Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #476 on: September 17, 2020, 02:18:56 AM »
How many of these "dozen potential witnesses" mentioned seeing Sarah Stanton (or anybody else by name) standing in that spot?

Come on John.

Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Sarah Stanton?
A: None
Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Oswald?
A: All of them

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #477 on: September 17, 2020, 02:32:42 AM »
LOL. You start with the unproven premise that it's Stanton and then use that assumption to argue that she wouldn't be drinking a cup of coffee.

Unless it's not Stanton.  Or coffee.  Or a cigarette for that matter.  Do you even know if Stanton smoked?
More misrepresentation.
I'm not starting with any unproven assumption. The part you leave out (as usual) is that I'm responding to and disagreeing with Zeon's assumption that Stanton (the 300lb fat lady) is drinking a cup of coffee.
I know you know this but you choose to misrepresent.

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #478 on: September 17, 2020, 02:39:07 AM »
Hang on.  The very same frame has who you claim is Gloria Calvery already on the steps telling everyone that she saw the president shot.  You can't have it both ways.
Even by your high standards of misrepresentation this stands out.
In the post you refer to I state that the President was not shot in front of the steps of the TSBD and that the people stood there only started to find out from returning employees (ie: Gloria Calvery).
What on earth do you mean I "can't have it both ways"? What do you mean by "the very same frame"?
What, exactly, are you talking about?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #479 on: September 17, 2020, 05:53:14 PM »
Even by your high standards of misrepresentation this stands out.
In the post you refer to I state that the President was not shot in front of the steps of the TSBD and that the people stood there only started to find out from returning employees (ie: Gloria Calvery).
What on earth do you mean I "can't have it both ways"? What do you mean by "the very same frame"?
What, exactly, are you talking about?

If you don't know or understand what John is talking about exactly, how can you call it a "misrepresentation"?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #480 on: September 17, 2020, 06:05:25 PM »
Come on John.

Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Sarah Stanton?
A: None
Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Oswald?
A: All of them

The TSBD employees were asked, March 1964, if they had seen Oswald when the shots were fired or when Kennedy was shot!

As is very often the case, the quality of the question determines the quality of the answer.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #481 on: September 17, 2020, 07:23:20 PM »
Come on John.

Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Sarah Stanton?
A: None
Q: How many TSBD employees were asked if they'd seen Oswald?
A: All of them

4 or 5 months after the fact, some of which conflicted with prior or later statements.  Carolyn Arnold's March 18 statement, for example, said only "I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at the time President Kennedy was shot".

As Martin astutely points out, we're not privy to what the question actually was.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #482 on: September 17, 2020, 07:28:42 PM »
Even by your high standards of misrepresentation this stands out.
In the post you refer to I state that the President was not shot in front of the steps of the TSBD and that the people stood there only started to find out from returning employees (ie: Gloria Calvery).
What on earth do you mean I "can't have it both ways"? What do you mean by "the very same frame"?
What, exactly, are you talking about?

The Darnell frame in which Tommy Graves argued to your satisfaction that Gloria Calvery was up on the steps telling everybody about the shooting.  This is the same moment in time that you are also arguing that "the people stood on the steps didn't know what was going on", in order to argue with Martin's postulate that the people on the steps may not realize who was around them because of the stress of the moment.