo from his legal counsel that clearly "laid out" an opinion that Donald Trump's demand that the former vice president overturn the 2020 election results would be illegal, former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance claimed it could be added to the growing pile of evidence against the former president.

On Saturday, Politico revealed contents of the memo, with the report stating that Pence attorney Greg Jacob wrote that "... if Pence were to embrace Trump’s demand that he single-handedly block or delay the counting of electoral votes on Jan. 6, he would be breaking multiple provisions of the Electoral Count Act, the law that has governed the transfer of power since 1887."

According to Jacob, "... the Vice President would likely find himself in an isolated standoff against both houses of Congress … with no neutral arbiter available to break the impasse.”

Appearing on MSNBC's "The Katie Phang Show," former prosecutor Vance called the memo damning for Donald Trump's defense in the Jan 6th hearings -- particularly with Jacob scheduled to testify on national TV this week.

"So, the memo is a three-page memo, it is written in plain English and it is a great read for everybody who is following along," Vance told the MSNBC host. "Because what it lays bare is the scheme that is being advanced by [Trump attorney] John Eastman and presumably President Trump is not within the confines of the law. It is very clearly illegal."

"It violates the Electoral Counts Act and these ministerial functions, like the order in which votes have to be considered from the states," she elaborated. "The Electoral Count Act requires you to go alphabetically. And Eastman has cooked up this plan that, in essence, lets Pence throw 5 to 7 states' votes back to those red-controlled state legislatures for them to say, 'oh no, we didn't mean to submit our votes for Joe Biden. Our state votes are for Donald Trump."

"Jacob does a really masterful job of walking you through the illegality and explaining why it is already been recently, at that point in time, contradicted by a ruling issued of the D.C. Court of Appeals very clearly stating that this proposal is illegal," she continued.

"Whether or not this memo was seen by the former president, we don't know," she added. "But as all of the evidence accumulates, it becomes quite clear that Trump either knew or should have known that what he was proposing violated the law and that the big lie was just that, a big lie."

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'Donald Trump absolutely knew' he was spreading the Big Lie: House committee member Raskin



Appearing on CNN's "State of the Union" with host Dana Bash, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) didn't hesitate to state that he has no doubt that Donald Trump knew he was pushing lies about the 2020 presidential election.

Raskin, one of the key members of the House select committee investigating the Jan 6th insurrection, was coy in his conversation with the CNN host about what is to come in the next five televised hearings on the Trump White House's complicity in the riot that followed the "Stop the Steal" rally, but did make his case he believes they have the former president dead to rights.

"Let me ask you about the hearing coming tomorrow," host Bash prompted. "It's going to focus on misinformation and election fraud. Your committee says that trump, quote, 'purposely' spread false information. Can you prove that Donald Trump knew he lost while he was publicly saying that he won?"

"I think we can prove to any reasonable open-minded person that Donald Trump absolutely knew because he was surrounded by lawyers, including the attorney general of the United States, William Barr, telling him in no uncertain terms, in terms Donald Trump could understand, this is BS," he replied.

"He heard it from the White House counsel, he heard it from all of the lawyers who threatened to resign if he staged his mini-coup against the Department of Justice by installing someone that would go along with his fairytale about there having been electoral fraud and corruption," he added. "I think any reasonable person in America will tell you, he had to have known he was spreading a big lie. He continues to spread it to this very day, he continues to voice that propaganda to his followers."

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