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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2464 on: November 18, 2020, 01:11:15 PM »
Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2465 on: November 18, 2020, 01:37:21 PM »
Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

Who cares about articles when the courts tell the real story. So far, some 20 cases lost or withdrawn for a lack of evidence.

There are two battles going on right now; one in the court of public opinion, where the Republicans can (and do) claim the most outrageous made up BS and the one in the courts, where they need to provide evidence for their shameless allegations and can't.

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"?

Who said the transmission rate doesn't matter?

they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

Just how ignorant do you need to be to not understand that letting people move around freely is the ideal way for the virus to spread, as has been shown since the re-opening of some States? Those who argue against lockdowns are the ones who ensure that it will be far more difficult to get the virus under control.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2466 on: November 18, 2020, 02:18:07 PM »
Those who still insist there is "no evidence" of voter fraud in this election need to explain the evidence discussed in the following articles:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/16/republicans-have-good-reason-not-to-trust-the-election-results/

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/

https://spectator.org/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-fraud/

As for COVID-19, how do you reason with people who argue that the transmission rate "doesn't matter"? You don't need any medical training to understand why the transmission rate of a virus is crucial information. How do you reason with such ignorance? How do you reason with people who abjectly refuse to confront the well-documented, easily verifiable fact that for ages 0-49, which is 2/3 of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a smaller risk of death than the common flu or the same risk of death as the common flu? Ignoring these facts, and ignoring the fact that the death rate for ages 50-64 is below 2%, they continue to insist that these senseless one-size-fits-all lockdowns are the only way to combat the virus.

I read two of the articles. Want my ten minutes back. The Federalist, really? Do you not think we have any research skills..... Ben Domenech....gimme a break. Next time I suggest you synthesise something meaningful and present it. Rudy is desperate I hear. Anything the courts have accepted yet?

How’s Sweden going?

Our city just had first community transmission since mid April. So far 22 cases in four days. It was from leakage from quarantine hotel for expats returning. We have conservative state and federal government. Total lockdown for 6 days has just been announced. No schools and Universities open, only one person allowed out, once a day for essential travel. Masks compulsory outside. No bars or restaurant. No sporting activity. State border shut. Will let you know how the numbers go. USA is so far gone I wish you well. I am so thankful we had half reasonable leadership. Go hard and go early. When the going got tough in the USA your leadership went missing. You got a self confessed cheerleader instead.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2467 on: November 18, 2020, 09:17:30 PM »
I read two of the articles. Want my ten minutes back. The Federalist, really? Do you not think we have any research skills..... Ben Domenech....gimme a break. Next time I suggest you synthesise something meaningful and present it. Rudy is desperate I hear. Anything the courts have accepted yet?

How’s Sweden going?

Our city just had first community transmission since mid April. So far 22 cases in four days. It was from leakage from quarantine hotel for expats returning. We have conservative state and federal government. Total lockdown for 6 days has just been announced. No schools and Universities open, only one person allowed out, once a day for essential travel. Masks compulsory outside. No bars or restaurant. No sporting activity. State border shut. Will let you know how the numbers go. USA is so far gone I wish you well. I am so thankful we had half reasonable leadership. Go hard and go early. When the going got tough in the USA your leadership went missing. You got a self confessed cheerleader instead.
Dr Crow:  I'm thinking 275,000 deaths by 1-20-2021 in the US. :(

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2468 on: November 18, 2020, 10:40:03 PM »
Dr Crow:  I'm thinking 275,000 deaths by 1-20-2021 in the US. :(

I think there is chance of at least 350,000.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2469 on: November 18, 2020, 10:47:29 PM »
I think there is chance of at least 350,000.
Just found out, 1700 US deaths yesterday.
I get it.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2470 on: November 18, 2020, 11:39:39 PM »
Just found out, 1700 US deaths yesterday.
I get it.
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I'm beginning to understand why Trump wanted to buy Greenland.