Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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« Reply #4056 on: July 15, 2021, 08:05:37 AM »
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What we all knew what Criminal Donald attempted to do is finally being reported and it's being told by our top military Generals. Criminal Donald tried to launch a coup to illegally remain in office and he had help from his MAGA thugs who stormed and attacked our Capitol. And the right wing media along with seditious GOP members continue to spread "The Big Lie" that the election was stolen which is further inciting these right wing lunatics. Top Democrats and our military leaders were worried Criminal Donald would try to launch a nuclear strike to remain in power. It's also being reported that Criminal Donald wanted to execute the "leaker" who told the truth about Criminal Donald hiding in a bunker like a coward. And right wingers are ok with all of this because they hate America and democracy wanting to be ruled under a fascist dictatorship with Criminal Donald as their Führer. This mentally deranged lunatic needs to be brought up on treason and locked away in an insane asylum. 


Top general feared Trump's 'brownshirt' supporters would state a coup




In Phil Rucker and Carol Leonnig's new book, I Alone Can Fix It, spends ample time talking about President Donald Trump's White House through the eyes of several people watching as the end drew near. One such person was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, who revealed the horrifying scene that unfolded in the final days of the Trump administration, the Washington Post reported.

The Joint Chiefs had a moment where they actually discussed resigning, one-by-one if they were ordered by Trump to do something illegal or dangerous. Trump grew increasingly volatile as Jan. 20 grew closer and the

"It was a kind of SaPersonay Night Massacre in reverse," the Washington Post writers describe, according to a CNN excerpt.

It's a shocking tale, in large part because military members don't disobey orders, especially from the commander-in-chief.

Milley was afraid that Trump was about to stage his own coup.

"They may try, but they're not going to f*cking succeed," he said. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns."

He attended a briefing about the "Million MAGA March" that was planned in Washington to protest Trump's loss.

"Milley said he feared an American equivalent of 'brownshirts in the streets,' alluding to the paramilitary forces that protected Nazi rallies and enabled Hitler's ascent.

Many of Trump's supporters assumed that the military would have their back if they did stage an attack. Interestingly, there were many military members and veterans who attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, despite their oaths to uphold the Constitution.

Two days after Jan. 6 Milley and Pelosi spoke about the attacks, and she reminded him of the oath he swore. She asked him to "review precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating war by ordering a nuclear strike." It's a fact that many were pontificating about in columns and on cable news, but behind the scenes, the top leaders of the United States were genuinely fearful that Trump might try to launch nuclear weapons to stay in the White House.

"Ma'am, I guarentee you that we have checks and balances in the system, Milley said. He then walked her through the process.

Milley described "a stomach-churning" feeling when he heard Trump spout the complaints about the 2020 "election fraud." Milley drew "a comparison to the 1933 attack on Germany's parliament building that Hitler used as a pretext to establish a Nazi dictatorship," the Post described.

"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley told his aides. "The gospel of the Führer."

https://www.rawstory.com/milley-trump-reichstag-brownshirt-coup/



'This is a Reichstag moment': General Milley legitimately feared Trump would launch a 'coup'


On CNN Wednesday, anchor Anderson Cooper and reporter Jamie Gangel revealed stunning new information from Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker's new book "I Alone Can Fix It," detailing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff's efforts to defend the country from former President Donald Trump in his final days.

"CNN has obtained a series of excerpts, each really more alarming than the next," said Cooper. "In this one, general Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is reassuring his deputies about preventing a coup attempt. Quoting now from the book. 'They may try but they can't effing succeed,' he told them. 'We're the guys with the guns.'"

Gangel went on to explain that Milley was "shaken by Trump's behavior and planned with other military leaders to prevent him from trying to stay in office.

"They believed there really could be a coup attempt by Trump," she said. "Milley views Trump as the classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose.' And he's quoted as saying 'This is a Reichstag moment,' Milley told the aides."

Watch below:


https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2653785149/



Trump wanted to execute leaker who revealed he hid in White House bunker during protests: Former president reportedly became obsessed with finding whoever was behind the embarrassing revelation

After media outlets reported in May 2020 that then-President Trump was rushed to the White House underground bunker amid protests outside the building, Trump reportedly told some of his advisers that whoever leaked the information to the press “should be charged with treason” and “executed,” according to a new book.

The New York Times and other news outlets in May reported that Trump was held in the White House’s underground bunker, which was previously used during terrorist attacks, as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the building, shouting expletives at the president and hauling bricks and bottles following the police killing of George Floyd.

Wall Street Journal reporter Michael Bender writes in his new book, “Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost,” that the president complained about the leak of information regarding the bunker during a meeting with top military, law enforcement and West Wing advisers.

“Trump boiled over about the bunker story as soon as they arrived and shouted at them to smoke out whoever had leaked it. It was the most upset some aides had ever seen the president,” Bender writes, according to an excerpt obtained by CNN.

The book says that Trump yelled, “Whoever did that, they should be charged with treason!” and “They should be executed!”

The book is set to be released on Tuesday.

Bender writes that then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows “repeatedly tried to calm the president as startled aides avoided eye contact.”

“I'm on it. We're going to find out who did it,” Meadows reportedly told Trump.

According to Bender, Trump “repeatedly asked Meadows if he’d found the leaker.”

Meadows reportedly became “obsessed” with tracking down the source.

Bender wrote that people who heard Trump’s warning “had interpreted the outburst as a sign of a president in panic.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/562792-trump-said-whoever-leaked-information-about-stay-in-white-house

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4057 on: July 15, 2021, 09:21:58 AM »
Incredible. The anti-vaxers are having an incredible influence on certain state governments and the people.

Is it any wonder that more than half the people think there was a conspiracy to kill JFK? If you can convince people to not get vaccinated, you can convince them of a conspiracy theory. Nonsense can be sold to the masses very effectively.


The GOP is now a cult. In fact it is a death cult. There is no more Grand Old Party anymore. It's been taken over by white supremacists, neo nazis, and radical conspiracy theorist Qanon lunatics who all worship one orange criminal named Donald Trump. If a Republican happens to speak out against the insanity, they will crucify that person and viciously attack them and try to strip them from their positions. That's what they did to Liz Cheney who is a right winger herself but even they are too extreme for her taste. 

The bad thing about it is these anti vaxxers hold important positions in state government and they are voting to close down vaccination centers and the laws they pass are affecting the health and lives of their constituents. Their decisions are all based on bogus Qanon conspiracy theories that hold no merit whatsoever.

Not only that, the right wing media (which dominates radio, cable, and local ABC, NBC, ABC television affiliates)  religiously parrots these lies about the vaccines and the sheep who watch daily believe every single word of it. Having Qanon lunatics like Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene in Congress spouting anti vaccine rhetoric doesn't help and only adds to the disinformation. Even worse, these Qanon lunatics are now running for office at local and state levels trying to infiltrate our government positions with their Qanon lunacy.   

These conspiracy theorists will believe any nonsense that is thrown at them which also makes it dangerous when you have a lunatic like Donald Trump giving them orders because they will do whatever he says. The insurrection is a perfect example of that. Trump told them to go to the Capitol and they did as they were viciously beating police officers, breaking inside the Capitol in a violent mass mob, and chanting to kill members of Congress they didn't like. And once again, it was all based on another lie and conspiracy theory. Criminal Donald lost the election in a blowout and he made up "The Big Lie" that the election was stolen from him and his henchmen made up bogus conspiracy theories. Now these right wing congressmen who were afraid for their lives that day are now spreading new conspiracy theories along with the right wing media that an insurrection never happened. It's all on video and the MAGA thugs are being arrested but they still want to lie about it and again the sheep who are watching believe all their lies.   

Yes, the GOP is now just a dangerous death cult because they have no regard for human life. They don't care that the lies they tell are killing Americans. They don't care that wearing a mask, social distancing, and getting vaccinated will save lives. They are against that and broadcast lies encouraging people not to wear masks, social distance, and not to get vaccinated. 

Right wingers were even calling to sacrifice senior citizens to the virus early last year. Now failed Governor and Trump stooge Ron DeSantis is refusing to have children wear masks in school to protect them from getting COVID and spreading it to their family. A woman in Missouri recently died from COVID-19 because she refused to get vaccinated. Do you know how she got infected? Her kid contracted the virus in school and it infected her family. And we had right wingers all crying for schools to re-open during a pandemic so more mass infections and deaths will happen. Like I said before, these right wingers have no regard for human life and live each day based on lies and bogus conspiracy theories. What a way to live.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4058 on: July 15, 2021, 03:10:58 PM »
Exclusive: More information is coming out about the mentally ill and incompetent Russian stooge Criminal Donald who was installed by the Kremlin but right wingers refused to believe it. Since he can no longer tweet because he was banned on Twitter, we will see an angry press release today where he will write in all caps...HOAX! 


Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House:  Exclusive Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

By this point Trump was the frontrunner in the Republican party’s nomination race. A report prepared by Putin’s expert department recommended Moscow use “all possible force” to ensure a Trump victory.

Western intelligence agencies are understood to have been aware of the documents for some months and to have carefully examined them. The papers, seen by the Guardian, seem to represent a serious and highly unusual leak from within the Kremlin.

The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking.



Vladimir Putin holds a meeting with permanent members of the security council on 22 January 2016 at the Kremlin


The Kremlin responded dismissively. Putin’s spokesman Dmitri Peskov said the idea that Russian leaders had met and agreed to support Trump in at the meeting in early 2016 was “a great pulp fiction” when contacted by the Guardian on Thursday morning.

The report – “No 32-04 \ vd” – is classified as secret. It says Trump is the “most promising candidate” from the Kremlin’s point of view. The word in Russian is perspektivny.

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”.

The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains.

"It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says.


 
This extract from a secret Kremlin document gives details of the Russian operation to help an impulsive and ‘mentally unstable’ Donald Trump to become US president


This would help bring about Russia’s favoured “theoretical political scenario”. A Trump win “will definitely lead to the destabilisation of the US’s sociopolitical system” and see hidden discontent burst into the open, it predicts.

The Kremlin summit

There is no doubt that the meeting in January 2016 took place – and that it was convened inside the Kremlin.

An official photo of the occasion shows Putin at the head of the table, seated beneath a Russian Federation flag and a two-headed golden eagle. Russia’s then prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, attended, together with the veteran foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

Also present were Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister in charge of the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency; Mikhail Fradkov, the then chief of Russia’s SVR foreign intelligence service; and Alexander Bortnikov, the boss of the FSB spy agency.Nikolai Patrushev, the FSB’s former director, attended too as security council secretary.

According to a press release, the discussion covered the economy and Moldova.

The document seen by the Guardian suggests the security council’s real, covert purpose was to discuss the confidential proposals drawn up by the president’s analytical service in response to US sanctions against Moscow.



Donald Trump after winning the Florida state primary in West Palm Beach, Florida, in March 2016. A report prepared by Putin’s expert department recommended Moscow use ‘all possible force’ to ensure a Trump presidential victory


The author appears to be Vladimir Symonenko, the senior official in charge of the Kremlin’s expert department – which provides Putin with analytical material and reports, some of them based on foreign intelligence.

The papers indicate that on 14 January 2016 Symonenko circulated a three-page executive summary of his team’s conclusions and recommendations.

In a signed order two days later, Putin instructed the then chief of his foreign policy directorate, Alexander Manzhosin, to convene a closed briefing of the national security council.

Its purpose was to further study the document, the order says. Manzhosin was given a deadline of five days to make arrangements.

What was said inside the second-floor Kremlin senate building room is unknown. But the president and his intelligence officials appear to have signed off on a multi-agency plan to interfere in US democracy, framed in terms of justified self-defence.

Various measures are cited that the Kremlin might adopt in response to what it sees as hostile acts from Washington. The paper lays out several American weaknesses. These include a “deepening political gulf between left and right”, the US’s “media-information” space, and an anti-establishment mood under President Barack Obama.



The ‘special part’ of a secret Kremlin document setting out measures to cause turmoil and division in America


The paper does not name Hillary Clinton, Trump’s 2016 rival. It does suggest employing media resources to undermine leading US political figures.

There are paragraphs on how Russia might insert “media viruses” into American public life, which could become self-sustaining and self-replicating. These would alter mass consciousness, especially in certain groups, it says.

After the meeting, according to a separate leaked document, Putin issued a decree setting up a new and secret interdepartmental commission. Its urgent task was to realise the goals set out in the “special part” of document No 32-04 \ vd.

Members of the new working body were stated to include Shoigu, Fradkov and Bortnikov. Shoigu was named commission chair. The decree – ukaz in Russian – said the group should take practical steps against the US as soon as possible. These were justified on national security grounds and in accordance with a 2010 federal law, 390-FZ, which allows the council to formulate state policy on security matters.

According to the document, each spy agency was given a role. The defence minister was instructed to coordinate the work of subdivisions and services. Shoigu was also responsible for collecting and systematising necessary information and for “preparing measures to act on the information environment of the object” – a command, it seems, to hack sensitive American cyber-targets identified by the SVR.

The SVR was told to gather additional information to support the commission’s activities. The FSB was assigned counter-intelligence. Putin approved the apparent document, dated 22 January 2016, which his chancellery stamped.

The measures were effective immediately on Putin’s signature, the decree says. The spy chiefs were given just over a week to come back with concrete ideas, to be submitted by 1 February.

Written in bureaucratic language, the papers appear to offer an unprecedented glimpse into the usually hidden world of Russian government decision-making.

Putin has repeatedly denied accusations of interfering in western democracy. The documents seem to contradict this claim. They suggest the president, his spy officers and senior ministers were all intimately involved in one of the most important and audacious espionage operations of the 21st century: a plot to help put the “mentally unstable” Trump in the White House.

The papers appear to set out a route map for what actually happened in 2016.

A matter of weeks after the security council meeting, GRU hackers raided the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and subsequently released thousands of private emails in an attempt to hurt Clinton’s election campaign.

The report seen by the Guardian features details redolent of Russian intelligence work, diplomatic sources say. The thumbnail sketch of Trump’s personality is characteristic of Kremlin spy agency analysis, which places great emphasis on building up a profile of individuals using both real and cod psychology.

Moscow would gain most from a Republican victory, the paper states. This could lead to a “social explosion” that would in turn weaken the US president, it says. There were international benefits from a Trump win, it stresses. Putin would be able in clandestine fashion to dominate any US-Russia bilateral talks, to deconstruct the White House’s negotiating position, and to pursue bold foreign policy initiatives on Russia’s behalf, it says.

Other parts of the multi-page report deal with non-Trump themes. It says sanctions imposed by the US after Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea have contributed to domestic tensions. The Kremlin should seek alternative ways of attracting liquidity into the Russian economy, it concludes.

The document recommends the reorientation of trade and hydrocarbon exports towards China. Moscow’s focus should be to influence the US and its satellite countries, it says, so they drop sanctions altogether or soften them.

Spell-binding’ documents

Andrei Soldatov, an expert on Russia’s spy agencies and author of The Red Web, said the leaked material “reflects reality”. “It’s consistent with the procedures of the security services and the security council,” he said. “Decisions are always made like that, with advisers providing information to the president and a chain of command.”

He added: “The Kremlin micromanages most of these operations. Putin has made it clear to his spies since at least 2015 that nothing can be done independently from him. There is no room for independent action.” Putin decided to release stolen DNC emails following a security council meeting in April 2016, Soldatov said, citing his own sources.

Sir Andrew Wood, the UK’s former ambassador in Moscow and an associate fellow at the Chatham House thinktank, described the documents as “spell-binding”. “They reflect the sort of discussion and recommendations you would expect. There is a complete misunderstanding of the US and China. They are written for a person [Putin] who can’t believe he got anything wrong.”

Wood added: “There is no sense Russia might have made a mistake by invading Ukraine. The report is fully in line with the sort of thing I would expect in 2016, and even more so now. There is a good deal of paranoia. They believe the US is responsible for everything. This view is deeply dug into the soul of Russia’s leaders.”

Trump did not respond to a request for comment.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

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'Beyond Putin's wildest dreams': Kremlin's backing of Trump had goal to 'alter mass consciousness in certain groups'

A leaked document obtained by the Guardian indicates that the Kremlin ordered its spying agencies to back Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election.

During a closed January 22, 2016 national security session in Russia, according to the document, Russian President Vladimir Putin authorized a spying agency to back the "mentally unstable" Trump for president of the United States.

The document reads, "It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his election to the post of U.S. president."

According to Guardian reporters Luke Harding, Julian Borger and Dan Sabbagh, "The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present. They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow's strategic objectives, among them 'social turmoil' in the U.S. and a weakening of the American president's negotiating position. Russia's three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin's signature."

https://www.rawstory.com/beyond-putin-s-wildest-dreams-kremlin-s-backing-of-trump-had-goal-to-alter-mass-consciousness-in-certain-groups/


Leaked Kremlin documents suggest Putin holds blackmail leverage over Trump -- and that's why Russia backed him

A leaked document appears to confirm rumors that the Kremlin holds blackmail leverage over former president Donald Trump.

Russian president Vladimir Putin personally authorized a secret spy agency to back "mentally unstable" Trump for U.S. president during a Jan. 22, 2016, closed session of that country's national security council, according to what appears to be leaked Kremlin documents obtained by The Guardian.

"It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump's] election to the post of U.S. president," the paper says.

The documents include a brief psychological assessment of Trump as "impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex," and also refer to "certain events" that happened during his previous trips to Moscow.

More details about those events are listed in an appendix to that document, but that portion of the papers remains undisclosed.

Those present agreed that Trump in the White House would help Russia create "social turmoil" in the U.S. and weaken the American presidency, two of Moscow's top strategic objectives.

A decree appearing to bear Putin's signature authorized Russia's three spy agencies to work toward getting Trump elected, as the former reality TV star and celebrity businessman was emerging as the Republican Party's presidential frontrunner.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-kompromat/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4060 on: July 16, 2021, 12:23:19 AM »
Just more of the dangerous lies being pushed by the repulsive anti vaxx Faux hack Laura Ingraham on her propaganda show. Her anti vaccine lies are killing Americans. This disinformation network needs to have their broadcasting license revoked until they stop pushing outright lies that are killing Americans. And why would this Missouri woman believe that COVID is "exaggerated" even though her own daughter is in the hospital? Because she swallows all the COVID lies she hears on hack shows like Laura Ingraham and from other right wing hacks who are continuously pumping COVID-19 disinformation daily. People believe these lies and they aren't taking COVID seriously. Then they end up spreading the virus to others, end up getting sick themselves, and then eventually die. This is the GOP Pro Death Party at work. Everything right wingers accuse others of is projection. The right wing media IS the Fake News.               


Just plain false: Fox News guest says ‘no reason’ to get vaccinated as host claims hospitalizations ‘way down’





Fox News moving even further toward being fully anti-vaxx.

Tuesday night on the conservative channel's "Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham booked Dr. Peter McCullough, who falsely told America, "There's no reason right now, no clinical reason to go get vaccinated."

That's just plain false, according to the CDC and credible medical professionals.

“Virtually all Covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths in United States are now occurring among unvaccinated individuals," White House coronavirus response coordinator Jeff Zients said last week. Almost no fully vaccinated patients have been admitted to hospitals.

Ingraham herself wrongly claimed – or creatively framed – her response.

"Deaths and hospitalizations in almost everywhere is down. Way down."

That too is just plain false – hospitalizations are up.

Just look at these headlines over the past 24 hours:

Spike in hospitalizations due to Delta variant underscores need for COVID-19 vaccination, experts say

Young, unvaccinated people are being hospitalized with Covid-19 as delta variant spreads, officials warn

Covid-19 cases are surging in 46 states. In one hot spot, hospitalized patients are younger than ever, doctor says


Notice she left out the rise in coronavirus cases. The daily average of coronavirus cases has more than doubled over the past two weeks, and hospitalizations are also on the rise.

Dr. McCullough on Wednesday wrongly claimed "the Delta variant really is not responsive at all, or protected by the vaccines."

That is a curious construction. Vaccines protect people, not viruses. And vaccine manufacturers have said the current slate of US vaccines do protect against the Delta variant.

McCullough is a cardiologist and an affiliate professor at Texas A&M College of Medicine.

He also claims "42% of 90,000 Delta cases in the UK have been vaccinated."

NCRM could find nothing that accurately substantiates that claim.

The vaccine is well over 90% effective in preventing infection, but for those who are infected after being fully inoculated, symptoms are almost always mild and do not require hospitalization. The number of fully vaccinated Americans who have died from coronavirus is infinitesimally small.

The Associated Press late last month reported "only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average."

Dr. McCullough acknowledges to Fox News viewers there will be a "mild rise" in coronavirus Delta variant cases for vaccinated people, says those cases are "easily treatable in high risk patients," but then says, falsely: "There's no reason right now, no clinical reason to go get vaccinated."

NCRM has reached out to Dr. McCullough but did not immediately receive a response.

Watch video in link below:

https://www.rawstory.com/just-plain-false-fox-news-guest-says-no-reason-to-get-vaccinated-as-host-claims-hospitalizations-way-down/



Missouri woman still thinks COVID is 'exaggerated' -- even as it lands her daughter in the hospital




The Delta variant of COVID-19 is ravaging Springfield, Missouri, but many residents are still doubting the science of the pandemic and refusing to get vaccinated, according to a new report in The Washington Post.

"Springfield, a city of 170,000 nestled in the Ozarks, has become a cautionary tale for how the more transmissible delta variant, now estimated to account for half of all new cases nationwide, can ravage poorly vaccinated communities and return them to the darkest days of the pandemic," the newspaper reported.

The report came one week after Springfield Fire Department Chief David Pennington warned the outbreak was a "mass casualty event, happening in slow-motion."

The Post interviewed several people in the city to try to get a sense of why they were still not getting vaccinated or taking precautions despite the surging case totals in their area.

"Several shoppers, who declined to give their names, described the reports about the delta variant outbreak as 'overblown,' 'exaggerated' and a 'crock of sh*t,' reported the Post. "One woman said that her daughter was hospitalized in an intensive care unit with covid-19 but that she thinks the numbers are exaggerated."

Read the full report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/15/springfield-missouri-delta-outbreak/

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« Reply #4061 on: July 16, 2021, 12:33:08 AM »
Nicole Wallace claims Mike Pence feared 'a conspiracy' where rogue Secret Service would kidnap him to help Trump

Two shocking reports were revealed Thursday as part of Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker's new book, I Alone Can Fix It, and MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace.

Wallace, a former communications official in George W. Bush's White House evidently, called her own GOP sources.

"What the book allows us to do is stop using the words 'struggled with,' 'tried and failed,'" she said of Republicans. "They failed to protect the country from Donald Trump. They failed. They failed to protect Mike Pence from Donald Trump. I want to read more about Mike Pence's experience on January 6th."

During her afternoon show "Deadline White House," Wallace read an excerpt of the Leonnig and Rucker book describing Vice President Mike Pence being rushed to safety with his family during the siege on the U.S. Capitol.

"At 2:26, after a team of agents scouted a safe path to ensure the Pences would not encounter trouble, Giebels and the rest of Pence's detail guided them down a staircase to a secure subterranean area that rioters couldn't reach, where the vice president's armored limousine awaited. Giebels asked Pence to get in one of the vehicles," the book described.

"We can hold here," Giebels told Pence.

"I'm not getting in the car, Tim," Pence told him. "I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car."

They found a secure underground area where they waited instead, the book explained.

At the White House, ret. Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, Pence's national security adviser, ran into Tony Ornato who oversaw the Secret Service movements. Ornato told Kellogg that they were going to take Pence to Joint Base Andrews.

"You can't do that, Tony," Kellogg said. "Leave him where he's at. He's got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You'll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don't do it."

Wallace then painted an even more dire picture.

"Pence feared a conspiracy, feared that the Secret Service would aid Trump and his ultimate aims that day," said Wallace. "This is the most harrowing version of Mike Pence's day I've seen reported."

The U.S. Secret Service doesn't comment on their procedures, including what the procedure would have been in this case.

Read the full excerpt at the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/15/jan-6-i-alone-can-fix-it-book-excerpt/

See the video of Wallace discussing the book with her panel below:


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« Reply #4062 on: July 16, 2021, 03:39:36 PM »
Gen. Milley's other 'nightmare scenario' revealed: Trump pushed Iran strike in desperate bid to retain power

Gen. Mark Milley's fears that former president Donald Trump would launch a Nazi-style "coup" to retain his grip on power have been widely reported in recent days.

But Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had also prepared for another "nightmare scenario" that could serve as Trump's so-called "Reichstag moment."

Trump desperately wanted to launch airstrikes against Iran, and in fact came "very close" to starting a war with the Middle East's second-largest country, according to a report from the New Yorker's Susan B. Glasser, who conducted more than 200 interviews for a book about the Trump presidency that will be published next year.

"This dangerous post-election period, Milley said, was all because of Trump's 'Hitler'-like embrace of the 'Big Lie' that the election had been stolen from him; Milley feared it was Trump's 'Reichstag moment,' in which, like Adolf Hitler in 1933, he would manufacture a crisis in order to swoop in and rescue the nation from it," Glasser reports.

"A running concern for Milley was the prospect of Trump pushing the nation into a military conflict with Iran. He saw this as a real threat, in part because of a meeting with the President in the early months of 2020, at which one of Trump's advisers raised the prospect of taking military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons if Trump were to lose the election," she writes. "At another meeting, at which Trump was not present, some of the President's foreign-policy advisers again pushed military action against Iran. Milley later said that, when he asked why they were so intent on attacking Iran, Vice-President Mike Pence replied, 'Because they are evil.'"

In the wake of the November election, Trump repeatedly raised the subject of Iran in White House meetings, as the president "kept pushing for a missile strike in response to various provocations against U.S. interests in the region," Glasser reports.

But Milley pushed back: "If you do this, you're gonna have a f*cking war," he reportedly told the president.

On Jan. 3, after Trump flew back from his Christmas vacation at Mar-a-Lago, he convened yet another meeting about Iran to ask his advisers "about recent reports from the International Atomic Energy Agency on Iran's nuclear activities."

But Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national-security adviser, Robert O'Brien reportedly convinced Trump that it was "too late to hit them," because his presidency would soon end.

"After Milley walked through the potential costs and consequences, Trump agreed. And that was that: after months of anxiety and uncertainty, the Iran fight was over."

At this same meeting — which marks the last time Trump and Milley spoke — Trump reportedly asked his advisers if they were prepared for the upcoming "wild" rally by his supporters on Jan. 6.

"It's gonna be a big deal," Milley heard Trump say. "You're ready for that, right?"

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Former Trump official: GOP has become America's biggest 'national security threat'

In an interview with MSNBC's Jason Johnson, a former Department of Homeland Security official who served under former president Donald Trump claims that he believes the Republican Party has become a threat to the security of the country and warned what could happen if they reclaim the House and the Senate in the 2022 midterms.

According to Miles Taylor -- a Republican who served as chief of staff at the DHS until 2019 before leaving in disgust -- should the GOP take over the House, current House minority leader Kevin McCarthy will likely be Donald Trump's puppet if he is handed the gavel by his party.

"The number one national security threat I've ever seen in my life to this country's democracy is the party that I'm in, the Republican Party," Taylor warned. "If my party retakes the House of Representatives in the next cycle, it's going to become a haunted house. And the ghoul and the specter haunting that house is going to be Donald Trump."

Taylor also took a shot at McCarthy, reminding the senior Republican that the GOP lost the White House, the Senate and the House during Trump's four years.

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'We were just there to overthrow the government': Report shines light on Trump's 'most hardcore rallygoers'

Although former President Donald Trump was decisively voted out of office in 2020 and has been gone from the White House for almost six months, he continues to be the most influential figure in the Republican Party. Countless GOP politicians are afraid to publicly say a word against him, and his MAGA rallies still attract unquestioning, cult-like followers. Wall Street Journal reporter Michael C. Bender examines the type of MAGA devotees who faithfully attend those rallies in an excerpt from his book, "Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost."

The Washington Post published an excerpt from the book this week, and in the excerpt, Bender discusses a "group of Trump's most hardcore rallygoers" known as the Front Row Joes.

Bender says of the Front Row Joes he has interviewed, "They were mostly older White men and women who lived paycheck to paycheck with plenty of time on their hands — retired or close to it, estranged from their families or otherwise without children — and Trump had, in a surprising way, made their lives richer. The president himself almost always spent the night in his own bed and kept few close friends. But his rallies gave the Joes a reason to travel the country, staying at one another's homes, sharing hotel rooms and carpooling."

One of the Front Row Joes that Bender interviewed was Saundra Kiczenski, a 56-year-old Michigan resident who traveled to Ohio for a MAGA rally in June. Discussing the January 6 insurrection — which she obviously views falsely as a peaceful protest — Kiczenski told Bender, "It's ridiculous those people are in prison for no reason. And it's a shame because if Donald Trump were still the president, they'd all be free."

Yet despite saying there was no reason the rioters should be in prison, she was open about the real motivation behind the event.

"We weren't there to steal things. We weren't there to do damage," she said. "We were just there to overthrow the government."

The COVID-19 pandemic, according to Bender, did not discourage Front Row Joes from traveling around the U.S. for MAGA rallies in 2020. The Joes, Bender observes, fully embrace "alternative facts" — whether it's the claim that COVID-19 isn't dangerous or the bogus claim that now-President Joe Biden stole the election.

"While most Americans only occasionally left their homes, the pandemic proved a blessing for Kiczenski's Trump travel plans," Bender explains. "She bought cheap airfare, repeatedly basked in the extravagance of an airplane aisle all to herself and logged more flights in 2020 than at any other point in her life. She attended 25 Trump rallies, boosting her total to 56. She spent 79 nights of the year away from her bed. Kiczenski traveled so often during the pandemic that a Delta flight attendant thanked her for being a Silver Medallion member and upgraded her to first class; she initially assumed it was a mistake."

Not surprisingly, Kiczenski buys into the Big Lie — continuing to believe the false, debunked claim that Trump was a victim of widespread voter fraud in 2020.

Kiczenski told Bender, "If someone put a gun to my head and said: 'Did Donald Trump win, yes or no? And if you're wrong, we're going to shoot your head off!' I would say yes. I'm that confident that this stuff is not made up."

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'Most terrified I've ever been': Reporter describes learning 'extremely alarming' details of Trump's final days

Reporter Susan Glasser on Friday told CNN's Jake Tapper that she felt personally unnerved while reporting out details of former President Donald Trump's final days.

While discussing her most recent article in the New Yorker about Trump's fights with General Mark Milley in the waning weeks of his administration, Glasser explained to Tapper that it was unprecedented for American military leaders to view the sitting commander-in-chief as a potential national security threat.

"You know, when I first learned about the level of alarm that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had through the election and all the way into January, I have to say it was probably the most terrified I've ever been as a reporter in several decades," said Glasser, who has also reported from American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

She said she was relieved to see that Milley and other top military commanders had done their best to hold Trump in check, but still found it frightening just how far the twice-impeached former president was willing to go.

"It was extremely alarming," she said. "On the one hand I suppose it's reassuring to understand that we have a class of generals at the very top rank who really do worship, I believe, the Constitution... but this is unprecedented stuff."

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