Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

SS Inspector Thomas J. Kelley writes this in his report on Mr. Oswald's interrogation on the Saturday morning:



Seems clearcut, right?

Yet FBI Agent Bookhout writes this in HIS report on the same interrogation:



Only TWO denials instead of Insp. Kelley's tally of THREE:
-I didn't view the motorcade
-I didn't shoot Pres. Kennedy
-I didn't shoot Gov. Connally

Remarkable that Agent Bookhout wouldn't see fit to mention this eyebrow-raising admission from Mr. Oswald...........

But there is more that is remarkable here. One would think that the accused assassin's specific claimed whereabouts at the time of the assassination would be the single most important thing an interrogation report would need to cover. But no. Neither Insp. Kelley nor Agent Bookhout go there. Nor does anyone else.

In fact, the ONLY time in ANY of the official interrogation reports that we get ANY idea of where exactly Mr. Oswald said he was at the time of the assassination is in the joint interrogation report written by Agents Bookhout and Hosty on the Sunday: "on the first floor". Did Mr. Oswald really give such a vague response?

Nope. Since 2019 we know what Mr. Oswald had really said in his very first interrogation: "went outside to watch P. Parade". Agent Hosty puts this in his draft interrogation report, but it is absorbed by the weaselly formula "on the first floor" in the Bookhout/Hosty joint report. (Remember: we're talking about the identical same interrogation session here.) The only place that could conceivably be both "outside" and "on the first floor" is up in the front entrance. The Bookhout/Hosty report is resorting to creative semantics to take Mr. Oswald off the front steps.

Other than that, NONE of the official interrogation reports wants to talk about where exactly Mr. Oswald said he was.

Quite bizarre-------------and explicable only if Mr. Oswald's answer to that question was too dangerous to be officially memorialized.

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But back to Insp. Kelley VS Agent Bookhout on what Mr. Oswald said in the Sat morning interrogation. Did he or did he not deny having viewed the motorcade?

Did Agent Bookhout really miss Mr. Oswald's admission that he didn't view the parade? Or did he consider it of insufficient importance to mention in his report? Hardly!

Either Mr. Oswald really said this, or Insp. Kelley misremembered/invented it.

It's probably the latter, but let's take a little time to explore the former scenario: Mr. Oswald told Insp. Kelley he didn't view the parade.

Seems damning, right?

Well, put yourself in Mr. Oswald's shoes. He is being asked by an SS man if he viewed the parade. He has assumed all along that the SS (or some of them at least) were in on the false-flag operation. So he thinks he is being tested: Are you going to keep your cover, or are you going to talk about what you did in that front entrance?

And so he is much more guarded in his response to any question about his parade-time whereabouts. In the first interrogation, he freely told Capt. Fritz he "went outside to watch P. Parade". But here, he is mindful of who's asking. And so he gives a response that telegraphs the message: 'Look, I'm being a good boy. I haven't told them anything about what I did in that front entrance'.

So at odds is his answer with his earlier "went outside to watch P. Parade" line, that Agent Bookhout is taken aback. He senses that Mr. Oswald is playing a game. So, in his interrogation report, he decides to just not go there.

[Alan Ford]

Apologies, Mr. Mason, only seeing this now (it got lost amidst the off-topic deluge courtesy of Messrs. Welch & Storing).....

I believe the Towner film gives the lie to the idea that Pres. Kennedy was out of the loop:



He's leaning forward to look at Mr. Oswald.

A change-of-mind mechanism was built into the plan: Pres. Kennedy will see the flag-waving, know from that the operation is a go, and can choose with a pre-agreed gesture-signal (brushing of hand through hair) whether or not to give the final green light. He gives it.

I believe this explains the hitherto puzzling fact of excised Towner frames just before this in Towner: the unspliced version showed Pres. Kennedy making it a little too obvious that he is keen to check out the doorway

I believe this is also the reason why the Zapruder film frames showing the turn from Houston on to Elm were cut

[Royell Storing]

Friends, it is hard to convey how foolish I find the behavior of those who continue to stake all on the PM-in-Darnell=LHO claim.

Coming up to the 60th anniversary, they are creating the utterly false impression that Mr. Oswald's claim that he "went outside to watch P. Parade" can ONLY be vindicated by the finding that he is Prayer Man in Darnell.

In doing this, and with such vehemence and such disregard for what the latest evidence shows, they are setting the stage for what will look to everyone else like the complete collapse of the Oswald-Out-Front idea.

And this just at a time when

a) the PM-in-Darnell=LHO claim has been euthanized by the clearer Darnell frame that has emerged


b) Mr. Oswald's actual location in the doorway has been found


2013 saw an important research push. But 2023 trumps it by a big margin.

As I have had cause to note before, the capacity of many CTers to look a gift horse in the mouth is most impressive.............. But: the penny WILL drop. 

    Going beyond the hoopla surrounding Prayer Man, I thought the discovery of the "Hosty Notes" itself should have received far more attention/scrutiny from the JFK Assassination Research Community. The hand writting on those alleged "Hosty Notes"  should have been analyzed by multiple credible sources followed by an exhaustive combing of the National Archives for other JFK Assassination related material that has been overlooked within the catacombs of that labyrinth for the last 60 years. Just me, but once again the JFK Assassination Research Community has FAILED to focus its' attention on unearthing FACTS vs chasing media attention = $$$. 

[Royell Storing]

Hi Royell, I do not know if I can help you with that particular picture. I can do this: Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

In this Cabluck photograph we have two boys running on the sidewalk. The two boys from the North Arcade have left the Arcade and are running too.


In the next Cabluck photograph, the four boys are running together. Robert MacNeil has just left the Press Bus and is on the sidewalk near Ike Altgens, and he is running too.


In this Cabluck and Cancellare combination, it has the boys labelled.


Here is an uncropped version of the Cancellare photograph including Robert MacNeil this time.


This is Bond 6. Maybe this is the picture you were thinking of.

    Michael - Thanks but none of these is the photo I am looking for. Bond gets close to that same time frame and LOS, but still no cigar. The Photo I seek is highlighted in "The Killing Of A President" by Groden on pages 54-57. Personally, I believe that "Gordon Arnold Area" from the picket fence over to the short block wall is an area on the Knoll that we do Not know jack about. Darnell has some blurry frames from down inside that general area, but nothing anybody can hang their hat on as to DETAIL within this possible shooter space. This is the same area that Lee Bowers was eyeballing shortly before the JFK Motorcade went onto Houston and then quickly onto Elm. From his 2nd story railroad tower vantage point, Bowers was looking Straight Down both sides of the Picket Fence. That day, nobody had a better look at both sides of the Picket Fence Area before, during, and after the JFK Assassination than Lee Bowers. Nobody.   

[Zeon Mason]

@Michael Welch: Thank you for your input on Billy Lovelady in Weigman film and the Altgens 6 photo which do coincide.

But as Mr. Ford has already explained, the Hughes film had Lovelady right adjacent to the west wall and so it’s a question if Lovejady did actually move to the center handrail position during the Towner film and if that’s  the explanation for this swath of red seen thru the foliage in Towner film that’s too wide ti be just one person OR..

Are there TWO persons with reddish shirts and Oswald was the one in Hughes against the west wall while Lovelady was at the center hand rail ( middle ) of the steps but was obscured in Hughes film by the blue shirt man in the pedistal?

I think Alan and I arrived at this latter scenario because of the 4 anomalies in Altgens 6 photo and Weigman film:

1. The strange shadow on the right side of Lovelady’s body in Weigman film clip
2. The Cronkite version of Altgens 6 photo which shows what appears to be a forearm raised up with what looks like a bottle (darkhorizontal slash) that cuts across the white shirt part of Loveladys body.
3. The 2nd version of Altgens 6 photo which shows the firearm ( and bottle) have been basically erased by coloring over it with the shirt texture pattern of Loveladys shirt.
4. This right arm shirt sleeve of Loveladys has NO HAND at the end of it AND the end of the sleeve ( cuff) weirdly looks like it’s overlapping part of the face of the black man whom is supposed to be Carl Jones , ( big guy with cream colored long sleeve shirt ).

[Michael Welch]

    Michael - Thanks but none of these is the photo I am looking for. Bond gets close to that same time frame and LOS, but still no cigar. The Photo I seek is highlighted in "The Killing Of A President" by Groden on pages 54-57. Personally, I believe that "Gordon Arnold Area" from the picket fence over to the short block wall is an area on the Knoll that we do Not know jack about. Darnell has some blurry frames from down inside that general area, but nothing anybody can hang their hat on as to DETAIL within this possible shooter space. This is the same area that Lee Bowers was eyeballing shortly before the JFK Motorcade went onto Houston and then quickly onto Elm. From his 2nd story railroad tower vantage point, Bowers was looking Straight Down both sides of the Picket Fence. That day, nobody had a better look at both sides of the Picket Fence Area before, during, and after the JFK Assassination than Lee Bowers. Nobody.

Hi Royell, Yes, I agree with you again! And in this Gerda gif, it looks like Black Dog Man may be holding some sort of weapon. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

[Duncan MacRae]