Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3178 on: January 08, 2021, 07:56:50 PM »
Absolutely correct!   What is the best way to get an addition to the Patriot's Act and creat more government control of the people?    Just send in some BLM and ANTIFA into the crowd to cause issues and control the news as required.

Another ridiculous conspiracy theory from the people who brought you the "rigged election" nonsense.

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Then at 13:00 minutes watch where Trump called for a peaceful protest and people should go home and not buy into it.  Why would Twitter censor that?

Gee, maybe it had something to do with him saying "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long."

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I guess that doesn't fit their narrative!  More 1st Amendment censoring.

Twitter isn't the government.

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Again, why does Twitter censor Trump for 12 hours?  I think the answer is obvious!

Yes, it is.  He was inciting violence and insurrection.

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  Apparently Nancy Pelosi's son-in-law dressed up in a weird head dress with photos taken to just once more add credibility to a bunch of Trump kooks storming the capital buildings and running amuck!

oh, please.   ::)  The guy with the goofy head dress is Jake Angeli, a known QAnon kook, and soon to be federal prisoner.

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Again,  what did Trump say at 13:00?   Can you find this on any MSM site?

Yes, all the media outlets carried the video where he told the violent mob how special they are.
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3179 on: January 08, 2021, 08:08:55 PM »
I agree this violence should never have happened.   The 42 year old officer died after being hit with a fire extinguisher as Joe pointed out.  He collapsed later at his precinct and likely had a blood clot from his injury - very sad.      Yes, that is tragic but no officer was killed at the scene.  This march was announced long before it occurred.  Where were the police and why did they allow an infiltration into the building?  Where was the teargas and resistance?  Did the police really open up the gates or was that photo op made by Trump supporters?   

The only one killed violently at the scene was Ashley and you can clearly see this in the video, there were  4 heavily armed police with ARs nearby or on there way there.  How did the mob get past them?  The other 3 of the 5 deaths were heart attacks and that happens in any crowd of 100,000 plus.   Surely these heavily armed police should have been deployed at doorways to buildings earlier and ground stood - not inside!    The man on the other side of door, did not attempt to arrest and give warning  but chose to shoot her in cold blood to make an example.   Of course, it is always justified when you can say it was done to stop the onslaught of the mob.    Biden should give him the medal of honor and elevate him to hero status for doing that!

Yes. They could have refrained from firing, let the mob bust into the room, and maybe get hit in the head with fire extinguishers.

The higher priority was protecting Congress. Not sparing the lives of the rioters. Or at least slowing them up enough to allow Congress to escape. Their commander put them in a very bad position. But they held the line just long enough for the Vice President and all of Congress to escape, even the ones who have been stoking the anger with false election fraud charges. Many of the officers were injured and one of them died. But they held the line that saved Democracy. Perhaps more important than the stand at Little Round Top by the 20th Maine.

They hit a policeman on the head with a fire extinguisher. What would they have done to Mike Pence if they got to him?

I would have much preferred it if one of those politicians who helped stoke the anger over that previous weeks had died instead of that officer. Or even that deluded woman.


And if this was a false flag operation, if the ones forcing their way into the Capitol and committing violence were fake Trump supporters, why the objection to them being shot?


There is no need for elections anymore.  It has been a failure of a 2 party system which was not foreseen by the forefathers.  Sad day when climate scaremongering, COVID crisis, contact tracing  and so called terrorism dictates the need for more government control of the peasant class of the world and a further decisive division of the 2 classes of people.

There will always be a need for elections. We had a good one in 2020. We will have good ones in 2022 and 2024. And if Biden is defeated, I am confident he won’t cry widespread fraud when no evidence can be found for it.

In elections errors by the people may be made. Errors by the people have been made. But the people inevitably learn from their mistakes, unlike dictators. Some of the voters in Georgia have already shown that. And millions of Americans have learned a great deal since then. So, while you may prefer that we not have elections, we will, because the majority wants them and that’s that.

The two-party system has worked will enough for over two hundred years. I won’t say it is superior to the British system, maybe not as good, but it works. We still have Democracy.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3180 on: January 08, 2021, 08:12:22 PM »
Where were the police and why did they allow an infiltration into the building?  Where was the teargas and resistance?  Did the police really open up the gates or was that photo op made by Trump supporters?

That's a really good question that needs to be investigated.  Sympathy for their cause amongst the Capitol police?  If these were BLM protesters or black people they would all be dead.  Instead they were let go or at most ticketed for curfew violations. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3181 on: January 08, 2021, 08:26:23 PM »
That's a really good question that needs to be investigated.  Sympathy for their cause amongst the Capitol police?  If these were BLM protesters or black people they would all be dead.  Instead they were let go or at most ticketed for curfew violations.

Sympathy for their cause by the head of the Capitol police, Sund, is a strong possibility in my mind, and should investigated. Damm it, this is starting to become a bad habit. Most officers, from what I can see did their job, although a few seem friendly with the rioters.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3182 on: January 08, 2021, 08:42:27 PM »

Apparently Nancy Pelosi's son-in-law dressed up in a weird head dress with photos taken to just once more add credibility to a bunch of Trump kooks storming the capital buildings and running amuck! 



oh, please.   ::)  The guy with the goofy head dress is Jake Angeli, a known QAnon kook, and soon to be federal prisoner.


You are right, John, but the other guy in the photo was indeed Michiel Vos who is Nancy Pelosi's son in law. But guess what, he is from the Netherlands, and the Chief America correspondent for the biggest Dutch TV station. He had a reason to be there because he was reporting on the riot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michiel_Vos

Which only shows how easily Allan Fritzke buys into the false propoganda put out by the extreme right media

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3183 on: January 08, 2021, 09:08:39 PM »
I guess I tried - and failed? - to do satire, but,  ...
Anyhow. Hugo Chavez Dominion 5G China Virus ...uh,  Build the Wall?

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3184 on: January 08, 2021, 09:26:14 PM »
I guess I tried - and failed? - to do satire, but,  ...
Anyhow. Hugo Chavez Dominion 5G China Virus ...uh,  Build the Wall?

Don’t feel bad. I think anyone who tried was bound to fail.

Build the Wall? Absolutely. Around the Capitol. And one for the Supreme Court as well. We can call them the Trump walls. Aliens are not a problem but traitors, even deluded traitors, must always be guarded against.

Of course, the most important wall would be an 8 by 10 foot wall around Trump. I’ll volunteer to work on that project for free.
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