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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2891 on: December 20, 2020, 01:53:26 AM »
It's going to be so much fun watching you ranting and raving for the next 4 or even 8 years, because you can't get over the fact that your hero, the führer, got beaten badly by a guy in a basement.  :D

Unlike you who celebrated the deaths of Americans for political purposes, I hope China Joe does a great job.  I'm rooting for him because it benefits all Americans if he succeeds.  His long record of corruption and failure doesn't leave me very optimistic, but I hope I'm wrong because I'm not a hate filled nut job.  Maybe when China Joe says his crackhead son who just impregnated a stripper is the smartest person he knows, he is just is some type of dementia state that he can overcome.  Time will tell.  And if not, there is always TRUMP 2024!
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2892 on: December 20, 2020, 02:05:05 AM »
Unlike you who celebrated the deaths of Americans for political purposes, I hope China Joe does a great job.  I'm rooting for him because it benefits all Americans if he succeeds.  His long record of corruption and failure doesn't leave me very optimistic, but I hope I'm wrong because I'm not a hate filled nut job.  Maybe when China Joe says his crackhead son who just impregnated a stripper is the smartest person he knows, he is just is some type of dementia state that he can overcome.  Time will tell.  And if not, there is always TRUMP 2024!

Unlike you who celebrated the deaths of Americans for political purposes,

BS... There is nobody in the country who celebrated the death of anybody. The mere fact that you would even use such a pathetic argument shows just how sick an individual you really are.

but I hope I'm wrong because I'm not a hate filled nut job

Yeah right, notwithstanding of course of all your posts in which you demonstrate beyond doubt just how hate filled a person you actually are.

And if not, there is always TRUMP 2024!

Hope always dies last and in most cases goes against realism. When Trump is finally out of the White House they will never ever let him back in. The first time he fooled a lot of people, the 2020 election shows that the majority of Americans won't let that happen again. Far more likely is that he flees the country to escape from all the law suits that are coming.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2893 on: December 20, 2020, 02:14:34 AM »
Unlike you who celebrated the deaths of Americans for political purposes,

BS... There is nobody in the country who celebrated the death of anybody. The mere fact that you would even use such a pathetic argument shows just how sick an individual you really are.

but I hope I'm wrong because I'm not a hate filled nut job

Yeah right, notwithstanding of course of all your posts in which you demonstrate beyond doubt just how hate filled a person you actually are.

And if not, there is always TRUMP 2024!

Hope always dies last and in most cases goes against realism. When Trump is finally out of the White House they will never ever let him back in. The first time he fooled a lot of people, the 2020 election shows that the majority of Americans won't let that happen again. Far more likely is that he flees the country to escape from all the law suits that are coming.

Spin that any way you want but when all is said and done you have politicized American lives to satisfy your sick obsession with Trump.  Unlike you, I hope China Joe does a great job and uses the Trump vaccine brings this pandemic to an end. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2894 on: December 20, 2020, 02:32:43 AM »
Spin that any way you want but when all is said and done you have politicized American lives to satisfy your sick obsession with Trump.  Unlike you, I hope China Joe does a great job and uses the Trump vaccine brings this pandemic to an end.

BS... The only person who has politicized American lives for his own narcissistic pleasure is Donald Trump and those who support him. Some of which, I might add, are now calling for Martial Law to be declared to get their way. And they are doing it all under the pretence of liberty for all. Just how sick is that?

I know Joe Biden will do a better job than Trump because it's impossible to do a worse job than that idiot, who is more concerned to take credit for a vaccine that also would have been developed if anybody else was President. The Pfizer vaccine was developed in Europe, for crying out loud. Trump had nothing to do with it and even refused an offer by the company for a pre-order, yet now he wants to take full credit for it and idiots like you fall for it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2895 on: December 20, 2020, 03:10:11 AM »
Interesting you keep on not wanting to examine the audit report made by experts and allowed by judge to examine the Dominion Voting Systems machines in Michigan where  it is written into the operator's manual how you can manipulate votes. You seem to quote all sorts of fake MSM outlets which don't even want to look at evidence uncovered.

You are aware of the fact that Lou Dobbs (who has been making false allegations about Dominion for weeks) was recently forced, under threat of legal action by Dominion, to debunk all the lies told about Dominion by Sydney Powell, right?

What does that have to do with the expert report made by a judge's okay and telling you that the electronic systems can still be manipulated like it was in Venezuela for Chavez?    Read the report - nothing to see there?  The report says they can divide votes just like they did before when the system was Smartmatic, Diebold or Dominion?   It is written in the manual how to do it.  See the report again if you don't believe me?  Or are you just a conspiracist who doesn't want to look at evidence presented?
https://www.scribd.com/document/488105156/Antrim-County-Forensics-Report-on-Dominion-Voting-System

So are you saying that because Lou Dobbs was called to  the plate, that the report and their expert advice int his report allowable by law are not applicable?  I am looking at expert opinion, not at Lou Dobbs and Powell.  Don't try to change the subject matter on me, because that doesn't work.     That would be like me saying that indictments of Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, George Papoulous, Carter Page and Roger Stone all indicate that there was Russian Collusion!!!!!!  They were indicted on unrelated matters such as LYING to the FBI - a heinous crime and should be punishable by death (in your eyes)!!

I just hope Assange gets a pardon.  He reported someone else's findings that fingered Brennan and Clapper (FBI and CIA) for spying on their own people and is up for counts of treason.  Problem is it was true!   That charge is totally unfounded and is a violation of first amendment rights to report newsworthy events and activity.   Allowing such things as this means  we should be fingering  CNN and all the other fake MSM for "leaking" false documents without mentioning any names and stating that they were from reputable sources.  The Russian Collusion and illegitimate Trump win in 2016 are prime examples of untruths which they should be tried for.  Truth of the matter is Hilary Clinton bought and paid for a Steele Dossier via 3rd party legal entities, the FBI went along and pursued the path set out for them by her campaign.  Total bias and one sided and ridiculous as they couldn't find anything behind it except LYING to them!     These people should be brought be for a military tribunal and justice should be served in a swift and expedient manner.  They are all lawyers and are slippery as soap.

Furthermore, how did Supreme Court justice John Roberts ever get to his position?  He was how many times on the log book on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express?   lol!  Who has the dirty on him to keep him under reign?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2896 on: December 20, 2020, 03:31:39 AM »
What does that have to do with the expert report made by a judge's okay and telling you that the electronic systems can still be manipulated like it was in Venezuela for Chavez?    Read the report - nothing to see there?  The report says they can divide votes just like they did before when the system was Smartmatic, Diebold or Dominion?   It is written in the manual how to do it.  See the report again if you don't believe me?  Or are you just a conspiracist who doesn't want to look at evidence presented?
https://www.scribd.com/document/488105156/Antrim-County-Forensics-Report-on-Dominion-Voting-System

So are you saying that because Lou Dobbs was called to  the plate, that the report and their expert advice int his report allowable by law are not applicable?  I am looking at expert opinion, not at Lou Dobbs and Powell.  Don't try to change the subject matter on me, because that doesn't work.     That would be like me saying that indictments of Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, George Papoulous, Carter Page and Roger Stone all indicate that there was Russian Collusion!!!!!!  They were indicted on unrelated matters such as LYING to the FBI - a heinous crime and should be punishable by death (in your eyes)!!

I just hope Assange gets a pardon.  He reported someone else's findings that fingered Brennan and Clapper (FBI and CIA) for spying on their own people and is up for counts of treason.  Problem is it was true!   That charge is totally unfounded and is a violation of first amendment rights to report newsworthy events and activity.   Allowing such things as this means  we should be fingering  CNN and all the other fake MSM for "leaking" false documents without mentioning any names and stating that they were from reputable sources.  The Russian Collusion and illegitimate Trump win in 2016 are prime examples of untruths which they should be tried for.  Truth of the matter is Hilary Clinton bought and paid for a Steele Dossier via 3rd party legal entities, the FBI went along and pursued the path set out for them by her campaign.  Total bias and one sided and ridiculous as they couldn't find anything behind it except LYING to them!     These people should be brought be for a military tribunal and justice should be served in a swift and expedient manner.  They are all lawyers and are slippery as soap.

Furthermore, how did Supreme Court justice John Roberts ever get to his position?  He was how many times on the log book on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express?   lol!  Who has the dirty on him to keep him under reign?

What does that have to do with the expert report made by a judge's okay and telling you that the electronic systems can still be manipulated like it was in Venezuela for Chavez?   

How many reports by so-called experts that say exactly the opposite would you like? Getting an "expert" to make a claim is easy. It happens every day in all courts of the land. Stop being so gullible.

The report says they can divide votes just like they did before when the system was Smartmatic, Diebold or Dominion? 

Let's just wait and see what your expert says when Dominion calls him out with a threat of a multi million dollar law suit.

So are you saying that because Lou Dobbs was called to  the plate, that the report and their expert advice int his report allowable by law are not applicable?

Of course such a report is allowable by law, but so is also a counter report by another expert saying the opposite. So, let's not jump to conclusions and wait what happens in court.

I am looking at expert opinion, not at Lou Dobbs and Powell.

But Powell relies on the same expert.... Don't you understand that?

That would be like me saying that indictments of Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, George Papoulous, Carter Page and Roger Stone all indicate that there was Russian Collusion!!!!!!  They were indicted on unrelated matters such as LYING to the FBI - a heinous crime and should be punishable by death (in your eyes)!!

I'm not going to get into those individual cases, but the main difference is that those men were all indicted. So far, Dominion has not been indicted, nor has anybody else.

Allowing such things as this means  we should be fingering  CNN and all the other fake MSM for "leaking" false documents without mentioning any names and stating that they were from reputable sources.

BS.. reporters have to be able to talk to people without them having to fear that their lives will be destroyed because of it. Anonymous sources have been around as long as there has been journalism. If it had not been for anonymous sources Richard Nixon's crimes would never have been exposed.

Truth of the matter is Hilary Clinton bought and paid for a Steele Dossier via 3rd party legal entities, the FBI went along and pursued the path set out for them by her campaign. 

Well, if that's the truth of the matter, then it won't be a problem for you to show the evidence for those claims, right? Oh, wait... there isn't any, which is why the story never went any further than bogus Republican allegations.

These people should be brought be for a military tribunal and justice should be served in a swift and expedient manner.  They are all lawyers and are slippery as soap.

Yeah, let's just take them all around the back, put them against the wall and shoot them, right? Because that's what countries where the rule of law matters do, right? I mean only dictators have a fair evidence based court system, right? Oh, wait, I've got that backwards, haven't I?

Would you possibly be one of those idiots who is calling for martial law to be declared by Trump in the name of freedom, liberty and democracy for all?   :D

Furthermore, how did Supreme Court justice John Roberts ever get to his position?

Uhhhh.. let me think for a moment. Oh yeah, now I remember, he got appointed by Republicans. Go figure
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2897 on: December 20, 2020, 03:31:52 AM »
Questions for Michael Griffith or Allan Fritzke.

Questions:

1.   Is there a single non-Trump enthusiast who believes the election was rigged in Biden’s favor, giving him hundreds of thousands of net votes versus Trump?

2.   Is there a single outside reporter from Britain, Japan, Germany, anywhere, who believes this rigged election hypothesis?


We do have some Trump supporters, Republican governors, Republican Secretary of State, from various states, judges appointed by Republicans and even by Trump, who think the election was fair.

It seems to me that the side with the truth on their side could attract believers from both Trump and Biden voters. To convince foreign observers and reporters, without a horse in the race, that they are right. Only the non-believers in this Large-Secret-Enduring 2020 Election conspiracy hypothesis have been able to attract such support.


3.   Is it necessary to be a Trump supporter in order to believe the election was rigged?


If not, name them.
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