Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Thomas Graves]

For those (Storing) believing Donald Trump in 2020 is running against Joe Biden, he’s not. Poll numbers? Who cares. Trump has one opponent he cannot scream at or demean on Twitter. It’s an opponent who will not debate. It’s an opponent who will have the last word.

We haven't even gotten into Trump's cratering poll numbers. Wanna? Listen up Storing. He is down by double digits nationally, down by double digits in most battleground states, and even down in double digits among his own Republican base when it comes to his performance in handling the coronavirus. And then there are the worst numbers of all: almost 140,000 dead, with the CDC estimating 170,000 by Aug. 8. A record 77,000 people were diagnosed with the virus on Thursday, and 926 died. The numbers keep going up almost every day.

Trump likely could run unopposed.....and lose.

I think Trump will win another squeaker after Vladimir Putin, two weeks before the election, arranges for the release of photographs purporting to show Joe and Hunter Biden sexually molesting a goat.

Or some-such thing.

"But ... but ... but ... THE COLD WAR IS OVER, AND WE WON, TOMMY!"

--  MWT 

[Paul May]

Trump Caught Lying About Biden’s Police Stance in Fox News Interview Debacle

By Jonathan Chait

President Trump, apparently realizing that he has little chance to defeat Joe Biden, has decided instead to run against an imaginary candidate who shares a name with his Democratic opponent but few of the same policy proposals. In an interview with Fox News host Chris Wallace, Trump asserted that Biden wants to “defund the police.” Wallace stopped him and pointed out that this is not true. Trump, who usually bluffs his way through moments when his lies are called out by throwing out new lies, instead claimed to have a document that would prove it. “Oh, really? It says ‘abolish’ — let’s go, get me the charter, please!” he said, calling for his aides.


They could not, of course, because Trump’s claims are flatly false. Biden did sign a charter with Bernie Sanders in which he endorsed several positions that brought him closer to his left-wing opponent. He did not, however, agree to defund or abolish the police.

The paper does endorse a broad array of police reforms, including use-of-force guidelines, federal oversight, racial-profiling restrictions, and others. There is nothing in it calling for the abolition of police or a reduction in funding for police. It calls for the federal government to “make smart investments to incentivize departments to build effective partnerships with social workers and mental health and substance use counselors to help respond to frontline public health challenges” — i.e., increasing the allotment of funding for the work currently performed by police. Biden did not endorse abolition or defunding of the police because it’s highly unpopular and he isn’t crazy.

At a speech attacking Biden today, Vice-President Mike Pence leaned on the theme that Biden won’t really be president at all. “Joe Biden has referred to himself as a transition candidate, and what many are asking across this country is, a transition to what?” asked Pence. “I thought Joe Biden won the Democratic primary, but looking at that [unity] document, it seems like Bernie won.” When your campaign is reduced to implicitly conceding that it would be great if Biden was president but it isn’t going to happen, you’re in a place of clear desperation.

During the Democratic primary, some progressives argued that there was little value in avoiding unpopular left-wing positions and labels, since Trump was going to call his opponent a radical socialist regardless of who he faced. It’s true that Trump was going to do this, but it’s not true that the tactic would work equally well on any opponent. It’s harder to pin an unpopular position on an opponent who refuses to support it than it is on an opponent who denies it.

Wallace told his audience that Trump “couldn’t find any indication, because there isn’t any, that Joe Biden has sought to defund and abolish the police.” That is a humiliating result for a Fox News interview.

[Royell Storing]

  When you guys have anything New to Endlessly grouse about, PM me. As usual, your redundant haranguing is Killing the thread. Last night, you get a dissenting voice contributing to this thread and the Silent Majority viewership Immediately set record numbers. This A.M. you dog pilers go into your Pete and RePete Routine and as usual the viewer response = Crickets. The wild audience fluctuations Here is a microcosm of Nov 3. Lotta Noise outta the Malcontents but the Silent Majority always ends up carrying the day.   

[Paul May]

  When you guys have anything New to Endlessly grouse about, PM me. As usual, your redundant haranguing is Killing the thread. Last night, you get a dissenting voice contributing to this thread and the Silent Majority viewership Immediately set record numbers. This A.M. you dog pilers go into your Pete and RePete Routine and as usual the viewer response = Crickets. The wild audience fluctuations Here is a microcosm of Nov 3. Lotta Noise outta the Malcontents but the Silent Majority always ends up carrying the day.

History is debated, never argued. That is impossible here because YOU are a pathological liar who attempts to defend another pathological liar who through policy is killing American citizens at a record pace. Silent majority? They’re dying also.

[Royell Storing]

  When do we get to the part where You call me a Racist, Homophobe, Xenowhatever, and on & on?  You HATERS are a 1 Note Cacophony of Fingernails on the chalkboard.
  I see the Biden Campaign is as usual speaking for Fuzzy Joe and claiming the Russkies are currently meddling in the upcoming election. If Putin is in Trump's corner, how can he lose? Maybe you guys better save your energy and sit this one out? You might have a chance 4 years down the road if something were to happen to Putin. Until then, according to Fuzzy Joe, this election is already rigged.

[John Tonkovich]

Mr. Storing:  do Black Lives Matter?

[Paul May]

  When do we get to the part where You call me a Racist, Homophobe, Xenowhatever, and on & on?  You HATERS are a 1 Note Cacophony of Fingernails on the chalkboard.
  I see the Biden Campaign is as usual speaking for Fuzzy Joe and claiming the Russkies are currently meddling in the upcoming election. If Putin is in Trump's corner, how can he lose? Maybe you guys better save your energy and sit this one out? You might have a chance 4 years down the road if something were to happen to Putin. Until then, according to Fuzzy Joe, this election is already rigged.

How stupid are you? The fake news media as you call it replays Trump everyday on television. Nothing fake about it. We, the public see, with our own eyes how repugnant he is. The media reports it. Nothing fake about it. Out of ignorance you do the very same thing on this forum. We read your words. You’re a despicable (love that word) human being. How much support have you gotten from anybody on this thread? You’re a minority of one. You’re inappropriate. You’re unintelligible. You’re ignorant. I can go on and on but what’s the point? You provide the ammo everyday. It’s just to easy.