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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1974 on: October 13, 2020, 01:01:28 AM »
John, from what we "know", Trump arrived late for the debate and too late to be tested. They relied on the honour system. This implies that they are using the quick antigen test and not the swab rtPCR test as that takes much longer to get a reasult. The antigen test gets a result in a few minutes but is not as reliable. It can have a false negatives at a relatively high rate but if done repeatedly can overcome this problem.

I imaging Donald simply has the antigen test daily and so do those around him. He kept himself "shrouded" as much as possible but given the infectious nature of the virus and the less than ideal contact behaviour of those in the WH it was probably just a matter of time before he was exposed. The key question here is did he have the virus and knowingly go ahead with the debate?

That would explain his reluctance to release the test results and medical records of symptoms.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1975 on: October 13, 2020, 02:29:32 AM »
John, from what we "know", Trump arrived late for the debate and too late to be tested. They relied on the honour system. This implies that they are using the quick antigen test and not the swab rtPCR test as that takes much longer to get a reasult. The antigen test gets a result in a few minutes but is not as reliable. It can have a false negatives at a relatively high rate but if done repeatedly can overcome this problem.

I imaging Donald simply has the antigen test daily and so do those around him. He kept himself "shrouded" as much as possible but given the infectious nature of the virus and the less than ideal contact behaviour of those in the WH it was probably just a matter of time before he was exposed. The key question here is did he have the virus and knowingly go ahead with the debate?

That would explain his reluctance to release the test results and medical records of symptoms.
Mr Crow: shades of Watergate, and the famous question: " what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1976 on: October 13, 2020, 04:08:43 AM »
Mr Crow: shades of Watergate, and the famous question: " what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

Follow the test results......wonder which doctor would break ranks? Dare I say "Deep Nostril"?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1977 on: October 13, 2020, 04:02:04 PM »
Just got contacted by a medico friend of mine who saw Trump's Florida "performance". He to.d me that he's still on the dexamethazone.....quite apparent from his "euphoric" state. Beware when he comes off it, likely a big downer.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1978 on: October 13, 2020, 05:10:35 PM »
Follow the test results......wonder which doctor would break ranks? Dare I say "Deep Nostril"?
Ha!
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1979 on: October 13, 2020, 06:02:39 PM »
Just got contacted by a medico friend of mine who saw Trump's Florida "performance". He to.d me that he's still on the dexamethazone.....quite apparent from his "euphoric" state. Beware when he comes off it, likely a big downer.
He was, uh, " dancing" ( not very well) at the end of the rally. Shades of the Nero fiddled while Rome.." trope, in this case 215,000 dead, as unmasked ( including Governor Desantis) and tightly packed followers rejoiced.
Trump is often high on something, whether it's some stimulant ( Adderall?) or, as you suggest, a continuation of the dexamethasone, or, maybe both.
Trump's voice was described by many as " hoarse and strained", which could mean many things; perhaps, Mr Crow, you could weigh in as to what that symptom might mean.
Overall, the likelihood of many new infections as a result of this rally seems very high. Florida reported 1200 new cases yesterday, and 2500 today - surely coincidental with the reopening of bars and restaurants and a weekend of folks going out and enjoying their "freedom". Oddly - or, perhaps, not so oddly - Dr Fauci seems very concerned.
It's a sh#$show.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1980 on: October 13, 2020, 09:01:53 PM »
Like moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem without getting a single concession from them, Drumpf is pissing away his last remaining bargaining chip by ramming Barrett thru to the SCOTUS before the election. He thinks the evangelicals will reward him for it. But the only reason they are sticking with him is to stack the courts and especially the SCOTUS so they can overturn Roe vs Wade.

But Drumpf is such a f*cking moron and a hopeless deal-maker that he doesn't realize when he is done stacking the SCOTUS before the election, the evangelicals will have no more use for him and vote the pussy grabber out. However, if he had made a deal to keep stacking the SCOTUS after the election, the evangelicals will vote him in for a 2nd term.

Drumpf is the worst deal maker in US history. Only the greatest loser paid a pittance in taxes over the last few decades and only $750/yr in taxes over the last 2 years. He is not only broke, he owes the Rooskies $421 million they loaned him, which they would waive if he got elected in 2016 and lifted the sanctions on the Oligarchs as per the Magnitsky Act. Sounds like collusion/conspiracy to me. Discredited my Bahookie. Only his base actually believes the Rooskie investigation was a hoax/witch hunt and that Rooskie collusion has been discredited. They didn't even bother to read the Mueller Report. They still believe that was a "perfect call" to Ukraine too. His base needs to give their heads a shake and smell his BS before it's too late. Oops, it already is.

They've been grifted by Heir Drumpf and Fake Fox News from day 1, the minute they drank the orange koolaid and became members of Q. How desperate is Drumpf? He is willing to kill as many US citizens as it takes to get himself re-elected and keep himself out of jail. But he and Manafort are soon to be bunkmates unless he can keep the Covid virus going so he can remain under house arrest at Mar-a-lago until he has to hand it over to the Rooskies to pay off his debt.


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