Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Joffrey van de Wiel]

How does anybody get so delusional as you seem to be?

Well I think given the polling data related to the 2016 election he perhaps has a point? Back then CNN and our own news agencies reported a comfortable lead of Secretary Clinton in key states and implied that the election was just a formality. You can imagine my surprise when the numbers came in on election night and the results were quite different from the predictions published before.

Polls can be very unreliable and I speak from experience as I am a member of a political party and involved in our election process. And it is a long way to November 3rd - all sorts of thing could happen between now and then that could influence the election result.

Meanwhile this talk about 'delaying' the elections, speculation about President Trump's refusal to leave office in case of a loss, and calling the elections 'rigged' months before voting day is troublesome. These characteristics are usually associated with some banana republic, not with the greatest democracy in the world.

[Rick Plant]

Mr. May

Let's review this polling data in November and see how it failed. Have fun playing make-believe until then. You'll be warmed up to continue playing make-believe until January 2025 or well over 1500 days. Just think of or imagine that!  Make sure you have a stockpile of denial to counter your increased anxiety.

Step into reality Kleinschmidt. Benedict Donald is losing his own party. The economy is in the crapper. He is done!


Trump’s Grip on the GOP Is Slipping

Amy Walter: “The once rock-solid grip that the president had on his party seems to be slipping. Talking with pollsters and strategists from both sides this week,  it’s clear that Trump is suffering not just with Democrats and independents but also with GOP voters. They tell us of polling that shows Trump underwater in districts he carried easily in 2016.”

“One GOP strategist told me that even in heavily Republican districts, Trump’s job approval rating among Republicans has dropped 10-20 points. The KFF poll released last week found Trump’s overall job approval rating among Republicans dropped 12 points between May and July. On handling coronavirus, the drop in GOP support was an even more dramatic 26 points.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/07/30/trumps-grip-on-the-gop-is-slipping/

[Martin Weidmann]

Well I think given the polling data related to the 2016 election he perhaps has a point? Back then CNN and our own news agencies reported a comfortable lead of Secretary Clinton in key states and implied that the election was just a formality. You can imagine my surprise when the numbers came in on election night and the results were quite different from the predictions published before.

Polls can be very unreliable and I speak from experience as I am a member of a political party and involved in our election process. And it is a long way to November 3rd - all sorts of thing could happen between now and then that could influence the election result.

Meanwhile this talk about 'delaying' the elections, speculation about President Trump's refusal to leave office in case of a loss, and calling the elections 'rigged' months before voting day is troublesome. These characteristics are usually associated with some banana republic, not with the greatest democracy in the world.

Well I think given the polling data related to the 2016 election he perhaps has a point?

The polling data in 2016 was spot on. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by a margin of 3 million votes, which is exactly what the polls predicted. Polls, however, do not reflect the Electoral College and that's where Trump had the upperhand by a mere 77.000 votes in swing states. The mess created by Comey about Clinton's emails may will have tipped the scale in favor of Trump.

To compare 2020 with 2016 is foolish. Back then, Trump was a relatively unknown quantity on the political scene and many people hoping for change voted for him, because they did not want to vote for Clinton. Since then, nearly four years have past and people have seen and experienced first hand what Trump's promises are worth and what he actually did. He is no longer the promise of a better future, he was to many people four years ago.

And it is a long way to November 3rd - all sorts of thing could happen between now and then that could influence the election result.

Sure, anything could happen, but if things stay as they are now, he has a hell of a fight on his hands to regain ground. The worst economic crisis in decades, massive unemployment, a divided country, unidentifiable stormtroopers in the streets of some cities and 150.000 + covid-19 deaths will not be ignored easily, even by a large number of people who voted for him in 2016.

Meanwhile this talk about 'delaying' the elections, speculation about President Trump's refusal to leave office in case of a loss, and calling the elections 'rigged' months before voting day is troublesome. These characteristics are usually associated with some banana republic, not with the greatest democracy in the world.

Indeed, and yet they do happen in Trump's 2020. Average Joe is seeing his country being turned into a banana republic and feels that it needs to be stopped. This is the first Republican President who has Republicans, in for example the Lincoln Project, calling for a vote for Biden. Now, why do you think this is?

[Paul May]

Mr. May

Let's review this polling data in November and see how it failed. Have fun playing make-believe until then. You'll be warmed up to continue playing make-believe until January 2025 or well over 1500 days. Just think of or imagine that!  Make sure you have a stockpile of denial to counter your increased anxiety.

Polls are a snapshot in time. I surely recognize that. Trump’s behavior however is not. We see that each day. We see Pandemic deaths rising. Americans can’t pay their bills. Cannot put food on the table. Job market going under once again. Evictions starting a whole new phase. Trump’s biggest decision? Which golf course to play. I look forward to November.

[Paul May]

Trump is ‘completely unraveling’: Former top White House aide says ‘you can see it in his eyes’

Bob Brigham

President Donald Trump is breaking under intense pressure as his policy choices continue to result in devastating outcomes, a former top White House official said on Thurday.

“One American dying a minute now,” former Trump communications director Anthony Scaramucci posted on Twitter.

“The worst quarter in our modern economic history,” he continued. “A threat of delay against a Presidential election.”

“The guy is finished,” Scaramucci continued.

“Completely unraveling. You can see it on his eyes,” he suggested.

[Richard Smith]

Donald Trump kill and destroys anything he comes into contact with. Latest example, Herman Cain at his Tulsa rally.

So Trump killed Cain?  LOL.  Did he force him to attend, did he tell him not to wear a mask, is there any evidence that Cain contracted the virus at this rally, did Trump give him cancer as well?  But I'm sure Cuomo did a great job because only 30,000+ people died on his watch.

[Paul May]

So Trump killed Cain?  LOL.  Did he force him to attend, did he tell him not to wear a mask, is there any evidence that Cain contracted the virus at this rally, did Trump give him cancer as well?  But I'm sure Cuomo did a great job because only 30,000+ people died on his watch.

The rally should not have been held. Trump was warned what was happening in Tulsa. So yes, Cain is one of 150,000 + Americans who have died on Trump’s watch due to NO leadership and total incompetence. This isn’t rocket science.