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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4284 on: November 01, 2021, 03:48:32 PM »
:D :D :D

Quit watching right wing disinformation.

Our country was destroyed by Criminal Donald and President Biden is getting America back on track.

Creating the most jobs thsn any other Administration in history, defeating the pandemic, and Biden's Build Back Better plan will transform our country.   

LOL.  In addition to numerous falsehoods and outrights lies, you are living in some type of alternative reality.  "Defeating the pandemic"!  Thousand of American citizens continue to die every day despite the availability of the vaccine from day one of Whispering Joe's administration.  The White House's own press secretary just tested positive.  I guess Jen Psaki is one of those Trump supporters living in a "red state."  Hiden's legacy includes inflation, crime, illegals flooding the border, Afghanistan fiasco, widespread labor shortages, a breakdown in the supply chain, and war on parents.  Even CNN and MSNBC are giving up on Old Joe and preparing for a Republican steamroller.  The crowd at the World Series was roaring for Trump and shouting "Let's Go Brandon" or something that sounds very similar.  The red tsunami is forming in VA. 
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4285 on: November 01, 2021, 10:50:07 PM »
LOL.  In addition to numerous falsehoods and outrights lies, you are living in some type of alternative reality.  "Defeating the pandemic"!  Thousand of American citizens continue to die every day despite the availability of the vaccine from day one of Whispering Joe's administration.  The White House's own press secretary just tested positive.  I guess Jen Psaki is one of those Trump supporters living in a "red state."  Hiden's legacy includes inflation, crime, illegals flooding the border, Afghanistan fiasco, widespread labor shortages, a breakdown in the supply chain, and war on parents.  Even CNN and MSNBC are giving up on Old Joe and preparing for a Republican steamroller.  The crowd at the World Series was roaring for Trump and shouting "Let's Go Brandon" or something that sounds very similar.  The red tsunami is forming in VA.

 BS:

There are no conspiracies or lies.

Thousands of Americans are not dying. 3 consecutive days in a row of deaths under 500.

Breakthrough infections happen with some of the population which is why anti vaxxers need to get vaccinated.

Same old right wing spin that you get from Faux.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4286 on: November 01, 2021, 10:52:38 PM »
GOP fueling dangerous cycle of extremism by embracing Trump’s ‘lost cause’ myth: historian

A Holocaust and genocide historian believes that conservatives are taking a page out of the fascist playbook by rallying around Donald Trump's election loss and turning a slain U.S. Capitol rioter into a right-wing martyr.

The right is painting itself as the innocent victim of an oppressive "cancel culture" while aggressively pushing its hypermasculine, hyper-patriotic values onto others, and historian Waitman Wade Beor described in a new Washington Post column this tactic's alarming parallels in American and European society.

"In many ways, the 'lost cause' myth is simply a refiguring of the literal aggressors of the Civil War into the valiant victims," wrote Boer, a senior lecturer in history at Northumbria University in England. "In both the lost cause and the contemporary phenomenon, what is striking is that proponents attempt an inversion of power. Though holding most of the power, victim-makers claim to be victimized by forces beyond their control."

The Nazis turned stormtrooper Horst Wessel into a martyr after the 23-year-old street brawler was shot dead in 1930, just as conservatives are painting Capitol rioter Ashlii Babbitt as a victim and comparing coronavirus mandates to the Holocaust.

"When the right associates itself with Jews in the Holocaust, it is appropriating the space reserved for victims," Boer wrote. "It is, in a sense, pushing the rightful victims out and attempting to absorb the sympathy and compassion they are owed. It is a form of re-victimization, which has as its goal negating, relativizing or erasing real suffering."

That cycle can be addicting and energizing, Boer warned, and Republicans are eagerly pushing that narrative to regain power.

"Nearly the entire Republican Party attempted to scuttle any investigation into the causes of the Jan. 6 insurrection," he wrote. "This is the first step in turning extremists into victims and then into martyrs."

"Allowing the right to weave pernicious counternarratives and to create saints from sinners will only embolden future Ashli Babbitts and spawn more violence," Boer concluded. "This is not an unreasonable prediction. Last month, a man was arrested in a molotov cocktail attack on the headquarters of the Democratic Party in Austin. The problem with creating martyrs is that they are too often born of violence and death and then used to perpetuate more violence. The cycle, as history has shown, is very hard to break."

https://www.rawstory.com/lost-cause-myth/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4287 on: November 01, 2021, 10:56:11 PM »
Lock Him Up! More new information on Criminal Donald's illegal insurance scam.

Insiders allege Trump Organization pulled off $1.3 million insurance scam

The Trump Organization filed a highly exaggerated claim of nearly $1.3 million for damages to a golf course that cost only a fraction of the payout, insiders familiar with the matter have claimed.

Sources that asked not to be identified reached out to Rolling Stone, saying that when a flood occurred at Trump National Golf Club Westchester in Briarcliff Manor, NY in 2011, the company made a claim for almost $1.3 million. However, the two insiders said that Trump Organization spent only about $130,000 to $150,000 for the actual repairs to the golf course.

One of the insiders, a former employee, added that superficial repairs were made to the damaged portions of the golf course, and that the repair work was not even completed.

“They basically band-aided it,” the ex-employee said.

The other insider explained that the insurer withheld a portion of the payout because the Trump Organization failed to show the required receipts. Both sources have direct knowledge of Trump Organization’s operations, Rolling Stone said.

a conversation with top company officials that the Trump Organization had calculated that it received over $2 back for every dollar spent on insurance. The insider went on to say that Trump Organization viewed insurance not as an expense, but as an ongoing source of profit.

Neither of the insiders have knowledge of the Trump Organization’s insurer for its Briarcliff Manor golf course, since all claims were handled by the brokerage Aon. Rolling Stone has reached out to Trump Organization and Aon for details on the insurer, but both declined to name the company.

While the Trump Organization would not name its insurer, a representative said that the company is “not aware” of any investigation into the insurance claim in question – “nor should there be an investigation,” the representative prefaced in an email statement.

“The insurance claim at issue was amicably resolved more than a decade ago following a series of well-chronicled storms across Westchester County that dumped more than five inches of rain on the Village of Briarcliff Manor causing extensive damage and flooding at the golf course and surrounding areas,” the representative said in an email to Rolling Stone.

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/insiders-allege-trump-organization-pulled-off-1-3-million-insurance-scam-315043.aspx

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4288 on: November 02, 2021, 01:12:14 AM »
Trump Organization, Already Under Indictment, Faces New Criminal Inquiry

The investigation, by the Westchester County district attorney’s office, increases the legal scrutiny of the former president and his family business.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/nyregion/trump-westchester-golf-club-investigation.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4289 on: November 02, 2021, 03:54:22 AM »
You can't make this stuff up. The GOP has turned into a deranged conspiracy cult believing in pure delusion.

Photos show QAnon believers gathering in Dallas -- where they believe JFK Jr. will reveal he's still alive
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4290 on: November 02, 2021, 12:54:39 PM »
No surprise since MAGA is a violent cult.

An 'alarming finding' -- but no surprise: Many Republicans now ready to support violence

New public opinion research from the nonprofit Public Religion Research Institute, part of its 12th annual American Values Survey, has returned alarming findings.

Close to one-third of Republicans in the survey, or 30%, agreed with the statement that "true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country." That was more than the combined total of Democrats and independents who say the same thing (at 11% and 17%, respectively).

PRRI CEO and founder Robert Jones said the large proportion of Republicans who appear ready to endorse political violence is "a direct result of former President Trump calling into question the election." Jones noted that according to the same survey, more than two-thirds of Republicans (68%) claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump, as opposed to only 26% of independents and 6% of Democrats.

The study also found that 39% of those who believed that Trump had won the 2020 election endorsed potential violence, compared to only 10% of those who rejected election misinformation. There were also signs of a split based on media consumption, with 40% of Republicans who trust far-right news sources agreeing taht violence could be necessary, compared to 32% of those who trust Fox News and 22% among those who trust mainstream outlets. In addition, respondents who said violence may be necessary are more likely to report feeling like strangers in their country, to say American culture has mostly worsened since the 1950s and to believe that God has granted America a special role in human history.

This study comes out just before Tuesday's "off-off-year" 2021 elections, with the national media focused on the race for governor in the swing state of Virginia. Republican nominee Glenn Youngkin has floated baseless conspiracy theories about the election and allowed surrogates to perpetuate Trump's Big Lie, while maintaining some distance from the most extreme claims. Youngkin has said the disgraced former president's endorsement is an "honor" and Trump has repeatedly urged his supporters to vote for Youngkin. The unexpectedly close race between Youngkin and Democrat Terry McAuliffe in a state that has largely trended Democratic since 2008 could provide an important symbolic victory for Republicans.

The PRRI survey is not the first indicator that the violent assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 may represents a trend rather than an anomaly. Ashli Babbitt, a Jan. 6 rioter killed by a Capitol police officer while attempting to force her way into a secure area, has been turned into a martyr by both Trump and many of his followers. At a recent rally in Virginia, Republicans pledged allegiance to a flag that was supposedly at the Capitol during that riot, and speakers called for Trump supporters to "monitor" election workers and officials. One Virginia election official recently described how Republican poll watchers in his state have acted with "a level of energy and sometimes aggression" and said he had received "very personal attacking, trolling emails accusing me, pre-election, of fraud and even making specific allegations of what the fraud would be."

Indeed, the idea that hypothetical voter fraud could justify violence is, in itself, something new on the American political scene. There have been accusations of fraudulent elections throughout American history — some valid, some bogus — but Trump and his supporters are alone in suggesting violence. (Of course, there was one other presidential election that led to violence: The election of 1860, which sparked the Civil War.) Trump's team lost virtually all the dozens of court cases filed over the 2020 election, and their attempt to get the results overturned was unanimously rejected by the Supreme Court. Even former Attorney General Bill Barr and many key Republican legislators rejected Trump's claims of fraud, meaning that anyone who insists Trump was the real winner presumably thinks that the nefarious conspiracy included dozens of high-ranking Republicans.

Jones, the PRRI CEO, did not mention that additional context, but perhaps did not have to. He described the results of the group's new survey "an alarming finding," adding: "I've been doing this a while, for decades, and it's not the kind of finding that as a sociologist, a public opinion pollster, that you're used to seeing."

https://www.rawstory.com/american-values/