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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1981 on: October 14, 2020, 12:43:51 AM »
This is really getting sad.  Old Joe can't remember what office he is running for.  He said once again that he is running for the Senate.  His family needs to stage an intervention.  It's scary.


Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1982 on: October 14, 2020, 12:49:54 AM »
What a magnificent day for Trump.  He overcomes the virus, returns to the campaign, restores calm in the face of panic, his Supreme Court nominee performs perfectly.  Meanwhile Old Joe announced he is running for the senate.  LOL.  He also could not remember Mitt Romney's name.  Called him the "Mormon."  Wow.   And "Crazy" Nancy went wild on CNN almost inducing a seizure when asked about her efforts to deny virus relief to Americans before the election.  I haven't seen anyone shake like that since Katherine Hepburn near the end of her life. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1983 on: October 14, 2020, 01:36:42 AM »
Just got contacted by a medico friend of mine who saw Trump's Florida "performance". He to.d me that he's still on the dexamethazone.....quite apparent from his "euphoric" state. Beware when he comes off it, likely a big downer.

LOL.  That sounds very "scientific."  What medication does your friend attribute to Old Joe's confusion that he is running for senate and his inability to remember Mitt Romney's name?  Instead referring to him as the "Mormon."

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1984 on: October 14, 2020, 03:05:46 AM »
LOL.  That sounds very "scientific."  What medication does your friend attribute to Old Joe's confusion that he is running for senate and his inability to remember Mitt Romney's name?  Instead referring to him as the "Mormon."
Mr Smith: you seem to have trouble remembering Biden's name.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1985 on: October 14, 2020, 03:19:09 AM »
LOL.  That sounds very "scientific."  What medication does your friend attribute to Old Joe's confusion that he is running for senate and his inability to remember Mitt Romney's name?  Instead referring to him as the "Mormon."

Old age....it's a bitch.

As for my friend, it’s anecdotal I agree but he has had considerable experience administrating dex....but don’t take my word for it look up,the side effects for your self.

I hear Julian's suite is available at the Equadorian embassy in London.......wonder if it will get a new inhabitant in the lame duck period?

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1986 on: October 14, 2020, 04:13:58 AM »
Looks like the US has more then 2.5 million cases currently according to worldometer website. This number seems too high to me so I went to the CDC website that shows that new cases are at about a rate of 350,000 per week. If we use a month as a reasonable estimate for total disease progression to resolution (maybe a bit on low side), we get 1.4 million active cases. Let's say only about 5% require hospitalisation due to symptoms at the level or greater than the President, that comes to 70,000. Just under 20,000 hospitalisations per week.

The question is, for all those affected, how many more weeks before the arrival of Regeneron? Donald got the "cure", and promised to deliver to all for free. What is he doing to fulfil his promise? In the meantime about 1,000 US citizens die each week while you wait for something.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1987 on: October 14, 2020, 05:17:50 AM »
Looks like the US has more then 2.5 million cases currently according to worldometer website. This number seems too high to me so I went to the CDC website that shows that new cases are at about a rate of 350,000 per week. If we use a month as a reasonable estimate for total disease progression to resolution (maybe a bit on low side), we get 1.4 million active cases. Let's say only about 5% require hospitalisation due to symptoms at the level or greater than the President, that comes to 70,000. Just under 20,000 hospitalisations per week.

The question is, for all those affected, how many more weeks before the arrival of Regeneron? Donald got the "cure", and promised to deliver to all for free. What is he doing to fulfil his promise? In the meantime about 1,000 US citizens die each week while you wait for something.
Mr Crow: don't sell us short. In the last seven days, Florida alone has 700 deaths. So the figure is closer to 4,000, at the least. (CDC lists deaths by state, but, not total. I'm too tired to do the exact math.) I think you were trying to be very conservative in your estimate, which I do respect.
As to Regeneron, only one study has been released. It's on Regeneron's website, among other places. Only 275 patients, and done on a 1:1:1 basis, i.e. placebo, low dose, high dose, showing marked improvement in symptoms and viral load, most in high dose, a bit less in low dose, as opposed to placebo. Since 275 ÷ 3 = 91.67, basically we're talking about a relatively small sample size, of non hospitalized patients. I was confused by some of the data, but - it seemed? - that they focused on sick patients with non responsive immune system ( no antibodies) and high viral load. All this is good news, with other studies ongoing. However, the focus on non hospitalized patients doesn't tell us anything about, obviously, severely ill/hospitalized patients.
As a non scientist, but avid reader, I would think it's going to be several months, if not longer, before this treatment is approved, and its "cure all" ability is very much in doubt.
Your thoughts?