Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2156 on: February 26, 2023, 11:57:24 PM »
Not Mrs. Dean. Probably the lower of the men with their hand over their eyes in Altgens.

Hmmm.... I think the blue belongs to Ms. Dean but what I have been seeing as Mr. Lovelady's head sticking out in Towner may in fact be the right elbow of the gentleman you refer to:



So-----------------where in the heck is Mr. Lovelady?

In a fraction of a second, Bell will be showing this:



And yet Towner will still be showing this:



Looks like I was right the first time: he's been blacked out of Towner, just as he's been partially blacked out of Wiegman



[Credit for Towner gif: Mr. Chris Davidson, who first spotted the problem WAY back...........]

Boy, they really HATED what was on the west side of that doorway!

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2157 on: February 27, 2023, 01:16:48 AM »
Well!

Mr. Carl Edward Jones is carrying something in his right hand in Couch:



Recall that Mr. Jones said he was sitting on the steps at the time of the assassination.

Now cf the flapping object in Towner and the upraised arm holding it (-------disregard red arrow please!---------):



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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2158 on: February 27, 2023, 09:40:07 AM »
Hmmm.... I think the blue belongs to Ms. Dean but what I have been seeing as Mr. Lovelady's head sticking out in Towner may in fact be the right elbow of the gentleman you refer to:



So-----------------where in the heck is Mr. Lovelady?

Looking again at Towner, I think the white of Mr. Otis Williams' ample upper frame and raised right arm is NOT the warmer tones we see just above Ms. Dean's behatted head. Those are from Mr. Lovelady after all, who is at this time two steps down from the landing:



Although Wiegman's early doorway frames will show Mr. Lovelady a step higher, it shows everyone else in the same position, and so allows us to make a handy figure-to-figure comparison:

-Mr. Roy Edward Lewis (purple arrow)
-Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald (partially obscured in this Towner frame by flapping object) (light green arrow)
-PrayerWOMAN (behind Mr. Oswald--not visible in the below Wiegman frame but evident in Towner) (olive arrow)
-Ms. Ruth Dean (metallic blue arrow)
-Mr. Otis Williams (blue arrow)
-Mr. Billy Lovelady (orange arrow)
-the person (=Mrs. Sarah Stanton IMO) shielding eyes with both hands (pink arrow)



Mr. Lovelady has been cast into partial (fake) shadow in BOTH Towner and Wiegman (they had to harmonize the sunlight conditions across the two films). The red arrow in Towner above marks where the artificial shadow was placed.

Thankfully, Bell, with all it shows of Mr. Lovelady, helps us see what was really there:



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2159 on: February 27, 2023, 07:20:12 PM »
If the red arrow in the gif is actually the lower west edge of the concrete structure, horizontally flipping a frame and aligning it, might help with the people location. Just a thought.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2160 on: February 27, 2023, 11:54:38 PM »
If the red arrow in the gif is actually the lower west edge of the concrete structure, horizontally flipping a frame and aligning it, might help with the people location. Just a thought.


Interesting, Mr. Davidson, thank you!

The simultaneity of Bell and Towner simply leaves us with no way to reconcile what each is showing------------------absent the postulate that Towner (like Wiegman) has been monkeyed with

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2161 on: February 28, 2023, 12:32:20 PM »
If the red arrow in the gif is actually the lower west edge of the concrete structure,

That white is too low to be the top of the concrete base, though it MIGHT be part of its edge:



However, looking at this gif, two things strike me:

1. Does the white edge marked by the green arrow (but seen so much better in the above gif) correspond to either the the light-blue or orange arrow-------------i.e. is it the right (east) edge of one of the two white columns over on the west side?



2. This landmark is surely a useful reference in plotting Mr. Bell's POV



The map suggests that it and its counterpart to the east are bracketing the doorway almost perfectly



In which case, the doorway behind the foliage goes substantially farther west than we've been giving it credit for.............

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2162 on: February 28, 2023, 01:06:20 PM »
How long can this go on?  There is an interesting correlation between many of those that believe in a conspiracy theory and some type of uncontrollable compulsion disorder.