Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3696 on: February 17, 2021, 10:35:07 PM »
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So.....what gaslighting tactics are being deployed?   The fact that it pointed out the high death rate in New York due to Cuomo's criminal negligence?  Or is it pointing out the high crime rates and looting going on in the major cities that is not being addressed?  Maybe it is the constant flow of immigrants coming across a border looking for a better life than what they had in another country? What is being done to address these issues?

The article is just saying to put perspective on what you are seeing?   Is anyone doing anything about inner city violence or is it just good to let it play itself out and have a lawless society?    Are the governments concerned about gang warfare and violence against human beings in these cities?  We don't see any protection used for citizens and society when compared to politicians.   5000 troops in Washington while people die everyday in cities due to lawlessness and violence and most of the time it is not white on black or asian - there are within race problems that no one seems to care about.  'Does it make sense' is all the article is saying!   According to you , nothing should be questioned or addressed!   

Is this gaslighting too?  I suspect it is.  What is being promoted with these statements? Peace and harmony?

Not if Trump zombies can help it. So you use a dictionary to make it look like somebody is gaslighting somebody. All you wind up with is looking like a gaslighter yourself and an ugly graphic.

You strike the same damn 'woe-is-me' tone as the righty-blogosphere propagandists. Stop whining.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3697 on: February 17, 2021, 10:48:13 PM »
The gaslighting article in question is from 'America Out Loud', yet another righty pro-Trump group still claiming the election was a fraud.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3698 on: February 17, 2021, 11:07:49 PM »
Not if Trump zombies can help it. So you use a dictionary to make it look like somebody is gaslighting somebody. All you wind up with is looking like a gaslighter yourself and an ugly graphic.

You strike the same damn 'woe-is-me' tone as the righty-blogosphere propagandists. Stop whining.
Most of the political discussions on the internet - the vast majority in America today - from the left or right - is grievance driven. Whining and complaining. Somebody or something or someone is the cause of the problems in the US. Nobody is responsible for the plight they are in. It's always something else.

As in: if Trump wasn't President the pandemic would have been solved. Or greatly mitigated. All of those deaths are due to him. And yet Andrew Cuomo is given a pass. Please.

And I could reverse that as well.



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« Reply #3699 on: February 17, 2021, 11:41:05 PM »
Most of the political discussions on the internet - the vast majority in America today - from the left or right - is grievance driven. Whining and complaining. Somebody or something or someone is the cause of the problems in the US. Nobody is responsible for the plight they are in. It's always something else.

As in: if Trump wasn't President the pandemic would have been solved. Or greatly mitigated. All of those deaths are due to him. And yet Andrew Cuomo is given a pass. Please.

And I could reverse that as well.

Trump was never a true POTUS.

'Kung Flu'
'Its a hoax'
'It will magically go away'
'Don't wear a mask'
'I was just joking'
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3700 on: February 18, 2021, 12:47:14 AM »
Most of the political discussions on the internet - the vast majority in America today - from the left or right - is grievance driven. Whining and complaining. Somebody or something or someone is the cause of the problems in the US. Nobody is responsible for the plight they are in. It's always something else.

As in: if Trump wasn't President the pandemic would have been solved. Or greatly mitigated. All of those deaths are due to him. And yet Andrew Cuomo is given a pass. Please.

And I could reverse that as well.

Here's another one who wants to attack Andrew Cuomo and deflect blame away from Criminal Donald.

Was Andrew Cuomo informed in November 2019 by U.S. intelligence that a deadly pandemic was coming?

Was Andrew Cuomo briefed twice in January about how devastating the coronavirus was going to be?

Did Andrew Cuomo have the ability to get the crucial resources he needed for New York without obtaining them from the federal government first?

No.

That was the responsibility of Criminal Donald and he completely ignored all 3 warnings and refused to help blue states combat the virus.

According to right wingers, it's all Andrew Cuomo's fault that the Trump Virus decimated the United States.

We elect a President for one reason and it's his responsibility to protect Americans. He failed. President Joe Biden has done more about COVID-19 in less than a month than Criminal Donald did in a year.   

Other counties controlled the virus so it can be done. Criminal Donald ignored it altogether until it exploded and then he covered it all up.     
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3701 on: February 18, 2021, 01:09:00 AM »
President Biden and his Administration are spinning on this issue, trying to lowball things to make it appear they are accomplishing more. Every Administration in my lifetime does this type of "message massaging."

They are waving their hands and making motions to appear to be doing things more than are already in the vaccine pipeline. That most of the media is swallowing this is an indictment of them.

This Administration's polices on school openings is just awful. They are kowtowing to the teacher's unions and they should be hammered for it. There is no scientific argument for what they are advocating. But most of the media worked so hard to get Biden elected that they are reluctant to go after him: he's their guy and they are loathed to criticize him.

Trump was a dreadful president. His actions contributing to that disgusting riot at the Capitol were shameful. But that doesn't excuse the Biden's Administration spinning and dishonesty. We need the same standard applied to every Administration.

 :D :D :D

How ridiculous. President Biden has only been on the job for less than a month and people like Steve expect this coronavirus disaster to be solved immediately after Criminal Donald allowed it to decimate the United States for over a year. 

President Biden's Administration isn't "spinning" on any issue. They are undertaking a massive effort in which they were handed a disaster that was left for them to handle. They have to make sure everything is in order first before they make an executive decision. Criminal Donald had no plan and any plan he did have was totally inept and incompetent.     

The vaccine roll out and management is a perfect example. Criminal Donald passed up on securing millions of doses of vaccine for Americans. The vaccinations were well below than what they were claiming. President Biden immediately secured 600 million more vaccine doses where by July every American will be able to get vaccinated. About 2 million shots per day are being performed where people now have access to get shots at pharmacies. We never would have had any of this if Criminal Donald was still in office. It would have taken several months to get the people vaccinated that were vaccinated in the last 2 weeks. It would have taken another year or more to get all Americans the vaccine they needed. Criminal Donald failed and President Biden is saving Americans. That's why Biden was elected in an election blowout.         


US 'on track' to have enough vaccine for all by end of July; expanded testing planned for schools: Latest COVID-19 updates
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/17/covid-news-joe-biden-variant-vaccine-teachers/6771794002/


Biden Administration purchases additional doses of COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Department of Defense (DOD) have purchased an additional 100 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines from both Pfizer Inc. and Moderna Inc. to help meet demand for COVID-19 vaccines in the United States.

The orders placed today bring the vaccine purchased by the U.S. government from these two companies to a total of 600 million doses, enough to vaccinate 300 million people. Each company is delivering 300 million doses in regular increments through the end of July 2021. Each company will leverage U.S.-based manufacturing capacity to fill, finish and ship vials as the bulk material is produced.

“As the President directed, we are expanding our supply of COVID vaccines to protect people as quickly as possible,” said Acting HHS Secretary Norris Cochran. “These purchases will allow us to accelerate our vaccination efforts to get shots into the arms of the American people. While we rapidly ramp up the pace of vaccinations, I encourage everyone to take actions now to protect themselves and their families: wear a mask, wash your hands often, and practice physical distancing.”

The companies began manufacturing doses of their vaccines at the same time that clinical trials were getting underway last year. Beginning the complex process of scaling up to large-scale manufacturing in parallel with clinical trials expedited the traditional vaccine development timeline so that initial doses could begin shipping when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted emergency use authorization.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/02/11/biden-administration-purchases-additional-doses-covid-19-vaccines-from-pfizer-and-moderna.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3702 on: February 18, 2021, 01:28:00 AM »
Where is his plan to defeat the Kaiser before 1923?  You can do it Joe!  Old Joe doesn't know what decade it is much less have any plan.  And his administration sets the bar so low that if they did nothing it would still be achieved.  Like 100 million vaccines in 100 days.  LOL. Something that was already on track when he took over.  That is a shell game for the rubes like yourself.  You know China Joe is a corrupt incompetent.  He has achieved nothing in 50 years in office.  Your cheerleading has nothing to do with him.

 :D :D :D

Steve Bannon said Trump has dementia and tried to remove him via 25th Amendment.

100 million was never on track because Criminal Donald fell well below than what he was claiming. 

Criminal Donald wasn't even getting 1 million shots per day.

President Biden is getting nearly 2 million shots per day.

Richard is unable to understand math and numbers.

2 million shots per day exceeds 100 million shots in 100 days.

Richard can only repeat his same nonsense over and over because he has nothing else.

Another failed attempt at gaslighting.

Richard should be rooting for President Biden to destroy this Trump Virus but he only wants to attack our President for saving lives. What kind of a person would do that?

Steve Bannon believed Donald Trump had early-stage dementia and started covert campaign to use 25th Amendment to remove him from office
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9267077/Bannon-believed-Trump-early-stage-dementia-started-25th-Amendment-campaign.html

U.S. vaccinations in 2020 fall far short of target of 20 million people
DECEMBER 31, 2020

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-vaccinations/u-s-vaccinations-in-2020-fall-far-short-of-target-of-20-million-people-idUSKBN29512W

Vaccine numbers below target set for end of December
https://www.axios.com/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-december-target-418a9ba7-02e2-417d-b2dc-f552dd9d4f5d.html

Biden on track to blow past goal of 100 million shots in 100 days
https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/white-house-us-vaccinating-1-point-7-million-per-day-on-average/507-8c2129c5-f886-4238-a610-3aef4b7625c6

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3703 on: February 18, 2021, 02:08:44 AM »
So.....what gaslighting tactics are being deployed?   The fact that it pointed out the high death rate in New York due to Cuomo's criminal negligence?  Or is it pointing out the high crime rates and looting going on in the major cities that is not being addressed?  Maybe it is the constant flow of immigrants coming across a border looking for a better life than what they had in another country? What is being done to address these issues?

Mr. Fritzke doesn't want to address the high death rate in Texas which currently stands at 41,728 and has been the worst state with COVID deaths in the last 6 months. Instead he wants to push disinformation attacking minorities and immigrants like these far right wing extremists have been doing. This is another reason why Criminal Donald lost the election in a blowout.

Not word about the criminal negligence of Trump stooge Texas Governor Greg Abbott who is killing Texans with
COVID-19 and is allowing Texans to freeze to death with no power during the worst winter storm in a decade.

People like Fritzke want to attack Cuomo instead of the Criminal negligence of Criminal Donald who refused to combat the virus and work with Cuomo. Criminal Donald never told us the virus was airborne as he mocked wearing masks that prevents people from breathing in the airborne virus.       

Trump admits telling Pence not to call governors
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/27/trump-pence-governors-call-coronavirus-sot-vpx.cnn

The article is just saying to put perspective on what you are seeing? Is anyone doing anything about inner city violence or is it just good to let it play itself out and have a lawless society? Are the governments concerned about gang warfare and violence against human beings in these cities?  We don't see any protection used for citizens and society when compared to politicians. 5000 troops in Washington while people die everyday in cities due to lawlessness and violence and most of the time it is not white on black or asian - there are within race problems that no one seems to care about.  'Does it make sense' is all the article is saying!   According to you , nothing should be questioned or addressed!   

Is this gaslighting too?  I suspect it is.  What is being promoted with these statements? Peace and harmony?

Yes, you are gaslighting us with this bogus article. 

Again, Mr. Fritzke wants to attack minorities and inner cities by gaslighting us. The fact is inner city crime is down and the most violent threat of violence is coming from white supremacist Trump supporters. White supremacists invaded the peaceful Black Lives Matter protests to cause violence and destroy the inner cities. The Department of Homeland Security issued a major warning that Trump's white supremacist base is the biggest threat to the United States. Mr. Fritzke wants to gaslight us pretending inner cities are the problem to deflect attention away from the violent right wing Trump mob of white supremacists that are the real danger to America.

Crime Rates in Largest U.S. Cities Continue to Drop
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/crime-rates-largest-us-cities-continue-drop

DHS: White Supremacists ‘The Most Persistent and Lethal Threat’ Within the U.S.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-10-06/dhs-white-supremacists-the-most-persistent-and-lethal-threat-within-the-us

Homeland Security report released after months-long delay lists white supremacists as 'lethal' threat
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/519908-homeland-security-report-released-after-months-long-delay-lists

DHS Warns of White Supremacy Threat, Russian Disinformation in New Report
https://www.lawfareblog.com/dhs-warns-white-supremacy-threat-russian-disinformation-new-report

FBI calls QAnon a domestic terrorist threat. Two GOP Pa. Congress members voted not to condemn it
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/qanon-conspiracy-theory-save-children-pennsylvania-congress-resolution-condemning-20201006.html

White supremacists and other extremist groups are using protests and a pandemic to amplify their message
https://www.inquirer.com/news/white-supremacist-extremists-reopen-rallies-black-lives-matter-protests-20200613.html

Officials Say White Supremacists Infiltrated Black Lives Matter Protest in Richmond to Instigate Riots
https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infiltrated-black-lives-matter-protest-in-richmond-instigate-riots

White Supremacist Street Gangs Are Going to BLM Protests
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj4ky5/white-supremacist-street-gangs-are-going-to-blm-protests

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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