Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3688 on: February 17, 2021, 10:47:49 AM »
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Who is gaslighting who here?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

NY State population: 19.3 million,   Texas state population:  28 million

New York: 236 deaths per 100,000
New Jersey: 253 deaths per 100,000
Texas:  142 deaths per 100,000
Florida: 134 deaths per 100,000

The BLUE states win!



Again blame it on a non-existent Qanon - whoever he or that is!  You can't even back up your statistics and the one pushing the propaganda!  Florida likely has the most senior citizens per capita and we know who the must susceptible victims are - not the children but the elderly.  Cuomo should be put in prison knowing full well the risk of placing positive infected patients back into LTC facilities to kill more.

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"Non existent QAnon" he says. Marjorie Taylor Greene the lunatic Congresswoman from Georgia is a self identified Q nut and the Q cult is now the GOP. QAnon nuts are conspiracy theorists that follow Criminal Trump. They are designated as a domestic terrorist group.   

Mr. Fritzke is unable to read statistics and he is posting the same QAnon COVID conspiracies gaslighting us again.

New York- 46,335
Texas - 41,652


For last 6 months, Texas consistently had the most deaths than any other state. If New York didn't have a disastrous first week and the month of March thanks to Trump, Texas would be leading New York in deaths.

The fact is, the failure of Criminal Trump is the one reasons that Texas, Florida, and New York have the highest number of deaths in the nation. The other factors involved are Trump stooge Governors and right wing morons who refuse to wear masks and social distance.

COVID-19 is a non political virus but right wingers want to politicize it attempting to attack Democrats and blue states for their failures.

I've fully debunked Mr. Fritzke's nonsense with hard data, science, and real facts.

Mr. Fritzke resorts to gaslighting and posting bogus debunked conspiracy theories which is laughable. He just gaslighted us again in his post above. Ridiculous. 


New York is one of only 4 states on track to contain coronavirus: New York is one of only four states “on track” to contain the coronavirus, according to data from Covid Act Now

Forbes reports the nonprofit organization, which tracks the spread of Covid-19 in real time, says only New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Connecticut are seeing a steadily decreasing number of cases and hospitalizations. Covid Act Now says those four states are in the “green” and at a low-risk level based on an analysis of metrics like a state’s infection rate, positive test rate, available intensive care units, contact tracing efforts, and future hospitalization trends.

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/06/new-york-is-one-of-only-4-states-on-track-to-contain-coronavirus-report.html


All blue states Mr. Fritzke. Only blue states are on track to contain COVID. Your bogus "statistics", propaganda, and failed gaslighting effort was just debunked again.

The only ones who will be rotting in prison will be Criminal Donald and his cohorts.

Don't forget Texas had massive nursing home deaths too thanks to Greg Abbott and Criminal Donald for the deregulation of nursing homes.


Nursing home deaths in Texas rose 64 percent in the past 2 weeks: The virus is reaching some of the state’s older, more vulnerable residents

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/27/21340894/nursing-home-deaths-texas-covid19

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3689 on: February 17, 2021, 11:17:02 AM »
Who is gaslighting who here?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

NY State population: 19.3 million,   Texas state population:  28 million

New York: 236 deaths per 100,000
New Jersey: 253 deaths per 100,000
Texas:  142 deaths per 100,000
Florida: 134 deaths per 100,000

The BLUE states win!



Again blame it on a non-existent Qanon - whoever he or that is!  You can't even back up your statistics and the one pushing the propaganda!  Florida likely has the most senior citizens per capita and we know who the must susceptible victims are - not the children but the elderly.  Cuomo should be put in prison knowing full well the risk of placing positive infected patients back into LTC facilities to kill more.

Mr. Fritzke is posting his usual nonsense. He has been totally debunked. Texas and Florida have been COVID disasters while New York has been steadily decreasing. The facts and data speak below.

Texas hospitalizations hit yet another record
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-deaths-us-johns-hopkins-f98dd5d1659ff3a1d75413a980007473

Why Texas Was the First State to Surpass 1M COVID-19 Cases: Texas this week reached 1 million cases since the start of the pandemic, recording more infections than any other state. For reference, more people have been infected in the Lone Star State than live in Austin
https://www.govtech.com/em/safety/Why-Texas-was-the-First-State-to-Surpass-1-Million-COVID-19-Cases.html

Texas Projected To Have Highest Number Of Coronavirus Cases Of Any U.S. States
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933548709/texas-projected-to-have-highest-number-of-coronavirus-cases-of-any-u-s-states

Texas hospital forced to set up 'death panel' as Covid-19 cases surge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/26/covid-19-death-panels-starr-county-hospital-texas

Refrigerated trucks are storing bodies amid spike in COVID-19 deaths in North Texas
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article248285140.html

As Texas morgues fill up, refrigerator trucks are on the way in several counties
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/

Florida now has more coronavirus cases than New York and California leads the nation
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/25/florida-now-has-more-coronavirus-cases-than-new-york-and-california-leads-the-nation.html

Florida has more Covid-19 than most countries in the world. These stats show how serious the problem is
https://whdh.com/news/florida-has-more-covid-19-than-most-countries-in-the-world-these-stats-show-how-serious-the-problem-is/

Florida breaks record with 17,000+ coronavirus cases in one day
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/31/florida-breaks-record-with-more-than-17000-coronavirus-cases-reported-in-one-day/

Texas hits 1 million Covid-19 cases, the most in the nation
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-poised-hit-1-million-covid-19-cases-most-nation-n1246783

COVID-19 updates: Texas sets new daily record for cases and deaths: Texas has averaged 317 COVID-19 deaths a day the past week, which is also a record
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-19-updates-dfw-north-texas-jan-20/287-c78d5447-abe7-4cec-ac04-529ed3485915

Texas sets U.S. COVID-19 hospitalization record 3 days into 2021
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-hits-new-covid-19-hospitalization-record-three-days-into-2021/285-38378da6-af5e-4de1-964d-3c2bd29f8cb4

Texas Sets Daily Record With 10,865 New Coronavirus Cases
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/11/10/texas-daily-record-new-coronavirus-cases/

Texas sets new single-day record for coronavirus deaths: Also, Florida hospitals from Miami-Dade to Broward County have zero ICU beds
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-us-records-58000-cases/story?id=71686860

New daily coronavirus cases in New York are now lower than at the beginning of the outbreak
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/22/new-daily-coronavirus-cases-in-new-york-are-now-lower-than-at-the-beginning-of-the-outbreak-gov-cuomo-says.html

How New York has been able to keep coronavirus at bay while other states see surges: The state has a seven day average of 725 new daily cases
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-coronavirus-bay-states-surges/story?id=71772507

COVID-19 Infection Rates Decreasing In New York Micro-Clusters
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/10/26/covid-clusters-in-ny-infection-rates-down/

NYC Is No Longer The Epicenter Of The United States' Coronavirus Epidemic: These charts show how the NYC metro area has changed its trajectory
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jsvine/new-york-city-no-longer-epicenter-of-coronavirus-deaths

How New York City Got Control of COVID-19 — and Where It Goes from Here
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-new-york-city-got-control-of-covid19

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3690 on: February 17, 2021, 11:21:43 AM »
So....is there anything wrong with having an opinion?  At one time, people questioned the earth being flat and were punished accordingly.  What is wrong with questioning the authority that wields the power over you at anytime?  You should have yours eyes wide open and willing to debate your point of view!

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Nothing is wrong with asking questions. But the problem with you, is that you try use your opinion as facts and that's why you will always be wrong when you're debunked by facts. Ask the wrong questions and you will always be corrected with the truth. Thumb1:

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3691 on: February 17, 2021, 11:37:30 AM »
Joe Biden is a real President showing real action and solid leadership.

Biden lays out ambitious timeline 'to vaccinate every single American'
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-lays-out-ambitious-timeline-to-vaccinate-every-single-american-032015900.html

Biden administration increases the number of Covid vaccine doses shipped weekly to states and pharmacies
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/16/biden-administration-increases-weekly-covid-vaccine-shipments-to-states-and-pharmacies-.html

Joe Biden pledges 600m vaccine doses by end of July in town hall
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/16/joe-biden-covid-coronavirus-economy-andrew-cuomo-donald-trump-live-updates

States Get Big Boost In Vaccine Doses

"States will receive their biggest boost yet in coronavirus vaccine doses this week, a 23% increase over the previous week and a 57% increase since President Joe Biden took office… The White House also announced that it’s doubling to 2 million the number of doses being sent directly to local pharmacies.”

https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/16/states-get-big-boost-in-vaccine-doses/

Biden Details COVID Response Plan
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90465

Biden administration purchases 200 million additional vaccine doses
https://www.axios.com/biden-200-million-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-b277c5b2-7da7-4b55-843a-44f145b81d08.html

In addition to Covid relief measures, President Biden has long-term plans to bring back jobs
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/15/biden-covid-relief-measures-and-long-term-plans-to-boost-jobs.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3692 on: February 17, 2021, 03:43:49 PM »
Joe Biden is a real President showing real action and solid leadership.

Biden lays out ambitious timeline 'to vaccinate every single American'
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-lays-out-ambitious-timeline-to-vaccinate-every-single-american-032015900.html

Biden administration increases the number of Covid vaccine doses shipped weekly to states and pharmacies
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/16/biden-administration-increases-weekly-covid-vaccine-shipments-to-states-and-pharmacies-.html

Joe Biden pledges 600m vaccine doses by end of July in town hall
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/16/joe-biden-covid-coronavirus-economy-andrew-cuomo-donald-trump-live-updates

States Get Big Boost In Vaccine Doses

"States will receive their biggest boost yet in coronavirus vaccine doses this week, a 23% increase over the previous week and a 57% increase since President Joe Biden took office… The White House also announced that it’s doubling to 2 million the number of doses being sent directly to local pharmacies.”

https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/16/states-get-big-boost-in-vaccine-doses/

Biden Details COVID Response Plan
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90465

Biden administration purchases 200 million additional vaccine doses
https://www.axios.com/biden-200-million-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-b277c5b2-7da7-4b55-843a-44f145b81d08.html

In addition to Covid relief measures, President Biden has long-term plans to bring back jobs
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/15/biden-covid-relief-measures-and-long-term-plans-to-boost-jobs.html

Where is his plan to defeat the Kaiser before 1923?  You can do it Joe!  Old Joe doesn't know what decade it is much less have any plan.  And his administration sets the bar so low that if they did nothing it would still be achieved.  Like 100 million vaccines in 100 days.  LOL. Something that was already on track when he took over.  That is a shell game for the rubes like yourself.  You know China Joe is a corrupt incompetent.  He has achieved nothing in 50 years in office.  Your cheerleading has nothing to do with him. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3693 on: February 17, 2021, 04:31:47 PM »
President Biden and his Administration are spinning on this issue, trying to lowball things to make it appear they are accomplishing more. Every Administration in my lifetime does this type of "message massaging."

They are waving their hands and making motions to appear to be doing things more than are already in the vaccine pipeline. That most of the media is swallowing this is an indictment of them.

This Administration's policies on school openings are just awful. They are kowtowing to the teacher's unions and they should be hammered for it. There is no scientific argument for what they are advocating. But most of the media worked so hard to get Biden elected that they are reluctant to go after him: he's their guy and they are loathed to criticize him.

Trump was a dreadful president. His actions contributing to that disgusting riot at the Capitol were shameful. But that doesn't excuse the Biden's Administration spinning and dishonesty. We need the same standard applied to every Administration.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2021, 06:04:31 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3694 on: February 17, 2021, 05:14:32 PM »
So....is there anything wrong with having an opinion?  At one time, people questioned the earth being flat and were punished accordingly.  What is wrong with questioning the authority that wields the power over you at anytime?  You should have yours eyes wide open and willing to debate your point of view!

The article you posted, the one also seen far & wide on the right-wing blogosphere, is itself using gaslighting tactics. You may want to open your own eyes before trying to tell others where to look.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2021, 05:44:35 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3695 on: February 17, 2021, 06:24:26 PM »
The article you posted, the one also seen far & wide on the right-wing blogosphere, is itself using gaslighting tactics. You may want to open your own eyes before trying to tell others where to look.

So.....what gaslighting tactics are being deployed?   The fact that it pointed out the high death rate in New York due to Cuomo's criminal negligence?  Or is it pointing out the high crime rates and looting going on in the major cities that is not being addressed?  Maybe it is the constant flow of immigrants coming across a border looking for a better life than what they had in another country? What is being done to address these issues?

The article is just saying to put perspective on what you are seeing?   Is anyone doing anything about inner city violence or is it just good to let it play itself out and have a lawless society?    Are the governments concerned about gang warfare and violence against human beings in these cities?  We don't see any protection used for citizens and society when compared to politicians.   5000 troops in Washington while people die everyday in cities due to lawlessness and violence and most of the time it is not white on black or asian - there are within race problems that no one seems to care about.  'Does it make sense' is all the article is saying!   According to you , nothing should be questioned or addressed!   

Is this gaslighting too?  I suspect it is.  What is being promoted with these statements? Peace and harmony?


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3695 on: February 17, 2021, 06:24:26 PM »