Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #364 on: August 16, 2020, 10:33:16 PM »
:D :D :D So you do agree that's Lovelady shown on the far right of the entranceway in the Hughes clip.
Lovelady then moves up to the top step in Altgens just seconds later.

If your understanding of angles went beyond Doyle levels, Mr O'Meara, you would understand that the Altgens photograph shows Mr Lovelady near the center railing.

Unfortunately, however, your level of understanding is weirdly coincident with the Doyle level of understanding, so you're just making a fool of yourself in exactly the same way Mr Doyle used to do before he was banned!  Thumb1:

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And remember, Stanton herself says that as soon as the motorcade passes the front of the building she can no longer see it.

As did Messrs Molina and (Otis) Williams. But you have already had this pointed out to you and------------in true Doyle style----------ignore what's inconvenient to the crazy Doyle claim that Prayer Man is an obese woman wearing a dark wig in a professional situation.

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We can deduce from Altgens that the only person in such a position must be stood in the corner to Lovelady's right.

Who's 'we' here, Mr O'Meara? You and Mr Doyle?

Look, Mr O'Meara, you played a good game initially, pretending to be interested in the whole Rowland-Williams-chicken thing. But once the word 'Stanton' passed your lips for the first time, you blew it--------------your sad obsession was revealed!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #365 on: August 17, 2020, 01:06:47 AM »
If your understanding of angles went beyond Doyle levels, Mr O'Meara, you would understand that the Altgens photograph shows Mr Lovelady near the center railing.

Unfortunately, however, your level of understanding is weirdly coincident with the Doyle level of understanding, so you're just making a fool of yourself in exactly the same way Mr Doyle used to do before he was banned!  Thumb1:

As did Messrs Molina and (Otis) Williams. But you have already had this pointed out to you and------------in true Doyle style----------ignore what's inconvenient to the crazy Doyle claim that Prayer Man is an obese woman wearing a dark wig in a professional situation.

Who's 'we' here, Mr O'Meara? You and Mr Doyle?

Look, Mr O'Meara, you played a good game initially, pretending to be interested in the whole Rowland-Williams-chicken thing. But once the word 'Stanton' passed your lips for the first time, you blew it--------------your sad obsession was revealed!

 :D

As soon as the word 'Stanton' passed my lips your sad obsession was revealed (in truth it's always been there)

I know exactly where Lovelady is stood in Altgens but you seem to be unaware Altgens shows Molina looking at the Presidential limo and the only reason Williams can't see it is because he's looking the other way! Are you familiar with the photo in question?
Neither Williams nor Molina state they can't see the motorcade once it passes the front entrance, this is classic Ford fantasia.

Of the people stood on the top step only Stanton states she can't see the limo once it passes the front of the TSBD.

When Lovelady refers to Stanton he is referring to the object of your obsession, the blurry figure stood near the west corner
Who else could he be referring to Alan? Answer this question. 8)

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #366 on: August 17, 2020, 10:40:52 AM »
Neither Williams nor Molina state they can't see the motorcade once it passes the front entrance, this is classic Ford fantasia.

:D :D :D

More Doyle-style fabrication from the new Mr Doyle!

---------"Just after his car disappeared from my view I heard three shots." (Mr Joe Molina, 3/25/64)

---------"Just after the Presidential car passed the building and went out of sight over the Elm St embankment I heard three loud blasts." (Mr Otis Williams, 3/19/64)

How many more lies is the new Mr Doyle willing to tell in his Doyle-grade crazy effort to sell Prayer Man as an obese woman wearing a dark wig and smoking a cigarette?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #367 on: August 17, 2020, 07:44:42 PM »
:D :D :D

More Doyle-style fabrication from the new Mr Doyle!

---------"Just after his car disappeared from my view I heard three shots." (Mr Joe Molina, 3/25/64)

---------"Just after the Presidential car passed the building and went out of sight over the Elm St embankment I heard three loud blasts." (Mr Otis Williams, 3/19/64)

How many more lies is the new Mr Doyle willing to tell in his Doyle-grade crazy effort to sell Prayer Man as an obese woman wearing a dark wig and smoking a cigarette?

Are you for real?
Neither of these is a statement saying they lost sight of the Presidential limo as soon as it passed the front entrance. William's statement is specifically saying he watched it until it went out of sight over the Elm St embankment! What are you thinking?

Look at the Altgens pic. Use your eyes. Both Molina and Williams can be clearly seen, meaning they have a view of the limo after it has passed the front entrance.
Are you that much of a PM zealot you can't see the obvious?

When Lovelady refers to Stanton he is referring to the object of your obsession, the blurry figure stood near the west corner
Who else could he be referring to Alan? For the third time, answer this question.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #368 on: August 17, 2020, 08:14:21 PM »
Are you for real?

Asks the new Mr Doyle, whose gaslighting nonsense is exactly the same as the old Mr Doyle's!  :D

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Neither of these is a statement saying they lost sight of the Presidential limo as soon as it passed the front entrance. William's statement is specifically saying he watched it until it went out of sight over the Elm St embankment!

As usual, the new Mr Doyle leaves out the bit he doesn't like: "I heard three loud blasts"  :D

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Look at the Altgens pic. Use your eyes. Both Molina and Williams can be clearly seen, meaning they have a view of the limo after it has passed the front entrance.

Again, the new Mr Doyle conveniently leaves out the three blasts each man says he heard!

And the new Mr Doyle acts like the Altgens photograph was taken from JFK's limousine!  :D

Now! Ms Stanton: "I heard three shots after the President's car passed the front of the building but I could not see the President's car at that time ."

Perhaps the new Mr Doyle can show us where Ms Stanton says why she could not see the President's car while hearing the three shots? As he ponders this question, the new Mr Doyle might find it helpful to look again at the Altgens photograph.

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When Lovelady refers to Stanton he is referring to the object of your obsession, the blurry figure stood near the west corner
Who else could he be referring to Alan?

He could be referring to the person standing next to him in Altgens:



Mr Dom Bonafede, New York Herald Tribune quoting Mr Lovelady on the Altgens photograph, 24 May 1964:

'Several people saw me. That lady shading her eyes works here on the second floor.'"

Which lady shielding her eyes in the Altgens photograph does the new Mr Doyle think Mr Lovelady is pointing out to Mr Bonafede when he says this?



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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #369 on: August 17, 2020, 09:33:39 PM »


He could be referring to the person standing next to him in Altgens:





So you're identifying Sarah Stanton as THE MAN IN A WHITE SHIRT SHIELDING HIS EYES!!!
 :D :D :D
Utter quality.

You've obviously fallen off the edge and, unlike the old Mr Doyle, I won't be following you down whatever rabbit-hole your currently inhabiting.
#StantonisMolina
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #370 on: August 17, 2020, 10:45:44 PM »
So you're identifying Sarah Stanton as THE MAN IN A WHITE SHIRT SHIELDING HIS EYES!!!
 :D :D :D
Utter quality.

You've obviously fallen off the edge and, unlike the old Mr Doyle, I won't be following you down whatever rabbit-hole your currently inhabiting.
#StantonisMolina
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Curiously, the new Mr Doyle is every bit as illogical and ill-informed as the old Mr Doyle!

Mr Lovelady is showing Mr Bonafede in the Altgens photograph a lady shielding her eyes, and stating that she works on the second floor. So the new Mr Doyle should have no trouble finding this lady-from-the-second-floor-shielding-her-eyes in said Altgens photograph. After all, Mr Lovelady seems to have no trouble in doing so!

Embarrassed at not yet being able to find this lady in Altgens, the new Mr Doyle tells us with the old Doyle-esque certainty that the person shielding their eyes (marked by the green arrow) is a "MAN IN A WHITE SHIRT":



How does the new Mr Doyle know this? Answer: He doesn't, he's just offering another Doyle-style 'Because I Say So!' claim...

Now! Mr Bill Shelley stated clearly that he is standing next to Mr Lovelady but is not visible in the Altgens photograph:



This means that Mr Shelley must be just to Mr Lovelady's west.

From the elimination of Mr Shelley as one of the white men seen in Altgens we can conclude that the two white gentlemen (apart from Mr Lovelady) Altgens does show in the doorway are Mr Joe Molina (red arrow) and Mr Otis Williams (blue arrow)----------------------



This further means that the person marked with green arrow-----------the person the new Mr Doyle assures us is a "MAN IN A WHITE SHIRT"-----------must in fact be a woman. If she is the woman from the second floor whom Mr Lovelady is recognizing, then she must be either Ms Pauline Sanders or Ms Sarah Stanton. Given his repeated recollection of Ms Stanton's presence in statements and testimony, she is by far the likelier candidate.

This would solve the new Mr Doyle's contrived little problem of Mr Lovelady's statement that Mr Shelley and Ms Stanton were next to him.

And it would leave the new Mr Doyle back at square one-------------as excruciatingly unable as everyone else on Team Keep LHO Away From Them Steps to find a credible non-Oswaldian candidate for Prayer Man.  :D

If the new Mr Doyle disagrees with the above analysis, he is free to tell us which lady from the second floor shielding her eyes is Mr Lovelady pointing out to Mr BonafedeThumb1:
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